Hyp3rB14d3
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Squad 4 is medics.
Strawberry Theory (Bleach Quest)
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BlackHadou
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I don't really care for the canon roles of the squads.
Rukia's Squad is in charge of maintaining spiritual normalcy in Japan, which has their focus placed on the spiritual hotspots of Japan. No, its not canon, but its their job here. They do different tasks in other countries, but in Japan they handle spiritual hotspots.
All squads kill hollows. That's a duty that's in addition to their other jobs. All Shinigami have a monthly quota of human world tasks that are assigned and must be completed monthly. The only ones who don't receive the Quota's are squad leaders and anyone in Division 1, who are either too powerful to safely appear in the human world and fight regular Hollows or deal directly with the Fourth Hell (Squad 1's job).
Background, there are 7 main Soul Societies and several other satellite societies. Seireitai doesn't handle just Japan, but the nearby Asian countries including China. Japan, despite being its main influence, is actually on the borders of its sphere of responsibility. The 7 Soul Societies are generally based around the locations influenced by the seven hells. Japan and the nearby nations are subject to Hell 4, Yomi.
Yes, I took to canon with a hacksaw and a axe.
Hell 7, Hueco Mundo, is the problem of the American Soul Society. Tartarus, Hell 2, is Britain and Europe's problem. Naraka, Hell 1, is the problem of the Indian region, etc, etc. Overlap is uncommon, as Hollows from different regions would rather eat each other.
Baroque
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Though I prefer my earlier descriptor of 'playing bat-to-the-kneecaps with canon', it's good to have something QM-sourced to quote at people who wonder why canon's been welded together funny.
Got names and regions for Hells 3, 5, and 6 yet?
Beyond that, have an Insightful for the intriguing look under the hood!
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Seems like an improvement.
BlackHadou
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Not familiar enough with Russian to give hell 6 a name. Hell 3 is called Hell, and it's the Middle East.Though I prefer my earlier descriptor of 'playing bat-to-the-kneecaps with canon', it's good to have something QM-sourced to quote at people who wonder why canon's been welded together funny.
Got names and regions for Hells 3, 5, and 6 yet?
Beyond that, have an Insightful for the intriguing look under the hood!
BlackHadou
Bunny-Sensei
... Turns out you have a lot of time to think at memorials...
Needed to keep my brain off the depressing shit. It worked, for a little while...
BlackHadou
Bunny-Sensei
Some further musings. Most of these are just musings, thus may or may not be canon.
Squad 11: Kenpachi is the Captain in name only. All the Captain work that a Captain is supposed to do actually goes to Yachiru. In fact, Kenpachi's status as a Shinigami is in name only, as his unrestrained Reiatsu puts him dangerously close to the borderline that Genryuusei and the other Division 1's generally crossed years ago. In practice, he's a Division 1 squad member who needed to be tied down in bureaucratic tape, so they left him at the head of squad 11.
Squad 4 is the healing and relief squad, as per canon. They are also disaster relief, and work together with the human governments the most of all the squads when a large number of humans die (to use a morbid example, the Fukushima meltdown, Indonesia tsunami, 9/11, etc). They also tend to work with the other Soul Societies the most. As Zanpakuto who are unsuited to fighting are common for them, they have a reduced monthly quota, but they often have squad related duties to attend to. Generally every hospital on the planet has at least one of them stationed there just in case.
Squad 1, as mentioned, is a squad that deals with the local Hell. It is serviced by ex-Captain's and Lieutenants of the other squads. Rarely does a squads Captain change divisions, though in one specific case it happened due to a shortage (Division 13 Squad Leader used to be Division 1's Lieutenant, thus the overall power of the division is currently a crapton higher then it normally would be. Correcting the situation hasn't been done due to said Shinigami's sickness). It is the squad that monitors the hells directly, enters the hells to put down high level Hollow's who simply won't fucking die, and handles Arrancar when they appear. Due to the very unique nature of Division 1, they never recruit out of the academy. Being asked to serve in Division 1 is amongst the highest honours of all, and all current Captains are considered honourary members by default. The average squad fields a total of roughly 500, give or take, Shinigami. Division 1 rarely has more then about 60 at once. They are otherwise subject to the same Real World entry standards as Captains, and outside of special conditions, have their Zanpakuto's sealed down to five titles when they leave, depriving them of the level of power most Shinigami would call their Bankai.
