We'll see. I'll note that the peg legs are obviously less ridiculous than they sound.
I haven't seen a dreg trip once in the game after all.
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The House of Twilight [Destiny Nation Builder Quest]
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We'll see. I'll note that the peg legs are obviously less ridiculous than they sound.
I haven't seen a dreg trip once in the game after all.
Professor Vesca
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What are ascetics anyway?
Check the front page, right under the skiffs.
They're a ship that the Judicators were using when they joined.
Tabi
Expert Jissou Abuser
Added it in this morning. No losses aside from initial ambushes.
Regarding the Command Center, it was not built due to Vex structures being underground.
...It was merely an idea for it. It shouldn't prevent it from being built aboveground.
I guess we cannot try any of these ideas out anymore since in eventuality they don't work our build order is totally discarded instead. It is extremely frustrating. At least we should not have lost the resources then. Or the action.
And I am not seeing the refinery addition anywhere on the last update. Are you sure you added such in, Tabi?
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Timor not even being capable of producing any helium filaments is a slap to the face. We fought hard for that place, we lost countless troops on it, and numerous actions. We developed tech specifically to help out with that situation for Traveler's sake.
And we got nothing out of it, apart from maybe possibility of turning it into one of our bases.
Hey @Tabi , would you say it would be fair to let us build C&C center on the refinery this next turn without costing an action, considering we lost action and resources for nothing over at mars?
And we got nothing out of it, apart from maybe possibility of turning it into one of our bases.
Hey @Tabi , would you say it would be fair to let us build C&C center on the refinery this next turn without costing an action, considering we lost action and resources for nothing over at mars?
Tabi
Expert Jissou Abuser
-slaps forehead-
Dammit, knew I was missing something.
In regards to the C&C, because it wasn't built, the resources for it was never used up. Just build it on the active Vex tech next turn.
Or consescrate the valley the Traveler used to terraform Mars...
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OK, what's happening?
wasn't it said that it WILL produce Filament but not at max capacity? and current damaged production is:
I took off C&C cost and Servitors from calculations and @Tabi? does Timor Refinery produces given numbers while it's damaged (aka at peak it produces more than 50k)?
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Thanks for explanation
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OK, what's happening?
wasn't it said that it WILL produce Filament but not at max capacity? and current damaged production is:
I took off C&C cost and Servitors from calculations and @Tabi? does Timor Refinery produces given numbers while it's damaged (aka at peak it produces more than 50k)?
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Thanks for explanation
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I was under the impression that Helium-3 units are the stuff used to MAKE helium filaments? In that case that refinery is useless, and it's upgrade is also useless, considering our generators already produce as much as can be processed in a turn.
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It's OK, everyone forgets something, no problem.
on other hand: Timor produces pure Helium-3 or Helium-3 Filament? And is it possible to build another Recycling Module?
@APL 123AZ You would be better off going for spartan four augmentations. Those are less costly and can be used on more people. You should also get the human experts in biology and cybernetics involved with that.
I'm thinking the fact that we're growing clones means we can actually go with the two's process instead. If the first generation gets crippled then all the Splicers would need to do is make a note of what went wrong and not to grow them that way again.
As for experts in Biology and Cybernetics, do we have those? Couldn't hurt to add them I suppose.
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On second thought, I cant seem to think up a way to write them in.
I've also adjusted the plan a bit to reflect our twelve action limit and the resource boost that is Timor.
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Tabi
Expert Jissou Abuser
Refines Helium-3 in vast quantities.
Presumably, you can research for a way to use and create filaments in vast quantities.
The Refinery processes (at peak capacity) a total of 500k Units per turn.
Sorry but I'm not following this.
Is it a larger version of the Helium production sets we've been making or not?
Dark Abstraction
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Out current set-up is 10 Helium-3 producers (they collect Helium-3 to put into batteries), and one Helium Filament manufacturer (they put the Helium-3 into batteries).
The Timor refinery is one massive Helium-3 producer. It collects lts of Helium-3 to put into batteries. To make Helium Filaments, we need to make manufacturers equal to its production.
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Ah, okay then. Thanks for clearing that up.
I'll edit my plan accordingly.
