Umi-san
Procrastinating.
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Inner peace is an emotion in the same way that nothing is something.
I.e., it depends on your definition of emotion.
Star Wars: The Chosen One (An Anakin Skywalker Quest)
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I.e., it depends on your definition of emotion.
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My definition of emotion is the definition of emotion. "Instinctive or intuitive feeling as distinguished from reasoning or knowledge." Peace is obviously one of these things.
Alternatively:
"A strong feeling deriving from one's circumstances, mood, or relationships with others."
A strong sense of peace is something I've seen and heard often, and even experienced myself on some occasions.
So no, I disagree. It doesn't depend on "my" definition any more than that applies to pretty much every word in any language, and then it doesn't really hold any weight to the argument does it? As it just means it's a debate on semantics now, instead of the code being discussed (letter or spirit).
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Vicjer
The One Who Knows Less Than Nothing
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I just want you to know, if this quest doesn't end with a climactic lightsaber duel between Anakin and Jar Jar in a ship on a collision course with a dying star while the fate of the galaxy hangs in the balance, then I will be profoundly disappointed.
Umi-san
Procrastinating.
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So emotions are (strong) feelings. Okay.
I do not see why the paradox thus evoked in 1/6 of the core parables would be completely irreparable by instructors simply going "no emotion other than peace" or otherwise clarifying that "peace is what you feel when you aren't angry or joyous."
As far as flawed doctrine goes, this seems quite semantic.
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A strong sense of peace =/= peace as a strong feeling inherently
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Sometimes I will base Anakin's personality on solid discussion in the forum. You are his brain in some instances.
For forcing Anakin to think deep philosophical thoughts:
Young Philosopher trait: +1 Wisdom
For forcing Anakin to think deep philosophical thoughts:
Young Philosopher trait: +1 Wisdom
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To Quote Robert Jordan:I just want you to know, if this quest doesn't end with a climactic lightsaber duel between Anakin and Jar Jar in a ship on a collision course with a dying star while the fate of the galaxy hangs in the balance, then I will be profoundly disappointed.
The wheel weaves as the wheel weaves...
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lol I just read the shadow rising, finished it today.
Personality
[] Guarded Respect: The code guided the Jedi and served them well over thousands of years, but it may or may not be for you.
Personality
[] Focused: Learning Teras Kasi had given you self-control over your emotions and provided a way to let them out.
Story:
[] Offer them your money to purchase the parts.
Ambition
[] To leave Tatooine: You wish to leave the planet. (500 XP) NEW!
[] To Visit Naboo: You wish to visit the Planet Padme comes from (500 XP) NEW!
Level UP
[] Plan: Vision, Stats, Training
-[] Prophesy of the Force (1 Points): You receive a dream unveiling your true destiny (beginning of The Balance questline)
-[]Apprentice Speaker: +4 Charisma
-[]Novice Athlete: +2 Dexterity
-[]Novice Brute: +2 Strength
-[] One last (?) training with Master Zan
[] Guarded Respect: The code guided the Jedi and served them well over thousands of years, but it may or may not be for you.
Personality
[] Focused: Learning Teras Kasi had given you self-control over your emotions and provided a way to let them out.
Story:
[] Offer them your money to purchase the parts.
Ambition
[] To leave Tatooine: You wish to leave the planet. (500 XP) NEW!
[] To Visit Naboo: You wish to visit the Planet Padme comes from (500 XP) NEW!
Level UP
[] Plan: Vision, Stats, Training
-[] Prophesy of the Force (1 Points): You receive a dream unveiling your true destiny (beginning of The Balance questline)
-[]Apprentice Speaker: +4 Charisma
-[]Novice Athlete: +2 Dexterity
-[]Novice Brute: +2 Strength
-[] One last (?) training with Master Zan
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- The World
That's a bit depressing to say and think, though, isn't it? I mean, I'd like to think people actually have some agency instead of everything being predetermined by some ever repeating design.
Also, @Umi-san, I think the reason teachers can't "resolve" the paradox by saying "peace is what you feel when you aren't angry or joyous" is because anger aside, peace and joy aren't mutually exclusive. Otherwise ecstatic peace (happiness) wouldn't be a thing. Delight is as peaceful as it is joyful, and "enjoying a moment's peace" is a concept and past-time older than civilization.
That said, to avoid beating this not quite dead horse, semantics should really be a LOT less of a barrier to proper understanding and reasoning for a cult that basically runs on empathy, telepathy and intuition.
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I read through the ambition, we actually need to become a Jedi Knight if we want to complete the ambition. So no leaving the order just before graduation. Whats the plan since we can no longer leave before graduation?
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- Romania
Get Qui-Gon to take us with him as in canon and hope Maul won't go after our family, since I don't think Cliegg will want to move away.
