Star Wars: Galaxy in Shambles

[X] No. The Order is going to need new ideas and fresh perspectives, and on the new path the Order is taking, it is clear that their lessons will need to come from the Living Force, instead of the rigid hand of a millennium of traditions and teachings.
-[X] Have them be raised by their closest family, on Tatooine.

[X] Tython. The original home of the Jedi, and home to relics from even before the Jedi became the Jedi. Its climate is very conducive to agriculture and anything else the Jedi need to do to sustain themselves. It's largely isolated and unknown, while having a location that's very conducive to conducting missions in the Core. However, it was scarred by the New Sith Wars, and there may very well still be tribal remnants of the Rakata left on the planet.
 
One could argue that the fall of Anakin came from not following traditions enough and the jedi loosing touch with their roots. Awaking was older, attached to his mother, and loved/married. All of which contributed to his fall.

I'm not saying we shouldn't take a moment to examine ourselves, but let's not throw the bath water out with the baby.
 
[X] No. The Order is going to need new ideas and fresh perspectives, and on the new path the Order is taking, it is clear that their lessons will need to come from the Living Force, instead of the rigid hand of a millennium of traditions and teachings.
-[X] Have them be raised by their closest family, on Tatooine.

[X] Tython. The original home of the Jedi, and home to relics from even before the Jedi became the Jedi. Its climate is very conducive to agriculture and anything else the Jedi need to do to sustain themselves. It's largely isolated and unknown, while having a location that's very conducive to conducting missions in the Core. However, it was scarred by the New Sith Wars, and there may very well still be tribal remnants of the Rakata left on the planet.
 
One could argue that the fall of Anakin came from not following traditions enough and the jedi loosing touch with their roots. Awaking was older, attached to his mother, and loved/married. All of which contributed to his fall.

I'm not saying we shouldn't take a moment to examine ourselves, but let's not throw the bath water out with the baby.
Imo that really risks learning the wrong lessons. We need to be pressing towards the model Luke figured out in Legends, not doubling down on the ideas that just barely avoided bringing the Order to outright extinction.
 
[X] Yes. With the Sith gone from the galaxy, there is no risk to training people in the Force, and there is significantly less of a reason to split up. You and the other Jedi will be able to not only teach the children, but also learn from them as you change your methods of teaching.

[X] Ossus. The second home of the Jedi, and home to countless relics from the pre-Republic Jedi and beyond. It is largely barren and inhospitable, and while that will pose its own challenges, those will be far easier for the Jedi to overcome than anyone who would try to find you. Additionally, given its location, it will be far easier to conduct missions, outreach or otherwise, in the Outer Rim. However, it is also fairly known to the Empire, meaning that Jedi Hunters could end up becoming a significant problem.
One could argue that the fall of Anakin came from not following traditions enough and the jedi loosing touch with their roots. Awaking was older, attached to his mother, and loved/married. All of which contributed to his fall.

I'm not saying we shouldn't take a moment to examine ourselves, but let's not throw the bath water out with the baby.

That, and also having Obi wan as his teacher, let's face it Obi-wan failed him as a teacher and mentor. They shouldn't have had a fresh knight like Obi-wan teaching someone as volatile as Anakin.
 
[X] Yes. With the Sith gone from the galaxy, there is no risk to training people in the Force, and there is significantly less of a reason to split up. You and the other Jedi will be able to not only teach the children, but also learn from them as you change your methods of teaching.
[X] Tython. The original home of the Jedi, and home to relics from even before the Jedi became the Jedi. Its climate is very conducive to agriculture and anything else the Jedi need to do to sustain themselves. It's largely isolated and unknown, while having a location that's very conducive to conducting missions in the Core. However, it was scarred by the New Sith Wars, and there may very well still be tribal remnants of the Rakata left on the planet.
 
[X] Yes. With the Sith gone from the galaxy, there is no risk to training people in the Force, and there is significantly less of a reason to split up. You and the other Jedi will be able to not only teach the children, but also learn from them as you change your methods of teaching.
[X] Tython. The original home of the Jedi, and home to relics from even before the Jedi became the Jedi. Its climate is very conducive to agriculture and anything else the Jedi need to do to sustain themselves. It's largely isolated and unknown, while having a location that's very conducive to conducting missions in the Core. However, it was scarred by the New Sith Wars, and there may very well still be tribal remnants of the Rakata left on the planet.
 
