Space Battleship Yamato 2202: Ai no Senshitachi (Soldiers of Love)

They could've cut out fucking Keyman and dedicated all his dumb screentime to Dessler and given him the proper beginnings of redemption (and I mean beginnings, the Dark Nebula plot should be focused on his actual redemption) instead of basically going "HE DID NOTHING WRONG".
 
They could've cut out fucking Keyman and dedicated all his dumb screentime to Dessler and given him the proper beginnings of redemption (and I mean beginnings, the Dark Nebula plot should be focused on his actual redemption) instead of basically going "HE DID NOTHING WRONG".
Agreed considering how much 2202 was singing Dessler's greatness, I wish they gave him more screentime.
Also call me crazy, but the whole Keyman/Yamamato thing felt like it was trying to wipe its hands of the Melda/Yamamoto subtext that 2199 had.
 
I think this ship is a supply ship, which is why it has colouring similar to the Kisaragi and a sealed WMG.
That could be the case, yes. You definitely aren't going to put a supply ship into a combat situation if you can help it. So it doesn't really make much sense to put weaponry or defensive measures on it, beyond the bare necessity.
Hell, modern Naval supply ships basically have no defensive measures, and so few crew that if they do get hit, their course of action is "Abandon Ship" since Damage Control is impossible.

Since this Support Carrier actually has weapons and defenses, it's probably meant for deployment to active combat areas. Maybe it is supposed to supplement fighter cover for smaller task forces that don't warrant diverting one of the Andromeda Carriers for.

Same. 2202 really dropped the ball when it came to him IMO, though 2199 didn't make it easy for them.
They could've cut out fucking Keyman and dedicated all his dumb screentime to Dessler and given him the proper beginnings of redemption (and I mean beginnings, the Dark Nebula plot should be focused on his actual redemption) instead of basically going "HE DID NOTHING WRONG".
Agreed considering how much 2202 was singing Dessler's greatness, I wish they gave him more screentime.
Also call me crazy, but the whole Keyman/Yamamato thing felt like it was trying to wipe its hands of the Melda/Yamamoto subtext that 2199 had.
Meh. I didn't like the pairing, but Keyman is dead now, so it's not a problem for my favorite ship.

And yeah, while it was always going to be a challenge redeeming 2199's version of Desler, their solution felt really contrived and way too close to real life Fascist Apologist arguments for me to actually buy into it.
Only way I can really accept it is the explanation that the justifications are mostly or completely bullshit, and this is just bad people making the "we had to make hard choices" excuses for their actions.
Because while 2202 got really close to giving Desler the same reasons for his actions as OG, they fell just short.
I suppose it was so that future seasons could further revise the lore to differentiate it from OG, but the question still remains of "Why did they need Earth? Why is Gamilas 'dying'? Why was Earth a good substitute if they still needed to terraform it?"
Because unlike OG, we already have the lore that Gamilons and Humans are basically the same species due to being seeded by the same progenitor race, and they're also similar to the dozens of other humanoid races throughout their galaxies.
So with this new lore in mind, why is Gamilas special?

If 2202 actually gave a solid reason, please remind me, because I don't remember.
 
And yeah, while it was always going to be a challenge redeeming 2199's version of Desler, their solution felt really contrived and way too close to real life Fascist Apologist arguments for me to actually buy into it.
"Cool motive. Still genocide," and the new Gamilas government trying and executing Desler would redeem the entire subplot IMO. (Or, more cynically, "We still don't really care about what you did to the client races, but bombarding the homeworld was unforgivable.")

...I don't believe for a second that they'd actually do it, because of how it requires them to kill off their pet character, but that would be the best way to handle it.
 
Meh. I didn't like the pairing, but Keyman is dead now, so it's not a problem for my favorite ship.
For the record, I don't hate Keyman. It's just that something about the way Melda, afemale love interest, was put on a bus and Keyman, an otherwise similar character but male character basically took her place as said love interest in 2202. I'm hoping that 2205 gives some Melda/Yamamoto.

So with this new lore in mind, why is Gamilas special?

