Snapping Turtle [Naruto SI]
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Ceterum censeo Vigilam esse delendam.
Noburu probably wouldn't know, if you don't, but the metal will also be useful for generating and strengthening reefs of coral, possibly. Electrified reefs are a great way to help coral grow AND keep metal from rusting. Dunno if chakra will have the same effect, or how external the metal will be, but...
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That sounds like something that he might not initially notice, but if he's messing around with coral around metal wrecks he might discover in-universe in a reasonable fashion.
Edit: One possible idea for strengthening the coral later might be to learn to have it attract Natural Energy. Since coral is living, and motionless, it could theoretically be programmed to draw in and strengthen itself as a natural sage ad nauseum. Like, not any time soon, but after a timeskip of 3-5 years...? It would be super cool.
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Ralyx
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Hell, tailed beast chakra naturally boils things - or is it just corrosion? Don't know if the hook seal would allow it, but it would be pretty funny if they had jinchuriki acting as power generators while lazing around or taking a nap.
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I think this would be better without the dangerously
So, boiling seawater. There's a reason that's not a predominant source of drinking water IRL y'know? It's fairly energy intensive, complicated to filter, and very maintenance heavy. And doing it deeply just raises pressure, and therefore the energy needed to boil (well, unless you artificially control pressure, but that it's own host of issues).
Even if chakra is used to boil to water (bypassing a flames consumption of limited oxygen), where is this chakra coming from? The Bijuu? What about when they are not there? Sealing BS could hypothetically solve a lot of these problems in terms of equipment maintenance and power storage...but Sound doesn't really have that kind of research to my knowledge. All of the Hidden Villages have focused their sealing on warfare and the direct support of such, leaving civilian and mundane needs to the Elemental Nations (frankly all over the place) mundane technology.
That could change in time, particularly with whatever pilfered Uzumaki goodies survived time and the dissolution of Kiri, but it would still take time to research and install such measures. In the meantime is one of the Jinchurikki just going to be constantly holding a chakra conducting cable, and the machine shops replacing what boilers are corroded by sea-water and Bijuu chakra?
Long term tidal generators seem much more viable for continuous power-generation, or even geo-thermal if they can convince Isobu to dig a hole and make a hot-spot (though that would be a particularly long and difficult infrastructure project to conduct) it's also (practically) infinite power with no draw on valuable
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This sounds like a job for the Kaguya clan!
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Coral is rock-bone, so it probably has its roots Water Release and in Earth Release. But more than that, it's bone.
So if Noboru wanted to make his coral stronger, he has two paths -->
--> Learn Earth Release techniques;
He's a natural at Water Release and isn't advanced enough to learn Earth yet, but if Earth Release specialists are being brought in to reinforce or replace coral structures he's making, that's yet another easy way to expend huge amounts of Chakra before medical training, and thus an easy way to build up practice using Earth techniques.
--> Make friends with skeletons;
A clan of skeleton people is arriving.
Skeleton people.
Coral is made of calcium. The Kaguya clan knows a thing or two about calcium.
They drink milk, thank you very much.
--Anyway, limestone can survive for decades. It's incredibly durable and very good at withstanding abrasion and the cold. Some of the oldest structures in the world that are still standing were made of or covered in limestone.
If anybody has the ability to build a city with their power, it's Noboru. It's just a matter of time.
Its corrosion due to hatred so I don't think it'll boil the water naturally.
He could hire war vets with missing limbs to learn and use fire release
And geothermal and biothermal energy could be back up sources.
His new village may also attract the attention of a few Uzumaki if they make it clear that they will accept members of any clan as long as they didn't do anything heinous.
He's doing that thing the Japanese wanted to do during WW2, isn't he?
Sinking bunkers into the ocean so they can poke explosives/ambush unauthorized people coming in from the water.
Nope. Its a lot more ambitious than that. Turtle dude is trying to make the Village hidden in Atlantis.
They'd take away the crown and all that would be left is Damsel in Distress.