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Leave the moment the Senate orders the Jedi to take leadership of the armies? Jedi are diplomats and peacekeepers after all, not warmongers.
Depending on our connections and reputation by then, we might still be able to become a general or whatever anyway. On the other hand, Jedi pretty much sucked as military leaders, which didn't help the Republic any. So we aren't likely to be very good tacticians ourselves, let alone strategists.
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- Ireland
Wow I was not expecting that roll for who we met at Wato's...
I like it as it shows that knock on effects are a thing and canon is officially off the rails. However, I think it shows that we can't place as much importance on our meta knowledge.
I mean if we hadn't rolled 11 would we have met Padme? thus passing the meet an angel ambition?
Anyway
Personality
[X] Guarded Respect: The code guided the Jedi and served them well over thousands of years, but it may or may not be for you.
Personality
[X] Focused: Learning Teras Kasi had given you self-control over your emotions and provided a way to let them out.
Story:
[X] Offer them your money to purchase the parts.
Ambition
[X] To leave Tatooine: You wish to leave the planet. (500 XP) NEW!
[X] To Visit Naboo: You wish to visit the Planet Padme comes from (500 XP) NEW!
[X] Plan Destiny
-[x] Prophesy of the Force (1 Points): You receive a dream unveiling your true destiny (beginning of The Balance questline)
-[x] Late night walk with Padme
-[x] One last (?) training with Master Zan
-[x]Apprentice Speaker: +4 Charisma
-[x]Novice Athlete: +2 Dexterity
-[x] Novice Philosopher: +2 Wisdom
-[x] Novice Student: + 2 Intelligence
I like this. It seems a pretty good view to have on the Jedi code at our age, respectful but open to different opinions. I like the idea of control over your emotions rather than ignoring them until they become a problem or letting them rule you. The quicker they get the money the quicker they can leave, which I believe is best whether we decide to go with them or not. Can't really see us not getting paid back but even if we don't there will be plenty of time for dolla in the future.
Still not too sure these ambitions are as easy as we expect to gain for the reasons stated above, especially as i don't particularly want to leave just yet. And I'd like to meet with Padme to gain a better relationship and whatever extras the option will bring along with our martial arts training boost and the beginning of the balance quest.
Honestly the particulars when it comes to the stat boosts aren't something I'm overly fussed on at the minute beyond the charisma and intelligence boost.
I like it as it shows that knock on effects are a thing and canon is officially off the rails. However, I think it shows that we can't place as much importance on our meta knowledge.
I mean if we hadn't rolled 11 would we have met Padme? thus passing the meet an angel ambition?
Anyway
Personality
[X] Guarded Respect: The code guided the Jedi and served them well over thousands of years, but it may or may not be for you.
Personality
[X] Focused: Learning Teras Kasi had given you self-control over your emotions and provided a way to let them out.
Story:
[X] Offer them your money to purchase the parts.
Ambition
[X] To leave Tatooine: You wish to leave the planet. (500 XP) NEW!
[X] To Visit Naboo: You wish to visit the Planet Padme comes from (500 XP) NEW!
[X] Plan Destiny
-[x] Prophesy of the Force (1 Points): You receive a dream unveiling your true destiny (beginning of The Balance questline)
-[x] Late night walk with Padme
-[x] One last (?) training with Master Zan
-[x]Apprentice Speaker: +4 Charisma
-[x]Novice Athlete: +2 Dexterity
-[x] Novice Philosopher: +2 Wisdom
-[x] Novice Student: + 2 Intelligence
I like this. It seems a pretty good view to have on the Jedi code at our age, respectful but open to different opinions. I like the idea of control over your emotions rather than ignoring them until they become a problem or letting them rule you. The quicker they get the money the quicker they can leave, which I believe is best whether we decide to go with them or not. Can't really see us not getting paid back but even if we don't there will be plenty of time for dolla in the future.
Still not too sure these ambitions are as easy as we expect to gain for the reasons stated above, especially as i don't particularly want to leave just yet. And I'd like to meet with Padme to gain a better relationship and whatever extras the option will bring along with our martial arts training boost and the beginning of the balance quest.
Honestly the particulars when it comes to the stat boosts aren't something I'm overly fussed on at the minute beyond the charisma and intelligence boost.
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Personality:
[] Guarded Respect: The code guided the Jedi and served them well over thousands of years, but it may or may not be for you.
[] Focused: Learning Teras Kasi had given you self-control over your emotions and provided a way to let them out.
Plan: Teras kasi advantage
[] One last (?) training with Master Zan
[] Combat Prodigy (5 Points): Instantly gain one level in all unlocked Combat skill trees. Instantly gain one level upon unlocking a combat skill tree. NEW!
