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Terminus Quest: A CKII Mass Effect Quest
- Location
- california
[X] Accept her offer. Whether or not you can trust what she says, she's left you a lot of room. If you can reduce the number of potential combatants, and perhaps even avoid a fight entirely, you will.
DevilsAdvocate
Always follow the golden rule.
[X] Accept her offer. Whether or not you can trust what she says, she's left you a lot of room. If you can reduce the number of potential combatants, and perhaps even avoid a fight entirely, you will.
- Location
- Sydney
[X] Accept her offer. Whether or not you can trust what she says, she's left you a lot of room. If you can reduce the number of potential combatants, and perhaps even avoid a fight entirely, you will.
Doomed Wombat
Let's go Darling!
- Location
- Dancing on wires!
Did we at least get the Prothean artefacts?
[X] Accept her offer. Whether or not you can trust what she says, she's left you a lot of room. If you can reduce the number of potential combatants, and perhaps even avoid a fight entirely, you will.
[X] Accept her offer. Whether or not you can trust what she says, she's left you a lot of room. If you can reduce the number of potential combatants, and perhaps even avoid a fight entirely, you will.
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- Location
- Aotearoa
[X] Accept her offer. Whether or not you can trust what she says, she's left you a lot of room. If you can reduce the number of potential combatants, and perhaps even avoid a fight entirely, you will.
- Location
- United States of America
[X] Accept her offer. Whether or not you can trust what she says, she's left you a lot of room. If you can reduce the number of potential combatants, and perhaps even avoid a fight entirely, you will.
[X] Refuse her offer. You are not acceding to restrictions on your actions when going into your army's first ground invasion. She can surrender in person to the soldiers who find her, just like everybody else.
She does not have any real authority, and after dealing with Dalatrass, Mira have no reason to trust anything that comes from Lystheni. Too many betryals, too much bad will. To much risk of it backfiring and causing yet more problems in future.
Lystheni, as far as we could see proved themselves to be backstabbing, amoral maniacs. No way of knowing how much it was Dalatrass, and how much her people.
Not accepting will not change too much. Let's wipe the political slate clean.
She does not have any real authority, and after dealing with Dalatrass, Mira have no reason to trust anything that comes from Lystheni. Too many betryals, too much bad will. To much risk of it backfiring and causing yet more problems in future.
Lystheni, as far as we could see proved themselves to be backstabbing, amoral maniacs. No way of knowing how much it was Dalatrass, and how much her people.
Not accepting will not change too much. Let's wipe the political slate clean.
Well...
You see, accepting her surrender allows us to do less work, for:
a) Less combatants to be neutralized
b) Less information to be recovered from offices shot to hell
c) Easier time reestablishing order
We find out we don't like her after occupying all the Lystheni colonies? We take everything she gives and turn her into a martyr for our cause.
- Location
- france
[X] Accept her offer. Whether or not you can trust what she says, she's left you a lot of room. If you can reduce the number of potential combatants, and perhaps even avoid a fight entirely, you will.
Oh certainly; that bit's the easy part. That's just a twin.
We do it commercially today, for too rich people who want duplicates of their dead pets; Barbara Streisand did so for her dead dogs.
50k for those with the money.
Growing adult clones that match the phenotypic age of their gene donors, and with the memory/knowledgebase to impersonate them?
Different matter.
I would flatout argue that it's impossible; the dalatrass displayed too much autonomy in dealmaking to be a body double.
That would both go against everything we know of the lystheni government's controlfreak tendencies, and would involve letting someone with no diplomatic expertise making binding negotiations for your nation.
Even an ambassador would communicate with their home government, and they're trained for negotiation. A body double? Not a chance.
Note that this is what we know about salarian biology:
So there are probably a fair number of females among the lystheni.
I just assume the current dalatrass is there for a large proportion of births, which gives her undue influence on the newborn and the young.
And I won't be surprised if she preferentially expends the progeny of other females on risky tasks.
Everything you said.
Except that I wouldn't go as far as capital punishment; both for ethical reasons and pragmatic ones. For one thing, horrible as it is, they don't seem to have broken any lystheni laws. And who knows what the state of international law is.
Probably less bother to simply move them off-planet to Virmire and stick them in prison for the rest of their natural lifespan.
They'll die sooner than the batarian PM we overthrew, and he's been in prison for 17 years so far.
