Y'all remember those more innocent times of the 1980s, right? The halcyon days of Chernobyl, Challenger, Reagan, Iran-Contra, almost war in the Persian Gulf, recession, AIDS, actual war in the Persian Gulf, the ever-present spectre of nuclear annihilation and how it felt like way too many people who were in charge of shit seemed to get off on it? I mean, I remember all of that shit and I was ten when TNG premiered.Just because he's EP doesn't mean you should put him in front of a mike you fucking numpties! said:
Star Trek couldn't just baldly point fingers at societal problems, so instead they approached it through metaphor, we're just talking about Klingons and Ferengi in our little sci-fi ghetto of a genre, nothing to do with modern politics nosiree. Progressives were more limited in their ability to speak truth to power back then, but Star Trek still carried the seeds of a lot of daring ideas and points. I suppose the real question to ask is if we still need Star Trek. I'd say yes. Lots of people still need to be eased into ideas and to dream of a better world, yet one still striving. Overall I don't see the point of making Star Trek overtly gritty... if you want to directly confront issues you could watch The Wire or something.
I think what he is saying is that in 80's and 90's there was still that hope that one day we'll get over ourselves and reach the Star Trek ideal whereas we now know that to be a total lie and humanity will be long dead before it actually gets better.
The thing is this isn't exactly new to Star Trek. The new movies have this theme in a mild degree and it's pretty heavy in Discovery. Personally, I blame the fact that the writers are affected by the world just like the rest of us. So when most of these guys grew up with Star Trek TNG they saw a world where it was constantly reinforced that we live in the shining city on a hill and that soon all the troubles of the world will be solved thanks to us being just so darn great. Now, this was a dirty lie invented to sell a specific political agenda but it was pretty much everywhere. Now they see the same news cycle we see where the profits are found in selling people on the idea that shit is getting worse all the time and nothing will be solved and any political activism to fix it is written off the as stupid, ineffective, or somehow real problem. So now they're trying to reflect that image into Star Trek, missing the point utterly and making Star Trek feel bland and samey. I haven't seen this show, I likely won't give I'm not about to pay for it, but just going by the trailers showing how Star Fleet is somehow turned into this bureaucratic nightmare that cares only about its image I can't help but feel that this is Star Trek as written by South Park politics.
There are people who say Firefly was a good show. People are wrong all the time.
And how do you know you're not one of them?
Probably because I can recognize a joke when it gets told.
Apparently not.
Or we end up in the 40K Timeline.
Yeah, I had to use a VPN. I really don't see why trailers should be region-locked.