Arrancar are Hollows who succeeded in doing two things; they succeeded in pulling off their mask, permanently depowering them, and then proceeded to successfully kill and eat a Shinigami. Other means of creation are unknown. They are unbelievably rare, and were first discovered by accident by a European Shinigami so long ago Europe wasn't even called Europe. They are considered "Kill Now" threats, and depending on the power level, Captain's are sent to the area to immediately dispose of them.
The Vizard are simply unheard of in setting, as no Shinigami is willing to destroy their own power then eat a Hollow to find out if the reverse of the Arrancar process works as well.
Squad 11: Kenpachi is the Captain in name only. All the Captain work that a Captain is supposed to do actually goes to Yachiru. In fact, Kenpachi's status as a Shinigami is in name only, as his unrestrained Reiatsu puts him dangerously close to the borderline that Genryuusei and the other Division 1's generally crossed years ago. In practice, he's a Division 1 squad member who needed to be tied down in bureaucratic tape, so they left him at the head of squad 11.
Squad 4 is the healing and relief squad, as per canon. They are also disaster relief, and work together with the human governments the most of all the squads when a large number of humans die (to use a morbid example, the Fukushima meltdown, Indonesia tsunami, 9/11, etc). They also tend to work with the other Soul Societies the most. As Zanpakuto who are unsuited to fighting are common for them, they have a reduced monthly quota, but they often have squad related duties to attend to. Generally every hospital on the planet has at least one of them stationed there just in case.
Squad 1, as mentioned, is a squad that deals with the local Hell. It is serviced by ex-Captain's and Lieutenants of the other squads. Rarely does a squads Captain change divisions, though in one specific case it happened due to a shortage (Division 13 Squad Leader used to be Division 1's Lieutenant, thus the overall power of the division is currently a crapton higher then it normally would be. Correcting the situation hasn't been done due to said Shinigami's sickness). It is the squad that monitors the hells directly, enters the hells to put down high level Hollow's who simply won't fucking die, and handles Arrancar when they appear. Due to the very unique nature of Division 1, they never recruit out of the academy. Being asked to serve in Division 1 is amongst the highest honours of all, and all current Captains are considered honourary members by default. The average squad fields a total of roughly 500, give or take, Shinigami. Division 1 rarely has more then about 60 at once. They are otherwise subject to the same Real World entry standards as Captains, and outside of special conditions, have their Zanpakuto's sealed down to five titles when they leave, depriving them of the level of power most Shinigami would call their Bankai.
Arrancar are Hollows who succeeded in doing two things; they succeeded in pulling off their mask, permanently depowering them, and then proceeded to successfully kill and eat a Shinigami. Other means of creation are unknown. They are unbelievably rare, and were first discovered by accident by a European Shinigami so long ago Europe wasn't even called Europe. They are considered "Kill Now" threats, and depending on the power level, Captain's are sent to the area to immediately dispose of them.
The Vizard are simply unheard of in setting, as no Shinigami is willing to destroy their own power then eat a Hollow to find out if the reverse of the Arrancar process works as well.
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It amuses me how you give Kenpachi's skills absolutely no credit.
Another thing thats weird now I stop and think about is the Squad 1 lieutenant. We find out he's meant to have a Bankai (and hence qualifies for a captain seat) in the quincy invasion bit but he gets punked by Ichigo who doesn't even need his zanpakto
Another thing thats weird now I stop and think about is the Squad 1 lieutenant. We find out he's meant to have a Bankai (and hence qualifies for a captain seat) in the quincy invasion bit but he gets punked by Ichigo who doesn't even need his zanpakto
BlackHadou
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I'm sorry, what skills?
I'm genuinely asking this. Kenpachi is the equivalent of bringing time stop to a gun fight. Your opponents skill ceases to matter because you fucking break the system of combat. He doesn't actually HAVE any skills. Kubo proved that the second he decided 'Fighting Properly' is considered a huge power up for him (spoilers, its not, 'Fighting Properly' would actually lower his skill level as Kenpachi has trained his instincts and muscle memory to react in completely different ways, and fighting styles are designed to remove slow decision making from the equation of combat).
Baroque
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@BlackHadou -- Will there be a Squad 12 for good-old-fashioned R&D (questionable or otherwise)?
There is a point where 'technique' ceases to matter, be it in fiction or in life -- you do not marvel at the Schwerer Gustav for its accuracy, you marvel at it for its destructive power, as an example.