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Alright latest version of the plan:
APLan:
[x] Reef: Ask for a volunteer to be sent to the Reef, preferably a Captain. Then send them on their way. (Free Action)
[x] Capricorn: The Archon is to place the Vilesworn sword back into the vault with the shard. (Free Action)
[x] Make combat duty volunteer only for any member of Twilights Human population. Citing concerns for the continuation of the species as the reason. (Free Action)
[x] Upgrade: Neosteel (Mechs & Vehicles)(160,000 Spinmetal + 8,000 Relic Iron + 160,000 Shadow Bloom + 2,400,000 Glimmer) (4 Actions)
[X] Stop the spreading of the malicious code. All shanks are to be rounded up for examination, infected units being kept separate from the remaining 22% of course. The Archon himself is to lead the Eliksni and Human Engineers in studying the code, and depending on their finds, scrap the infected units. (+whatever salvage can be saved from the destroyed Shanks) (1 Action)
[x] Unlock Capricorn Station's Cybernetics Program for use in augmenting humans within Twilight. (3 Actions + 3d100, 3x 80 to Succeed)
[x] Research: Parasite Skiff. Skiffs currently act as both troop transport and fighter craft for every house. By removing the former and instead adding parasite bays for the new drone fighters, theoretically a skiff could effectively swarm its opponents. (Allows a skiff to carry 6 Drone Fighters into battle with it. These Drones prioritize the Skiffs targets. Removes its ability to carry troops.) (Costs: 250 Spinmetal, 75 Helium, 125 Glimmer, 1 Mod slot, and 1 turn) (1 Action)
[X] Research: Cybersecurity. Get measures set in place to avoid another incident of infected code all over, making sure that any further infections can be swiftly cut off from the rest of the networks and made easier to find and destroy in the future. (1 Action)
[x] Mars: Contact the mysterious Fallen at Olympus. Introductions and inquiry's are to be made, what do they know of the signal that led us to Mars? (1 Action)
[x] Timor: [x] Build 5 Helium Generators to be paired with the facility. (costs 150000 Spinmetal, 30000 Helium, 500000 Glimmer) (+25000 Helium Filament production) (1 Actions)
[x] Capricorn: The Archon is to place the Vilesworn sword back into the vault with the shard. (Free Action)
[x] Make combat duty volunteer only for any member of Twilights Human population. Citing concerns for the continuation of the species as the reason. (Free Action)
[x] Upgrade: Neosteel (Mechs & Vehicles)(160,000 Spinmetal + 8,000 Relic Iron + 160,000 Shadow Bloom + 2,400,000 Glimmer) (4 Actions)
[X] Stop the spreading of the malicious code. All shanks are to be rounded up for examination, infected units being kept separate from the remaining 22% of course. The Archon himself is to lead the Eliksni and Human Engineers in studying the code, and depending on their finds, scrap the infected units. (+whatever salvage can be saved from the destroyed Shanks) (1 Action)
[x] Unlock Capricorn Station's Cybernetics Program for use in augmenting humans within Twilight. (3 Actions + 3d100, 3x 80 to Succeed)
[x] Research: Parasite Skiff. Skiffs currently act as both troop transport and fighter craft for every house. By removing the former and instead adding parasite bays for the new drone fighters, theoretically a skiff could effectively swarm its opponents. (Allows a skiff to carry 6 Drone Fighters into battle with it. These Drones prioritize the Skiffs targets. Removes its ability to carry troops.) (Costs: 250 Spinmetal, 75 Helium, 125 Glimmer, 1 Mod slot, and 1 turn) (1 Action)
[X] Research: Cybersecurity. Get measures set in place to avoid another incident of infected code all over, making sure that any further infections can be swiftly cut off from the rest of the networks and made easier to find and destroy in the future. (1 Action)
[x] Mars: Contact the mysterious Fallen at Olympus. Introductions and inquiry's are to be made, what do they know of the signal that led us to Mars? (1 Action)
[x] Timor: [x] Build 5 Helium Generators to be paired with the facility. (costs 150000 Spinmetal, 30000 Helium, 500000 Glimmer) (+25000 Helium Filament production) (1 Actions)
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Dark Abstraction
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We'll need 1000 generators to match the Timor facility's [peak operation] Helium-3 output. Just as an FYI.
So I guess we won't need to do anything about Helium-3 Extractors for awhile
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Not yet. The Titan orders need to be established and city defenses completed before it takes place at least.
Here is my revised plan in turn.