[]Novice Athlete: +2 Dexterity
[]Novice Brute: +2 Strength
[] Guarded Respect: The code guided the Jedi and served them well over thousands of years, but it may or may not be for you.
[] Focused: Learning Teras Kasi had given you self-control over your emotions and provided a way to let them out.
Plan: Teras kasi advantage
[] One last (?) training with Master Zan
[] Combat Prodigy (5 Points): Instantly gain one level in all unlocked Combat skill trees. Instantly gain one level upon unlocking a combat skill tree. NEW!
[]Novice Athlete: +2 Dexterity
[]Novice Brute: +2 Strength
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- France
Personality:
[] Distrust: The Jedi Code provide a way to live, but was it the best way to live for a force user?
Personality:
[] Focused: Learning Teras Kasi had given you self-control over your emotions and provided a way to let them out.
Story Vote:
[] Offer them your money to purchase the parts.
Ambitions :
[] To leave Tatooine: You wish to leave the planet
[] To build a Podracer: Podracing is so cool! (750 Experience Points, 1 Chosen Point)
-[x] Prophesy of the Force (1 Points): You receive a dream unveiling your true destiny (beginning of The Balance questline)
-[x] Late night walk with Qui Gonn
-[x] One last (?) training with Master Zan
-[x]Apprentice Speaker: +4 Charisma
-[x]Novice Athlete: +2 Dexterity
-[x] Novice Philosopher: +2 Wisdom
-[x] Novice Student: + 2 Intelligence
[] Distrust: The Jedi Code provide a way to live, but was it the best way to live for a force user?
Personality:
[] Focused: Learning Teras Kasi had given you self-control over your emotions and provided a way to let them out.
Story Vote:
[] Offer them your money to purchase the parts.
Ambitions :
[] To leave Tatooine: You wish to leave the planet
[] To build a Podracer: Podracing is so cool! (750 Experience Points, 1 Chosen Point)
-[x] Prophesy of the Force (1 Points): You receive a dream unveiling your true destiny (beginning of The Balance questline)
-[x] Late night walk with Qui Gonn
-[x] One last (?) training with Master Zan
-[x]Apprentice Speaker: +4 Charisma
-[x]Novice Athlete: +2 Dexterity
-[x] Novice Philosopher: +2 Wisdom
-[x] Novice Student: + 2 Intelligence
Umi-san
Procrastinating.
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I don't feel peace when I feel joy, I feel joy.
Peace to me is the feeling that remains when louder feelings are put aside. I suppose it still is present and thus can be felt, but it would harder to do with love screaming in your heart.
It's nonsensical to expect that a couple of words forced into parallel order with other phrases would perfectly capture that which is intended to be intuited from them.
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- USA
That was the dodged bullet. One point lower and you would have had Maul after you
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- USA
Combat prodigy is much better if we wait until we have a bunch of combat skills at 3 or 4 since unlocking takes 1 action, going from 1 to 2 takes 2, 2 to 3 takes 3 and so on. So it saves us actions if we wait to take that.
Counter point:
Anakin knows that the Jedi have existed for thousands of years. Following the code. The code has been a pillar of Jedi stability (and stagnation OOC knowledge wise it has to be said) and guidance for thousands of years through various crisis and tribulations.
Also.
Except the code doesn't mean jack about other people. Its for what a Jedi is. Not about what others want the Jedi or force user to do. This is missing the point of this part entirely.
Except Anakin *did* pursue knowledge as both a slave and as a moisture farmer's son. By learning from the mechanics as a slave and learning from the holocrons as well as Master Zan. Being a mechanic is knowledge, martial arts are knowledge.
Also, again. Missing the point entirely since the code is about the Jedi personally IIRC. Plus I believe this part of the code is about creating harmony in yourself.
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I've always viewed it that even if its chaotic all around you, if you had harmony within yourself, you were following the code. For example, if you were going to take an action, and you had thought things over and resolved any doubts you might have had.
We could possibly join the Altisian Jedi. They pretty much wandered the galaxy working as relief workers for disaster hit worlds. They also allowed you to have families.
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- California
Do we ever want to take the bounty hunter ambition? I really want to after we become a Jedi Knight and leave the order. Though is it worth it overall?
I think that depends...I don't think it's necessarily the only way to become a Jedi, joining the Order I mean. Is a Jedi someone who is a part of the Jedi Order? Or is a Jedi someone who follows their philosophy and goes out of his way to help people? If it's the latter, then we don't need the Order to become a Jedi.
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- Ireland
I would enjoy it. Maybe tie it in with the free the slaves ambition as well. I'm sure we'll get there at some point
Uh, did you watch The Clone Wars? Anakin was a great (if crazy) commander.