If 2202 actually gave a solid reason, please remind me, because I don't remember.
So If I recall, the thing wasn't that garmillas itself was dying but rather it's Sun. If only Garmillas could create artificial suns... Another thing I remember was that the Dessler's didn't want to interbreed with other races, which would be inevitable if they just relocated to a colonised world. so at least part of it was that the Garmilas royal family was horrifically racist. As for the Gamalons can't survive off Garmillas thing, that's just 2202 being dumb.
Now that I'm thinking about it, the whole backstory they cooked up for Dessler actually pisses me off. The Garmillas is dying thing isn't bad on its own, but it's presented in such a way that makes me mad. Babby Dessler, at the age of six or whatever, is forced to sign a blood contract because he happened to oversee his family talking about how the planet is dying. This is a very big secret that's apparently kept secret for the sake of secrecy, and because it's a noble burden or something. Never mind that it would probably be beneficial to your goals to have more people working on the problem. I'm gonna stop here and just say that in short, the way 2202 executes the Grmillas is dying thing is dumb as hell. Don't get me started on the rest of it.
 
For the record, I don't hate Keyman. It's just that something about the way Melda, afemale love interest, was put on a bus and Keyman, an otherwise similar character but male character basically took her place as said love interest in 2202. I'm hoping that 2205 gives some Melda/Yamamoto.
Yuri is love. Yuri is life.

So If I recall, the thing wasn't that garmillas itself was dying but rather it's Sun. If only Garmillas could create artificial suns... Another thing I remember was that the Dessler's didn't want to interbreed with other races, which would be inevitable if they just relocated to a colonised world. so at least part of it was that the Garmilas royal family was horrifically racist. As for the Gamalons can't survive off Garmillas thing, that's just 2202 being dumb.
Now that I'm thinking about it, the whole backstory they cooked up for Dessler actually pisses me off. The Garmillas is dying thing isn't bad on its own, but it's presented in such a way that makes me mad. Babby Dessler, at the age of six or whatever, is forced to sign a blood contract because he happened to oversee his family talking about how the planet is dying. This is a very big secret that's apparently kept secret for the sake of secrecy, and because it's a noble burden or something. Never mind that it would probably be beneficial to your goals to have more people working on the problem. I'm gonna stop here and just say that in short, the way 2202 executes the Grmillas is dying thing is dumb as hell. Don't get me started on the rest of it.
I'm in agreement with you there. While I've softened on the main plot line of the Comet Empire, I'm still pretty dissatisfied with the sub-plots. They feel halfhearted.
It is what it is at this point, but I do hope that 2205 addresses or fixes some of those loose ends.
 
Yuri is love. Yuri is life.

I'm in agreement with you there. While I've softened on the main plot line of the Comet Empire, I'm still pretty dissatisfied with the sub-plots. They feel halfhearted.
It is what it is at this point, but I do hope that 2205 addresses or fixes some of those loose ends.


Agreed. What are you looking forwards to in 2205? I'm hoping we get updated versions of the original unmanned ships. Maybe more of Yuki as a pilot?
 
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Agreed. What are you looking forwards to in 2205? I'm hoping we get updated versions of the original unmanned ships. Maybe more of Yuki as a pilot?
I want to see more of the 2199 side cast. One of the major things that drew me into 2199 (and that 2202 cast aside) was the expanded cast and character-focused storyline.
I'm hoping 2205 does a better job of making the setting feel more alive and vibrant.
 
I want to see more of the 2199 side cast. One of the major things that drew me into 2199 (and that 2202 cast aside) was the expanded cast and character-focused storyline.
I'm hoping 2205 does a better job of making the setting feel more alive and vibrant.
Yeah, same. I hope Yurishia doesn't get killed off, I really liked her, and I'm curious to see how she'll shape the story.
 
I am looking forward to see a longer Dark Nebula arc, hopefully with Gamilas support after the first part of the arc.

Or to flow this into basically a Yamato 3 redo.
 
I excited for more ship designs!

Especially ones not tainted by filigree! :p
Same! I'm also curious as to what they're gonna do with Ginga, now that the Cosmo reverse is kaput. Also, I hope Musashi shows up.

Yeah. Kinda sad, since the filigree wasn't objectively bad in any way. It was just overused to hell and back.
It was fine in 2199, where it was done artfully in places that actually should have had the pattern.
 
Oh, now this is interesting, we have what appears to the first canon appearance of a pre-modernized Kongo class, as well as what seems to a new Earth-Mars war-era battleship!

EDIT: the greenish ship has the hull number 555, it's absolutely a pre-modernized Kirishima.