[X] Plan Heuristic 2.0
[X] Allow humans to use the Iron Wombs to boost their population (4 Actions)(+250% to Human Population Every 12 Turns)
[X] Reassure the humans who wish to fight that unlocking the secrets of cybernetic augmentation program is next on the list of research once immediately pressing matters have been handled. In the meantime, they are free to hone their skills in practice bouts with Eliksni if they wish. (Free Action)
[X] Send out call to other lesser houses or bands of Eliksni to join House of Twilight (1 Action)
Mars:
[X] Get the team of Iron Guards back to Olympus Mons proper and have them seek out signs of the allegiance of the Eliksni there. If one of the larger houses (Winter, Wolves, Devils) is present, we will want to know about it. If the arrivals are only a smaller house or wandering group, open communications with them (Free Action)
Capricorn:
[X] Stop the spreading of the malicious code. Ask human techies for help and quarantine all affected units until they have been purged of the influence (1 Action)
[X] Research: Parasite Skiff. Skiffs currently act as both troop transport and fighter craft for every house. By removing the former and instead adding parasite bays for the new drone fighters, theoretically a skiff could effectively swarm its opponents. (1 Action)
[X] Research: Cybersecurity. Get measures set in place to avoid another incident of infected code all over, making sure that any further infections can be swiftly cut off from the rest of the networks and made easier to find and destroy in the future. (1 Action)
[X] Research: Space station shielding. Something to prevent hostile ships from just blowing Twilight installations to hell with impunity and to block any unwanted stealthy arrivals (1 Action)
Proteus:
[X] Build 100 Robot Assembly Plants. Do not staff with workers yet (250000 Spinmetal + 100000 Glimmer)(1 Action)
Timor:
[X] Build C&C Complex and 5 Helium Filament Generators. Have the Filament Generators to process as much of the refinery's output into Helium Filaments each turn as they are able. (250000 Spinmetal, 30000 Helium Filament, 501000 Glimmer, 5 High Servitor)(2 Actions)
ONLY APPLY IF THE AWOKEN COLONY SHIP C&C CENTER IS UNDER OUR CONTROL, THUS GRANTING US EXTRA ACTION:
ONLY APPLY IN CASE THE WRITEUP IS CORRECT AND IT DOES NOT ACTUALLY COST US ACTIONS:
[X] Reassure the humans who wish to fight that unlocking the secrets of cybernetic augmentation program is next on the list of research once immediately pressing matters have been handled. In the meantime, they are free to hone their skills in practice bouts with Eliksni if they wish. (Free Action)
[X] Send out call to other lesser houses or bands of Eliksni to join House of Twilight (1 Action)
Mars:
[X] Get the team of Iron Guards back to Olympus Mons proper and have them seek out signs of the allegiance of the Eliksni there. If one of the larger houses (Winter, Wolves, Devils) is present, we will want to know about it. If the arrivals are only a smaller house or wandering group, open communications with them (Free Action)
Capricorn:
[X] Stop the spreading of the malicious code. Ask human techies for help and quarantine all affected units until they have been purged of the influence (1 Action)
[X] Research: Parasite Skiff. Skiffs currently act as both troop transport and fighter craft for every house. By removing the former and instead adding parasite bays for the new drone fighters, theoretically a skiff could effectively swarm its opponents. (1 Action)
[X] Research: Cybersecurity. Get measures set in place to avoid another incident of infected code all over, making sure that any further infections can be swiftly cut off from the rest of the networks and made easier to find and destroy in the future. (1 Action)
[X] Research: Space station shielding. Something to prevent hostile ships from just blowing Twilight installations to hell with impunity and to block any unwanted stealthy arrivals (1 Action)
Proteus:
[X] Build 100 Robot Assembly Plants. Do not staff with workers yet (250000 Spinmetal + 100000 Glimmer)(1 Action)
Timor:
[X] Build C&C Complex and 5 Helium Filament Generators. Have the Filament Generators to process as much of the refinery's output into Helium Filaments each turn as they are able. (250000 Spinmetal, 30000 Helium Filament, 501000 Glimmer, 5 High Servitor)(2 Actions)
ONLY APPLY IF THE AWOKEN COLONY SHIP C&C CENTER IS UNDER OUR CONTROL, THUS GRANTING US EXTRA ACTION:
Replace Space Station Shielding and Parasite Skiff research projects with:
[x] Unlock Capricorn Station's Cybernetics Program for use in augmenting humans within Twilight. (3 Actions + 3d100, 3x 80 to Succeed)
[x] Unlock Capricorn Station's Cybernetics Program for use in augmenting humans within Twilight. (3 Actions + 3d100, 3x 80 to Succeed)
ONLY APPLY IN CASE THE WRITEUP IS CORRECT AND IT DOES NOT ACTUALLY COST US ACTIONS:
[X] Repair Refinery (1,000,000 Spinmetal + 15,000,000 Glimmer + 3 Turns)
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Ah damn. I once saw a timeline that had it happening like 600 years before canon.
But I don't know how that lines up now.
I'm not certain why they'd need to be watched.
Mmm, I don't know... WHY indeed would a fanatic machine cult who see replacing flesh with metal and not caring much about potential lethality of it's experiments need to be watched in society that likely doesn't like mad scientists cutting them open with glee? Truly, there seems to be no reason
And besides, the station's own research program would likely be vastly superior to ours, but it'd just take a while to unlock.I will note that such an ambitious plan to upgrade the humans will take more than one action and may require humans who know more about their biology than aliens who are many times more experienced with their own species.
Tabi
Expert Jissou Abuser
Definitely. Also are you allowing Splicers to experiment with humans or not? If so, include it in the plan.