Star Trek: Discovery

The main character some how managed to act like she was in Mass Effect: Andromeda despite being a real person. The jerky head movement and lifeless face were really off-putting.

Still, at least they finally have a Discovery that doesn't look like the model was made for a 90s video game.
 
looks good im liking that it feels more like enterprise then i was expecting

seems like scifi shows are back [what with this, the expanse, dark matter, killjoys ect] should be quite a good year
 
No wonder they're not working on another Mass Effect game. They've got a TV series now!

> : V
 
I think it mostly looks alright, but I'm not sure I like how action-y the trailer felt. I hope it's just a trailer thing and that the series won't rely on action too much.
 
To quote myself:

The changes here are as insulting and horrible as if Rogue One had all the OT aesthetics removed and replaced with PT aesthetics. When filming something within a franchise set in a certain period of that franchise, you're expected to make a damn good-faith effort to attempt to at least replicate the general feel and intentions of the aesthetics of that time. It doesn't have to be one-to one exact duplications, but you're expected to be able to at least say 'well, it sort of looks like it'. The shit shown looks more like MASS EFFECT than it does Trek, let alone Trek set near 2260. If they can't even put in enough effort to make people go 'yeah, I guess that would be what it looked like if they had the budget and techniques at the time', then they can fuck off.

This is almost as absurd as insisting that because the Iliad had been first translated into English using 16th century English, all dialogue in any movie about the Trojan War needs to be done in 16th century english. I'm sorry, but art style is just as much a language as any written or spoken one, and language changes over time. The entire point of Trek's aesthetics is to tell you that this is the future of the present, and is set in the future of the present. This future is a fairly shiny future where technology does solve problems (and sometimes create new ones) and has allowed humanity to come closer to achieving its potential. The point of updating the aesthetics, as they did here, is because the original aesthetics have now become kitsch. You can either have the original look, or the intent behind the original look, choose one, and the concept artists and set designers chose the latter, because that's more important than whether warp nacelles are round or square. People complain about how it looks kind of like Mass Effect but people forget the corollary. Mass Effect (1 at least) was designed specifically by its artists and concept designers to be basically a modern Star Trek. "A modern Star Trek looks similar to a modern Star trek" is not some kind of horrible thing.

Look. I was a fan of Deus Ex, and Deus Ex had a very 1990s aesthetic. When they made a prequel, set 25 years before, their aesthetic changed very significantly-weapons got more tactical, cybernetics became sleeker and more like modern prosthetics combined with Apple-style flair, you didn't have cyborgs who were giant uggos because they had brutal Terminator-style cybernetic enhancements violating their flesh (even Namir and Barrett look very well-put-together)-and it worked, because had they made a game which had modern graphics but 1990s art styles, it would look fairly laughable. It would be hard to take a lot of this shit seriously. The visual language changes didn't suddenly make it not-Deus Ex.

And no, before you ask, your example of Star Wars is both incorrect and irrelevant. The aesthetics of combat in Rogue One are in fact drastically changed from the OT or the PT for that matter-it's the dirty, visceral sort of killing that you see in Black Hawk Down, not the heroic action of the trilogies. Just because the props haven't changed doesn't mean the aesthetic hasn't, and it is absolute blindness to suggest that props are the same thing as aesthetics. Furthermore, Star Wars is much more fantastical (it even tells you straight up that it is set in the past, in a distant land). It isn't Star Trek, which has the conceit that it is the future of something similar to our present. In fact, your incorrect argument that Rogue One shares the OT's aesthetics (it does not) demonstrates the vapidness of this argument. It's literally considering "aesthetics" as nothing more than literal set dressing, something that can be evaluated as "do these much more expensive, high-quality props which people put far more work into look kind of like the ones they dug out 50 years ago?" It's vapid and facile.
 
Man, this is going to be a real shitshow if those are the handpicked shots for a hype trailer.

I mean Trek usually is anyways, but this seems worse than normal.
 
I'm admittedly not a big TOS fan, but what's the point of setting it around Kirk's time if you're going to avoid the iconography of that time period like it's on fire?

Also, those don't look like Klingons, I know what Klingons are supposed to look like because they were consistently on TV for 17 years with 13 of those years having at least one Klingon as a series regular including the character with the single most appearances in Star Trek.
Those uniforms did gave a strong ME feel...
To me they look like they are based off the Enterprise uniforms aka the second worst uniforms.
Mass Effect (1 at least) was designed specifically by its artists and concept designers to be basically a modern Star Trek. "A modern Star Trek looks similar to a modern Star trek" is not some kind of horrible thing.
I agree that they shouldn't waste time trying to recreate the look of a cheap 60s TV show, but maybe they should have done that by not adapting the era that is canonically established to look like a cheap 60s TV show. Or establish it as an all bets are off reboot of the franchise.
 
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Personally I liked the Enterprise uniforms, but I can definitely see why people can really dislike them.
 
I like the uniforms and think the ship design is a bit better then the original concept art we got for the show


vs this



though the new version still doesnt look as good as the NX-01, Soverign, Voyager or Defiant it does look better then the original series enterprise
 
Yeah, that's the Shenzhou in the trailer. Based on the poster, the Discovery still has a design based on the low-detail concept from last year's pre-printed teaser.
 
This looks exact how I'd expect Star Trek to look when filmed with modern tech and a budget. Trek' s look has always been determined by budget not by a desire to maintain an aesthetic.
 
This looks exact how I'd expect Star Trek to look when filmed with modern tech and a budget. Trek' s look has always been determined by budget not by a desire to maintain an aesthetic.

Sure, if it was set in 2400 or an alternate universe. But, uh, that's not exactly why people are irritated with it.
 
I'm really over the attitude of "it looks different and is therefore awful" or "It doesn't look exactly the way I envision it and is therefore awful."
 
I'm really over the attitude of "it looks different and is therefore awful" or "It doesn't look exactly the way I envision it and is therefore awful."
The only thing I can really fault it on is the looks of the Klingons. Other than that, This looks moneyed up as fuck, so hopefully the effects and acting can sell me on the vision.
 
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