[X] Yes. With the Sith gone from the galaxy, there is no risk to training people in the Force, and there is significantly less of a reason to split up. You and the other Jedi will be able to not only teach the children, but also learn from them as you change your methods of teaching.

[X] Ossus. The second home of the Jedi, and home to countless relics from the pre-Republic Jedi and beyond. It is largely barren and inhospitable, and while that will pose its own challenges, those will be far easier for the Jedi to overcome than anyone who would try to find you. Additionally, given its location, it will be far easier to conduct missions, outreach or otherwise, in the Outer Rim. However, it is also fairly known to the Empire, meaning that Jedi Hunters could end up becoming a significant problem.
 
[X] No. The Order is going to need new ideas and fresh perspectives, and on the new path the Order is taking, it is clear that their lessons will need to come from the Living Force, instead of the rigid hand of a millennium of traditions and teachings.
-[X] Have them be raised by their closest family, on Tatooine.

[X] Ossus. The second home of the Jedi, and home to countless relics from the pre-Republic Jedi and beyond. It is largely barren and inhospitable, and while that will pose its own challenges, those will be far easier for the Jedi to overcome than anyone who would try to find you. Additionally, given its location, it will be far easier to conduct missions, outreach or otherwise, in the Outer Rim. However, it is also fairly known to the Empire, meaning that Jedi Hunters could end up becoming a significant problem.
 
[X] Yes. With the Sith gone from the galaxy, there is no risk to training people in the Force, and there is significantly less of a reason to split up. You and the other Jedi will be able to not only teach the children, but also learn from them as you change your methods of teaching.
[X] Telos IV. Known simply as Telos is a planet located in the Kwymar system along the hydian way. It offers ready access to key amenities such as advanced technology, easy access to hyperspace lanes and ruins of jedi temples from days past. All of these make Telos an attractive location for the nascent new jedi order. However the Shadow of Xanatos looms large and many people still remember the Padawan turned aid and successor to the former tyrant Crion.

So yeah thought to add telos to the mix since with it's history and location it could be fun to explore.
 
[X] Yes. With the Sith gone from the galaxy, there is no risk to training people in the Force, and there is significantly less of a reason to split up. You and the other Jedi will be able to not only teach the children, but also learn from them as you change your methods of teaching.

[X] Tython. The original home of the Jedi, and home to relics from even before the Jedi became the Jedi. Its climate is very conducive to agriculture and anything else the Jedi need to do to sustain themselves. It's largely isolated and unknown, while having a location that's very conducive to conducting missions in the Core. However, it was scarred by the New Sith Wars, and there may very well still be tribal remnants of the Rakata left on the planet.
 
[X] Yes. With the Sith gone from the galaxy, there is no risk to training people in the Force, and there is significantly less of a reason to split up. You and the other Jedi will be able to not only teach the children, but also learn from them as you change your methods of teaching.

[X] Tython. The original home of the Jedi, and home to relics from even before the Jedi became the Jedi. Its climate is very conducive to agriculture and anything else the Jedi need to do to sustain themselves. It's largely isolated and unknown, while having a location that's very conducive to conducting missions in the Core. However, it was scarred by the New Sith Wars, and there may very well still be tribal remnants of the Rakata left on the planet.
 
[X] No. The Order is going to need new ideas and fresh perspectives, and on the new path the Order is taking, it is clear that their lessons will need to come from the Living Force, instead of the rigid hand of a millennium of traditions and teachings.
-[X] Have them adopted by Bail and Breha Organa.

[X] Tython. The original home of the Jedi, and home to relics from even before the Jedi became the Jedi. Its climate is very conducive to agriculture and anything else the Jedi need to do to sustain themselves. It's largely isolated and unknown, while having a location that's very conducive to conducting missions in the Core. However, it was scarred by the New Sith Wars, and there may very well still be tribal remnants of the Rakata left on the planet.

I'm in favor of Tython, since we know we'll be nearby Alderaan if they need our help. Plus, if Bail Organa makes it it known that Alderaan is a safe planet for Jedi, it'll make it an easy place for exiles to find before making their way to us.
 