And our primary leverage being what kind of incarceration you get, with a choice of facilities from a concrete hole in the ground under a mountain, to house arrest in an island villa with an ankle bracelet.
Depending on how cooperative you are.
Yup. I thought we were dealing with a mixture of naivete, ambition and ignorance. Not Mengele shit.
Not that the Soviets and the US don't both have a history of illegal, unethical human experimentation.
Still heinous, especially on the kind of scale that seems to be in play here.
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Doomed Wombat
Let's go Darling!
- Location
- Dancing on wires!
Sigh...I just hope they didn't delete too much of it to spite us.
And no this is not me being a ********
In my view the only thing worse than letting these kind of experiments happen in the first place is destroying the results, it means all the pain those people went through goes completely to waste.
I just hope we can get enough doctors down there to mitigate the side effects of whatever else they did.
And get those ****ing artefacts.
[X] Accept her offer.
- Location
- Germany
[X] Accept her offer. Whether or not you can trust what she says, she's left you a lot of room. If you can reduce the number of potential combatants, and perhaps even avoid a fight entirely, you will.
Like has been pointed out, getting an ally on the inside who might have access to the rumors will help immensely.
As well as the data backups that undoubtedly exist somewhere.
And be able to point us at who we have to interrogate.
Especially important if we want to scupper any contingency plans the dalatrass had cooking; I'm beginning to worry about what the fuck she thought she was doing.
We'll see I guess.
It's gonna get expensive as shit.
The artifacts took five to ten years to move.
They didn't abscond with them in hours.
- Location
- Germany
- Pronouns
- He/Him
[X] Accept her offer. Whether or not you can trust what she says, she's left you a lot of room. If you can reduce the number of potential combatants, and perhaps even avoid a fight entirely, you will.
// Getting her on board might save us the hassle of occupation. So not interested in space!middleeast.
// Getting her on board might save us the hassle of occupation. So not interested in space!middleeast.
Doomed Wombat
Let's go Darling!
- Location
- Dancing on wires!
Well I'm voting accept no worries on that front.
Also my bet is zombies, but I wouldn't say no to Kingsmen style madness inducement.
Isn't it always? Though if it heads off problems, helps us get their loyalty and lets us be moral in the process then I say why not
Really? Huh. Always assumed they'd be quite small...mmm I always assumed it be small stuff and it took so long for them to find em cause they were big ruins...though what on earth requires being bombarded with nuclear energies to activate I dunno.
- Location
- Germany
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Becoming an ascended energy being. The ancestor of the current dalatrass had a vision, and the artifacts clearly show1 that something like that must be possible.
1Take your favorite brand of 'proofing' techniques encountered in real life.
10ebbor10
DON'T PANIC
- Location
- Present
IRL, it has been found that the same people willing to do mass unethical experiments are also completely unsuited to do science. The results are basically worthless, as the goal of the experiments is not to find out the truth, but to confirm the strong ideology that motivates and justifies the experiments.
[X] Accept her offer. Whether or not you can trust what she says, she's left you a lot of room. If you can reduce the number of potential combatants, and perhaps even avoid a fight entirely, you will.
Doesn't matter real or fake. If real, we got an intel source to squeeze. If fake, we save work smashing only half the planet and smash the other half later. If anything its a smaller gamble than accepting the parley.
Doesn't matter real or fake. If real, we got an intel source to squeeze. If fake, we save work smashing only half the planet and smash the other half later. If anything its a smaller gamble than accepting the parley.
kelgar04
Knight Watcher
- Location
- Here and no were
[X] Accept her offer. Whether or not you can trust what she says, she's left you a lot of room. If you can reduce the number of potential combatants, and perhaps even avoid a fight entirely, you will.
I say this because we know Jack about them and she has intel we need and more importantly it doesn't involve rocking the area she is in which will result in civilian casualties
I say this because we know Jack about them and she has intel we need and more importantly it doesn't involve rocking the area she is in which will result in civilian casualties
Darrenb209
"Who are you, who do not know your history?"
- Location
- Scotland
[X] Accept her offer. Whether or not you can trust what she says, she's left you a lot of room. If you can reduce the number of potential combatants, and perhaps even avoid a fight entirely, you will.
We've proved our point so to speak. Crushed their navy.
But, they're on their final chance. Pull any more shit and it's over. Orbital bombardment for everybody.
We've proved our point so to speak. Crushed their navy.
But, they're on their final chance. Pull any more shit and it's over. Orbital bombardment for everybody.