And now starring Steamboy, the anime. Otogakure turns steampunk. With boil release users inside giant steam punk mecha spiders like in WildWildWest.
They'd demote him further from Damsel to Maido-kun.
Would that be enough though? For 24/7 power like an underwater complex would need? Air filtration, temperature regulation, and lighting aren't exactly insignificant draws, and they would be a constant drain, to say nothing of when the Village installs more modern amenities like home appliances, specialized equipment, and industrial capacity.
Chakra is for the most part a very limited resource among ninja. Maybe a caster Jounin could manage a constant low-intensity expenditure of over a day, but Jounin period are rare, much less those with large reserves. Boiling water to generate power for a complex of thousands that cannot drop below a minimum draw? That's going to take a lot of constant boiling. Only the Jinchurikki have the raw power to pull that off without devoting a significant portion of the population to just boiling water, and they are stuck with only two bodies with which to maintain a constant drain (technically only one, Noburo still being limited by how much chakra he can channel without taking severe damage). Long-term, chakra just isn't viable without extensive sealing (that might make it redundant anyway). Short-term, it barely seems possible if they stick their power-houses on constant heating duty, keep power consumption to the bare minimum, and work on an alternative as fast as possible.
For the immediate future, keeping the generators on a raised or floating platform above water and relying on conventional (coal?) power generation along with an insulated cable seems the most viable. It'd still be a lot of material, but much of that could be recycled once better facilities are set up.
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Thats pretty firmly in the aphotic zone. Are people going to be okay in the dark all the time? It's pretty unhealthy.
It's not harmful in the sense that it's poisonous, more that it's utterly lacking in minerals the body needs. Plus it tends to leech calcium from your teeth. It's safe to drink, but some kind of mineral supplements would be recommended.
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I mean, when it comes to finding a reliable source of pure water you don't need to turn further than simply having some ninja spit up some water jutsu.
If people are uncomfortable drinking ninja spit, then relegate the duty of spitters to the ladies. I guarantee that the complaints from the populace will fall drastically if word got out that the water they drink is actually sexy ninja women spit.
Heck, if Noburu's village survives to Boruto's time, he could even start marketing it as a form of "premier water for gentlemen of refined taste."
Knowing how many men in Naruto are actually perverts, it will sell like hot cakes.
If people are uncomfortable drinking ninja spit, then relegate the duty of spitters to the ladies. I guarantee that the complaints from the populace will fall drastically if word got out that the water they drink is actually sexy ninja women spit.
Heck, if Noburu's village survives to Boruto's time, he could even start marketing it as a form of "premier water for gentlemen of refined taste."
Knowing how many men in Naruto are actually perverts, it will sell like hot cakes.
We don't know the chakra to electricity or fire conversion.
Sasuke was able to pulverize a rock as a genin and it wasn't that hair raising ,so with the right training people should be able to power it.
We also don't know if there is any air/water filtration seals/jutsu exists but it should be possible.
You can probably train your chakra size seeing as Kakashi keeps shooting up in that department, I assume the only limit is time.
And if his village merely patrols its borders and maybe send higher class nin after missing nin/troublesome people.
He'd probably have enough peeps.
Finding a way to siphon chakra off prisoners is also a good idea
He could also make it a graduation requirement like put in however many hours or simply that they should be able to filter out x amount of material in a certain amount of days or consecutively.
Releasing less nin into the world but having them be chakra beasts is a good trade off.
Chairtastic
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That's Kurama, Son Goku, Shukaku, and Gyuki's chakra. Boils things because they want to hate humans to death. Saiken and Isobu's chakra is... spoiler warning, but Noburu and Kousuke would describe it as a warm embrace. Just don't make the bijuu mad, and everything's good.
See, that's the thing. Running chakra through metal somehow gets rid of its impurities and whatever's growing on it -- we see this in the movie where they run chakra through railroad tracks and it causes the thick ice which had grown over the rails -- so thick that you legit couldn't tell where they were -- to melt off, without heat. So if it can do that to ice, it can do that to salt. And yeah, as a power generating source using tidal forces and wind would likely be better -- but they have boilers and turbines from wrecked ships. Gotta use what they've got right now, ya know?
