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Can't find the other thread on this topic, but in addition to Brian Fuller they've got Nicholas Meyers (Aka: Wrath of Kahn/Undiscovered Country) has been hired as co-producer and lead writer for the series.

Nicholas Meyer Joins New Star Trek Series

NOW we can officially be hopeful. Holy fuck, this might actually work.
 
Bryan Fuller Stepping Back From Showrunner Role on 'Star Trek: Discovery' (EXCLUSIVE)
No more Bryan Fuller showrunning, sadly. And looks like...
Writer-director Akiva Goldsman is also expected to join "Discovery" in a top creative role.
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Huh, wonder what he's done before?
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0326040/ said:
I Am Legend (producer)
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Um...
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0326040/ said:
Paranormal Activity 4 (executive producer)
Paranormal Activity 3 (executive producer)
Paranormal Activity 2 (executive producer)
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Well, that's... okay, I suppose...

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0326040/ said:
Transformers 7 (producer) (announced)
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http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0326040/ said:
Hancock (producer)
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oh no
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Jonah Hex (producer)
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oh no
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Mr. & Mrs. Smith (producer)
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oh nooooo
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Batman & Robin (written by)
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Hey guys, can someone help me out here and explain why this mass effect TV trailer has the Star Trek branding on it? thx
Star Trek: Discovery Video - First Look Trailer (For Americans)
(for everyone else)

Well, we finally have something to look at. Looks like they're very much taking some notes from the reboot series -- in fact I'd say more from the reboot than the source :V
 
This is not prime-Trek. This does not fit in with 2250. It looks nothing like any plausible reimagined aesthetic for the timeperiod updated to fit modern filming budgets. It looks nothing like any established point in the timeline, and not only that, it looks STUPID.

The only thing vaguely trek-like is the general design of the ship, and even then that looks more like a 2410 era ship than it does a ship that has coexisted for ten years with THIS:



This series looks more like a Mass Effect TV show, and shows every indication of being a complete and total fucking mid-air collision with no survivors.
 
Honestly I think what's throwing me the most is the uniforms. The weird switch to Gold-Sliver-Bronze in place of (presumably) Gold-Blue-Red is really fucking with me, even though I think it's an interesting costume. I think that's primarily contributing to the weird mass effect feel, in addition to some of the camera and lighting choices.

It'll be hilarious if The Orville is remembered as a Trek show more than Discovery :V

But impossible to evaluate until we see more. Beyond's marketing managed to mangle a pretty good movie.
 
I see that once again, Trek fans love nothing more than to bitch about how much they hate even the slightest change. What we've seen so far fits perfectly well with the aesthetics of both Enterprise and the Kelvin, and complaining about actually being able to spend money on sets and wardrobe is stupid anyway. Of course it looks different than the 1960s. It's not the 1960s any more, or the 1990s. Our ability to portray the future, and what we think it should look like, has changed. Rome looked a lot different than I, Claudius, and Spartacus looked different as well, but no one throws a fit about that.

I assume next someone's going to complain that the Klingons look different while ignoring that they've looked different in every single film and series, including Worf inexplicably metamorphosing between seasons.
 
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I'm actually going to complain about the Klingons looking different... in that none of the Klingons shown has one of the elements that has recurred with male Klingons from Errand of Mercy and all the way on throughout Deep Space Nine. No moustaches. Of course people are going to complain about changes, doesn't mean you can wave away it all as people just hating change for the sake of hating change.
 
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I see that once again, Trek fans love nothing more than to bitch about how much they hate even the slightest change. What we've seen so far fits perfectly well with the aesthetics of both Enterprise and the Kelvin, and complaining about actually being able to spend money on sets and wardrobe is stupid anyway. Of course it looks different than the 1960s. It's not the 1960s any more, or the 1990s. Our ability to portray the future, and what we think it should look like, has changed. Rome looked a lot different than I, Claudius, and Spartacus looked different as well, but no one throws a fit about that.

I assume next someone's going to complain that the Klingons look different while ignoring that they've looked different in every single film and series, including Worf inexplicably metamorphosing between seasons.
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To quote myself:

There is no reason to exactly match the aesthetics of TOS. We have advanced in production standards and quality enough that a one to one translation is stupid. It is supposed to still FIT IN WITH THE FUCKING FRANCHISE IT CLAIMS TO BE. Which means having ships that look like they plausibly came from the era in a way that fits modern technology while still looking right. It means having uniforms that at least vaguely look like the uniforms actually being worn at the time, even if you adjust them to look better. It means having interior color pallettes that at least look like they came from the same organization that was seen in TOS, and trying to do a modern take on the internal structure and design shown onscreen in a way that makes sense, possibly taking cues from the TMP era for providing acceptable kayfabe. It means having controls that at least look like something you could say are modernized showings of the displays and controls seen in TOS.

This doesn't look like Trek. This especially doesn't look like a modern take on TOS. At best, I could stomach it being the Kelvin-timeline, but fucking honestly? It looks more like big-screen Mass Effect than Star Trek.
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The changes here are as insulting and horrible as if Rogue One had all the OT aesthetics removed and replaced with PT aesthetics. When filming something within a franchise set in a certain period of that franchise, you're expected to make a damn good-faith effort to attempt to at least replicate the general feel and intentions of the aesthetics of that time. It doesn't have to be one-to one exact duplications, but you're expected to be able to at least say 'well, it sort of looks like it'. The shit shown looks more like MASS EFFECT than it does Trek, let alone Trek set near 2260. If they can't even put in enough effort to make people go 'yeah, I guess that would be what it looked like if they had the budget and techniques at the time', then they can fuck off.
 
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I see that once again, Trek fans love nothing more than to bitch about how much they hate even the slightest change. What we've seen so far fits perfectly well with the aesthetics of both Enterprise and the Kelvin, and complaining about actually being able to spend money on sets and wardrobe is stupid anyway. Of course it looks different than the 1960s. It's not the 1960s any more, or the 1990s. Our ability to portray the future, and what we think it should look like, has changed. Rome looked a lot different than I, Claudius, and Spartacus looked different as well, but no one throws a fit about that.
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Man, I ain't even complaining about the Klingons, because who cares. It's just the divisional colors are so recognizably "Trek" that they even kept them for the Enterprise era. It's a visual shorthand that's very, very prevelant, and it's absence is felt. I'm very curious as to the thinking behind that choice and willing to give it a chance but it's weird.

This actually feels more like a prequel to the reboots, tbh. Which I don't know why they didn't go with, now that I think about it.
 
Personally I'm gonna pay CBS to watch this because I'm a nerd with spare cash. It looks like fun even if the aesthetic is a bit different than what I'm used to with Trek.
 
Man forget the visuals, that dialogue was so damn awkward it gave me cancer.

I have to wonder if the only reason they released this trailer is because it's kind of sad to be so behind schedule that the Seth MacFarlane parody has released it's trailer ahead of you.
 
Eh, I'll give it a chance if I'm not forced to pay money to see it.

Oh wait, I do?

Well, I guess I'll.... watch it a decade after it goes off the air after a disastrous single season.

First Season Trek is always pretty sad. If it's stuck behind a paywall it's not going to get any momentum to go into a second season.
 
While it is just a trailer, it felt so terribly...generic. As in, it has that same shiny, metallic, lens-flarey aesthetic that every bloody sci-fi film, series, and video game over the past ten years has employed.
 
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