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The theatrical release of the first 2205 movie has been announced for october 8 ! In addition, this here twitter thread has given us our first images of the CG models for Yamato (not sure if there are any changes from its 2202 version) Dessler's new flagship, the Asuka as well as a new ship, the battlecarrier Hyuga. This design seems to take inspiration from a PS2 game, and features an even larger runway along with a WMG. Sorry Starsha. :p

I'm glad to see the Dreadnought design is getting even more attention, and I do hope this is a sign that the UNCF won't follow its original counterpart's fall into near-irrelevance. I mean, if they're bringing back the good ol' carrier designs for nostalgia they're probably not going to have them blow up at the first battle with the Dark Nebula.
 
The theatrical release of the first 2205 movie has been announced for october 8 ! In addition, this here twitter thread has given us our first images of the CG models for Yamato (not sure if there are any changes from its 2202 version) Dessler's new flagship, the Asuka as well as a new ship, the battlecarrier Hyuga. This design seems to take inspiration from a PS2 game, and features an even larger runway along with a WMG. Sorry Starsha. :p

I'm glad to see the Dreadnought design is getting even more attention, and I do hope this is a sign that the UNCF won't follow its original counterpart's fall into near-irrelevance. I mean, if they're bringing back the good ol' carrier designs for nostalgia they're probably not going to have them blow up at the first battle with the Dark Nebula.
TWO CARRIER DESIGNS!!

WE ARE SO BLESSED!




Also should note that Kodai, Sanada, and Yuki all have captain uniforms.
 
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TWO CARRIER DESIGNS!!

WE ARE SO BLESSED!
Those designs look absolutely amazing. Interesting how the Carrier that seems to be designed for flight operations during combat has their WMG uncovered, whilst the Support Carrier has theirs covered. Yet the Support Carriers have two decks guns whilst the Carrier only has one.
If I had to take a guess, I'd say that the main Carrier design is meant to hang back from the fighting and handle launch operations and command, while also being able to land and resupply fighter craft during combat. The Support Carriers can probably launch aircraft before combat, then act as support units for the frontline.

Also should note that Kodai, Sanada, and Yuki all have captain uniforms.
Please no Yuki strip scene please no Yuki strip scene please no Yuki strip scene
 
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Three, If we're still getting that full deck Dreadnought carrier.
I'd think no, since the Hyuga design looks like a cross between the concept sketch and the OG design.
Not that I would complain if that concept sketch made it into the show as-is. I do love me some full-deck Carriers.

Also these Carrier-conversions of the Dreadnought-class is actually good looking, as opposed to the real-life Ise-class Carrier-conversions, which are cursed as hell.
 
I'd think no, since the Hyuga design looks like a cross between the concept sketch and the OG design.
Not that I would complain if that concept sketch made it into the show as-is. I do love me some full-deck Carriers.
Hope the full deck carrier makes it into the show, it's too good of a design to be left in the drafts.
Also, I just noticed that Hyuga has some cruiser styled torpedo tubes at the bottom of her, hull near the keel.

Also these Carrier-conversions of the Dreadnought-class is actually good looking, as opposed to the real-life Ise-class Carrier-conversions, which are cursed as hell.
Prbably helps that these ships were built from the keel up as battlecarrier variations, and not created by haphazerdly removing the aft turrets of an existing ship for a crude flightdeck.
 
Also, I just noticed that Hyuga has some cruiser styled torpedo tubes at the bottom of her, hull near the keel.
Oh yeah, I see those too.
An... interesting choice. The ship is certainly big enough to house the auto-loader version of the launcher. Why put the expendable one on a Capital ship?
Prbably helps that these ships were built from the keel up as battlecarrier variations, and not created by haphazerdly removing the aft turrets of an existing ship for a crude flightdeck.
Heh. Well, the Asuka design looks like it could have been a conversion from an actual Dreadnought, but there's no way the Hyuga was anything but purpose-built.
 
I wonder how many of the new weapons systems we will see used on Hyuga? And if we will see the close in broadside guns used for once?
 
Watched the film. Essentially a documentary about what happened to Earth and Yamato through the end of the year 2203. Most of the new footage is at the beginning with the background history of Earth until 2199. There are a few other new scenes, most just the interview with Sanada. There are a few new graphics for the battles, usually in the form of maps of unit positions.

But there is something very important added to this film. Dates. While dates in Yamato 2199 could be derived from the "x days left" at the teaser for the next episode, there were hardly any dates for Yamato 2202. Now there are. The story more or less takes place between December 2nd, 2202 and June 2nd, 2203, with the last episode taking place during December of 2203 (the last shot in the story being on December 31st, 2203).
 
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