Re: chakra, that's where the Fujimotos come in. Heating up water via boil release takes a fraction of the chakra that fire release jutsu do. It's how the Fujimotos were able to find success in ninjutsu even if their kekkei genkai is at its best when used to augment taijutsu -- they can upgrade their water release jutsu without using nearly as much chakra.
Once Noburu can access Isobu's chakra in large volumes, and he's learned the medical ninjutsu which transfers chakra to a patient, he's going to be able to help out a lot more.
There's the bubble-head jutsu, developed after observing Saiken's jinchuuriki's bubbles over the years. It prompted a whole bubble-themed style of water release jutsu, actually. But back to bubble-head, it's a jutsu which allows people to breathe underwater, and it naturally converts water to air as you swim so you don't run out. Just... don't use any spit-jutsu. It's not advised.
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Ridiculously Average Guy
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They can also use and sell the salt produced for a decent amount of dosh.
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They could also sell water to wind country if they can work out a transportation system.
Ralyx
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To be fair, actually putting the village underwater would be kind of broken in terms of direct defensive capabilities, since really never see any other ninja even attempt underwater combat that I can recall. In some ways it's even more of a paradigm shift than being flight-capable, since most ninja can at least attempt some anti-air projectile defense. The only elemental affinity that would help would be Water - assuming they're deep enough to not affect with Earth jutsu - in which case you'd still be fighting the specialists with their favored element.
You might also be able to tunnel under with enough effort, but that seems like the sort of strategy that likely already has well-established defenses against it, seeing as Iwa hasn't just collapsed every other Village out from under them yet.
You might also be able to tunnel under with enough effort, but that seems like the sort of strategy that likely already has well-established defenses against it, seeing as Iwa hasn't just collapsed every other Village out from under them yet.
Chairtastic
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The shore around where the village is being constructed is inspired by the Grand Turk drop off -- you go out a little past the shore and then the ground just stops. The village is currently being constructed over two thousand feet below the water. Also, I forgot to answer this earlier.
There's going to be some Rapture inspiration in the way of widespread exterior lights combined with interior lights -- but for vitamin D there will be supplements and at least some structures on the shore and higher up along the cliff.
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Could get some sort of 'harvested sunlight' fuckery going on with fuuinjutsu?
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There are plenty of fish that are high in Vitamin D — oranges, soy, and cow milk are rich in the stuff too.
The real problem has little to do with nutrition and lots to do with tight, enclosed spaces.
People don't do well underground, or underwater, for extended periods of time — so there need to be areas that feel like they're outside or above ground to mitigate this. This can be accomplished with perspective tricks, paint, differently colored tiles, and television screen windows. Some of these tricks are employed in old missile silos that were converted to residential areas, for reference.
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Alternatively, it can be accomplished my making an absolutely massive dome so you don't feel enclosed.
Ninja can do underwater combat if I remember correctly Might Guy fought Kisame while underwater for a bit.
Its probably just chakra intensive.
Since water walking can be used to blast the user through water at a target. So they would need to do everything they normally do while swimming, leaking and losing chakra in bursts, they can't use most elemental jutsu, poisons would he stupid to use while in there as well.
Not to mention the Water breathing jutsu would need to be active and stay active.
A direct assault would be a nightmare. Especially if you have sensors stick around the edges of the village.
They would need to starve out Rapture. If they pulled team up with another village they might be able to starve them out assuming the Kiri nin don't just ambushing them from the shore.
Chairtastic
Do you have an idea on when splicing genes would be available? Because a med nin might be able to create mutated plants and animals to improve life in the dome
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Ralyx
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That would also be a nightmare, though - how would they seige an underwater fortification in an archipelago? They'd need to effect widespread famine, or try to ambush supply runners, but that would be way too much coastline to cover.