Err . . . what 'no credit' do ye speak of? Hadou-san was less selling the guy short and more pointing out he's absurdly strong (and therefore needed the desk job more than everyone else needed the resulting paperwork from him being in the field).
There is a point where 'technique' ceases to matter, be it in fiction or in life -- you do not marvel at the Schwerer Gustav for its accuracy, you marvel at it for its destructive power, as an example.
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BlackHadou
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I'm... looking at them and thinking that yes, there's not much need to change them.@BlackHadou -- Will there be a Squad 12 for good-old-fashioned R&D (questionable or otherwise)?
More this guy has more power with no titles on his Zanpakuto than most characters who are captains. There's no way to adequately seal him for human world access.
Hyp3rB14d3
Gotta catch 'em all!
I think it's more that swinging his sword with two hands lets him hit harder than swinging it with one hand. Remember, his issue with the opponent he was fighting was that he couldn't hit hard enough to do damage. When swinging with one-hand, anyways.
BlackHadou
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Again, it wouldn't work very well, as Kenpachi wouldn't have the muscle memory to perform a proper sword slash.
Baroque
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. . . Someone like Kenpachi needs a proper sword slash?
Perhaps it's just my inexperience in the matter talking, but someone like Kenpachi seems likely to succeed at 'cutting' simply by merit of overpowering any resistance his weapon encounters.
BlackHadou
Bunny-Sensei
... If he had a axe, yes. The curve of a katana blade necessitates proper form and friction to actually perform a proper cut.. . . Someone like Kenpachi needs a proper sword slash?
Perhaps it's just my inexperience in the matter talking, but someone like Kenpachi seems likely to succeed at 'cutting' simply by merit of overpowering any resistance his weapon encounters.
Which means, by extension, he has this proper form with one hand, but not two.
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Baroque
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Insightful though that is, and certainly explains your stance on the matter, I feel it must be said that I never said that the resulting 'cut' would be anything resembling 'proper' -- just a success.
An 'in the loosest possible sense, in that he did successfully separate his opponent into parts' sort of 'cut' -- a success in that it actually worked, even if it was by no means as effective as if he was actually trained in wielding his weapon two-handed.
Saying this not to argue against your point, merely to clarify what I meant by 'cutting'. I am, after all, not the one with the know-how on the situation here.
BlackHadou
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Note that the operative word there was average. Squad 4 also only services Asia.
BlackHadou
Bunny-Sensei
That's like watching me take a bo staff, strike someone so hard to tear them in two, and saying that I cut them in two, I'll be honest.
If it isn't a spoil, how are you reinterpreting the quincy ? They never had any background until the final arc, beside their extermination by the shinigami... which is more than most factions in Bleach.
Baroque
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I did say 'the loosest possible sense', and do say it knowing full well that I'm stretching the definition of 'cut' thin enough that I could bake it into snack crisps.
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That only makes it worse, given how much are required in China alone and how the rest of the world has 6 squads between them.
It is a minor thing, maybe add a zero or two? Whole afterlife and all and where are the 50 billion dead residing anyway?
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The human population is obviously a bit lower in this setting.
BlackHadou
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Quincy is a form of human mysticism. Anyone with high spiritual power could become one, technically. Due to the fact they destroy Hollows instead of purifying them, Shinigami get rather annoyed with them, but until shortly after Christ, there was little reason to actually do anything about it due to their very small numbers. Orihime's canon powers would be, by Shinigami, considered a alternative to the powers of a Quincy. Fullbring (not sure if I'm actually using it or not, but I'll bring it up just in case) is another form of human mysticism.If it isn't a spoil, how are you reinterpreting the quincy ? They never had any background until the final arc, beside their extermination by the shinigami... which is more than most factions in Bleach.
When they went on a mass purging in Europe of Hollows, the Shinigami rather sternly told them no or be destroyed. Then there was a war. The Quincy rebels lost.
The irony is Uryu calls himself the last, and in a way, he's absolutely right. He's the last of the Quincy who tried to fight back against the Shinigami and got crushed. Quincy's as a whole are still alive and very well, though the power to destroy Hollows has long been considered a dangerous forbidden technique.
You seem to misunderstand slightly. Seireitai's Gotei 13 serves Asia. There's another 6 of those.
Further, I noted these were musings, nothing was actually set in stone, most of all numbers.