[X] Yes. With the Sith gone from the galaxy, there is no risk to training people in the Force, and there is significantly less of a reason to split up. You and the other Jedi will be able to not only teach the children, but also learn from them as you change your methods of teaching.
[X] Tython. The original home of the Jedi, and home to relics from even before the Jedi became the Jedi. Its climate is very conducive to agriculture and anything else the Jedi need to do to sustain themselves. It's largely isolated and unknown, while having a location that's very conducive to conducting missions in the Core. However, it was scarred by the New Sith Wars, and there may very well still be tribal remnants of the Rakata left on the planet.

Tython is a place of spiritual guidance for these dark times ahead.
 
[X] No. The Order is going to need new ideas and fresh perspectives, and on the new path the Order is taking, it is clear that their lessons will need to come from the Living Force, instead of the rigid hand of a millennium of traditions and teachings.
-[X] Have them adopted by Bail and Breha Organa.

[X] Tython. The original home of the Jedi, and home to relics from even before the Jedi became the Jedi. Its climate is very conducive to agriculture and anything else the Jedi need to do to sustain themselves. It's largely isolated and unknown, while having a location that's very conducive to conducting missions in the Core. However, it was scarred by the New Sith Wars, and there may very well still be tribal remnants of the Rakata left on the planet.
 
The Jedi code, as it is, is pretty hypocritical with the no-attachements rule, since people will ALWAYS form attachements. In the case of the Jedi, the bond between master and padawan is pretty apparent. The issue with Anakin was that he let his attachement to the people he loved rule him. That and the council's blatant mishandling of him.
 
The Jedi code, as it is, is pretty hypocritical with the no-attachements rule, since people will ALWAYS form attachements. In the case of the Jedi, the bond between master and padawan is pretty apparent. The issue with Anakin was that he let his attachement to the people he loved rule him. That and the council's blatant mishandling of him.
A major factor in that is the fact that "attachment" is frequently read as "emotional connection," or something along those lines, despite that a) not being what was actually meant, and b) a frankly ludicrous proposition. Remember that masters and padawans frequently develop Force Bonds with one another, which is even more than a mere emotional connection.

When the Jedi discuss attachment, they are not discussing one of the things that makes people… people, but rather what happens when they're tainted by greed and possessiveness.
 
When I think of the rules against attachment. I think of Obi-wan.

Anakin got something right when he said Jedi were in a sense encouraged to love. Compassion for other people, wanting to protect them.

And what we see of Obi-Wan bears this out. He outright says, he loved Anakin. There's no question of that. He raised him as a child, the two protected one another, were close friends, and fought together throughout the clone wars. "You were my Brother Anakin."

Love absolutely is allowed. For a start if you think Yoda doesn't love the younglings he teaches then I've got a bridge to sell you.

Obi-Wan, throughout his life held a deep admiration and respect for Duchess Satine, he loved her.

But for the two of them, their duties come first. Her as a leader of her people, him as a jedi. Both have responsibilities, that neither are willing to set aside or compromise. Or, at least that Duchess Satine isn't willing to allow distractions from her work. Paraphrased Obi-Wan tells her. "If you had asked I would have left the Jedi order for you." But she never asks, and so he stays a Jedi, and despite their feelings for one another maintain a professional work ethic.

And it's that simple. As a jedi your duties should come first. But being a jedi is a choice. If you don't wish to be a jedi. It's as simple as leaving. Ahsoka did it.

The confusion people often have, is that the Jedi order only trains jedi in the ways of the force. And for good reason, they don't want to train people with force powers who might misuse them, they see using the force as something to be done responsibly, and not for personal gain. And, because on of the orders duties is to protect the republic and to watch against sith, or dark jedi. They often keep tabs on those who leave the order. To try and make sure for example that Count Dooku doesn't use his abilities to set himself up as a warlord.

He can act as a political idealist, outside of the jedi. But he cannot use his training as a rebel.

Really simply, the order doesn't want to train someone who will use their powers selfishly, since the whole core concept of the jedi, is them being guardians of the peace and servants of the people.

And Obi-Wan, in my mind, did everything right. Yes, he loved Duchess Satine, but he never let his feelings for her get in the way of his job. If he wants to be with her, he can, if he wants to be a jedi and serve the people he can. But under the orders rules he's not allowed to do both since one compromises the other.

In a hypothetical scenario, Obi-wan marries Satine, but stays in the order, and a young jedi is sent to mediate a trade dispute between Mandalore and another planet. Can the younger Jedi really be expected to be truly impartial when a master Jedi has a close relationship with one of the planets rulers?

It's theoretically possible that Kenobi marries her and stays impartial. But it's much more difficult.
And beyond that, the Jedi very specifically wanted to not be the kind of order that was ran by familial dynasties of those strong in the force. Which is another reason the order forbids marriage. The Shan family, descendants of Revan being particularly strong in the force and Satele Shan rising to the rank of grand master.

So Obi-Wan, despite his love for Satine, remained a Jedi and did his duty. And, despite his love for Anakin, when it was required of him, he did his duty to the order.

Anakin, on the other hand, did Not do his duty as a jedi.

He was a hero throughout the clone wars, doing his duty, despite his relationship with Padme. And that's well enough.

But near the end, he abandoned his duty, to act selfishly to try and protect Padme, and betrayed the order. And that's the problem.
 
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[X] No. The Order is going to need new ideas and fresh perspectives, and on the new path the Order is taking, it is clear that their lessons will need to come from the Living Force, instead of the rigid hand of a millennium of traditions and teachings.
-[X] Have them adopted by Bail and Breha Organa.

[X] Alderaan. While it may be under the Empire, limiting the number of Jedi that can take refuge there, it will allow you to work much more closely with Bail Organa as he works to restore the Republic, and it will ensure a stable lifestyle for the Order.

[X] Taris


I'm up for any world in honesty but I'll go with these...

...I'm throwing in Taris entirely cause it's another city world even if the location there was long since destroyed and searched through to be transport things to Tython. Was also looking at a list of the various worlds of the classification.

But anyways I ended up thinking and wondering about Force Unleashed and some from there. For one involving Kota's Militia as well as Felucia with Shaak Ti and Maris Brood.
 
[X] Yes. With the Sith gone from the galaxy, there is no risk to training people in the Force, and there is significantly less of a reason to split up. You and the other Jedi will be able to not only teach the children, but also learn from them as you change your methods of teaching.
[X] Tython. The original home of the Jedi, and home to relics from even before the Jedi became the Jedi. Its climate is very conducive to agriculture and anything else the Jedi need to do to sustain themselves. It's largely isolated and unknown, while having a location that's very conducive to conducting missions in the Core. However, it was scarred by the New Sith Wars, and there may very well still be tribal remnants of the Rakata left on the planet.
 
[X] Yes. With the Sith gone from the galaxy, there is no risk to training people in the Force, and there is significantly less of a reason to split up. You and the other Jedi will be able to not only teach the children, but also learn from them as you change your methods of teaching.
[X] Tython. The original home of the Jedi, and home to relics from even before the Jedi became the Jedi. Its climate is very conducive to agriculture and anything else the Jedi need to do to sustain themselves. It's largely isolated and unknown, while having a location that's very conducive to conducting missions in the Core. However, it was scarred by the New Sith Wars, and there may very well still be tribal remnants of the Rakata left on the planet.
 
Yeah, there are frankly too many locations or planets that could potentially be used by the Jedi for me to list, which is why I only listed the 3 most obvious options. Telos IV, Daghobah, Felucia, Kashyyyk, Dantooine... Heck, trying to colonize the Rishi Maze is 100% an option.
 
[X] Tython. The original home of the Jedi, and home to relics from even before the Jedi became the Jedi. Its climate is very conducive to agriculture and anything else the Jedi need to do to sustain themselves. It's largely isolated and unknown, while having a location that's very conducive to conducting missions in the Core. However, it was scarred by the New Sith Wars, and there may very well still be tribal remnants of the Rakata left on the planet.
 
Yeah, there are frankly too many locations or planets that could potentially be used by the Jedi for me to list, which is why I only listed the 3 most obvious options. Telos IV, Daghobah, Felucia, Kashyyyk, Dantooine... Heck, trying to colonize the Rishi Maze is 100% an option.
Felucia has a confirmed Clone Legion on the surface right now. Gunning head first into the still Order 66'd clones is suicide at this stage.

It would be great to find a way to free the clones, but I dont see how we could do it. Not when we are leaning towards abandoning all influence over the Empire/Republic remnants.

Though to be quite frank, I'm expecting a civil war within a year or two. Without Sidious or a similar figure to hold it together, the Empire is going to collapse in short order. And Mas Amedda is very unlikely to manage.
 
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