It was fun while it lasted. Thanks.

It was an honor my man. Not to say anything, but my current avatar is the background for my phone. This quest holds a really special place in my heart and I'm sad that I don't feel the same drive as I did before. Hope you catch the next thing that I do.

What was the original core idea that inspired you to start this quest? Do you feel like you accomplished what you set out to write or do you feel like that goal is a hundred chapters away from coming to fruition?

The original concept was that, at the first time that I came up with the idea: I had just finished reading WORM, I joined the Parahuman discord and I waited for WARD to start. I wanted to make a quest that had a major player. Like, WORM is the story were Talyor came from nothing and became a warlord, but I wanted to make a story where the person had a power that was respected or feared. Full disclosure, I was kinda hoping you guys would choose the third option.

For context:
] Someone who really knew how to run a business. Superheroes and other such things were all fine and dandy, but the world still moved on. What better way to help it move by keeping the corporate machine running? It got you into contact with a... darker crowd. They offered you much, but they took much as well.

This option had a lot of potential for you guys to be on some All For One level shit, making your own parahuman organization and being one of the true first S class threats. Originally, I was going to flip a coin that if you chose this, you would be either Symphony or Oracle. With hindsight, I probably would've forced you to be Symphony because at the time, I hadn't finalized Oracle's power and once it was made I couldn't make a quest out of that.

And to answer your second question, I think I did. As I said, I think the end of London was the best part because at that point it's a complete story. Alex went from a kid that couldn't do anything right to being the piller that helps new Parahuman's accept who and what they are. He didn't become the true shining example that he could've been, but I'm satisfied with the choices in the thread made to bring Alex to that point.

What ideas or suggestions did you feel passionate about that just didn't make it into Shining Example?

Oh jesus where do I begin?

The number of jokes that I planned on having Charles just whip out to style all over Manton had to be thrown in the trash so many times. Had you guys chosen to be with Manton after London, you would've worked with him and Charles to name the different power styles. You could've, through write in, made new names for the different power types. Charles would meme on you no matter what you chose, but it was the thought that counts. I prewrote a scene where Alex is watching Manton slowly concider homicide as Charles' memes get to much for him.

The next one that really, really saddened me was that you guys didn't pick Rebecca to be your trainer when Alex first resolved himself to use his powers to be someone. She would've beaten the ever-loving crap out of you and had a minor freak out that she hurt you, and later in the story Alex would have the chance to console her, telling her that just because she has to watch her strength around most people, she didn't have to worry about him, echoing the line that Alex couldn't hurt her after his first true kill with the handyman (His name was Martin Wilmes, and if you ran away from the fight he would've joined the Nine under the name Baba-Yega). Had a lot of cute stuff planned for that choice, but alas, it was never meant to be.

There was going to be a moment that, if Alex chose to go back to his family, Clint would tear him down for doing something so stupid as saving the world (Guy is actually just jelous that his brother is so much more sucessful than him and is masking it) and everyone in the Cauldron crew would come to his aid. The most vocal critic would be David and Rebecca. David believing that despite how stupid Alex is for being nice, has balls of steel for wiling to fight him and fly into London without a second thought. A lot more than anyone in Alex's family could say.

Alex would've met Armsmaster, Chevalier, and Miss Militia if he helped Matthew with his shit. Arms would've been memed on by Danah, and Chevalier was going to be star struck with Atlas. (guy is a fanboy of Alex's because of London)

But the one that really irked was Manton. You would've been ground zero with Manton explaining how parahuman's worked and government's reaction to them, even giving an example. It would've endeared you to him, and Alex would've had the chance to defend Manton and his work when his wife came calling. He wouldn't be in the right, not calling and really thinking about his family and it would've allowed the two to empathize over their similar family situations, Alex being an early version of Manton.

Also you guys didn't go nano machine tinker, this would've turned into a meme quest so fast.

And if you had Eidolon's power ... god the Endbringers would pop out within the year.

There were a few others, but it's been too long since I really thought about them so I can't really recall them.

E: But at least tell us whats going on in this arc that literally just started.

I'll get to that, I need to drag and redo these notes my man.

I'm curious as to how you expected Scion fight to go down.

It depended on a lot of factors. For one, the fight itself depended heavily on how you guys characterized Alex and how much he used his power. The Shard he got was the WARDEN, a shard marked with the "Never give this out" type that Eden really didn't have a say in being brain dead. The main function of the shard was to regulate how much power the shards could output at one time, setting their limits and eventually, breaking those limits when given instructions by the Faire Queen.

If Alex survied the initial battle, where he would be there to see Eidolon be killed (That was pretty set in stone unless a lot of things happened), he would learn how to do that and the jailbroken powers would have a chance to gang rush Scion and kill him.

There were a few others notes on what would've happened, considering that there was a pretty good chance that with how you were playing Alex, the Endbringers would still spawn.

Alex would even be able to hear the line that Scion would've said to Eidolon to break his will. The golden god would look at Alex, then look to David and say "They were never enough for you."

Another route had Alex pushing Eidolon out of the way (Since david would be using a power that resisted his fuck you beam of stilling since they faught Symphony and wouldn't be able to be moved by Alex) and get shot. Alex would slowly die, and Eidolon would be pushed by outside pressures to drain Alex of his shards power, and from there....

Holy hell I would've gone ham writing that fight.

I also had a really cool idea of Atlas and Symphony riding Behemoth's sholders. The endbringer would manipulate the waves so both of them could go max for as long as they want and Behemoth has enough energy obsorbed to just constantly firing plasma to the point of igniting the atmostphere.

Literally Shining Examples walking flying death star.

But at the end of the day, it was a long ways off so I didn't put too much thought into it beyond what I thought would be cool.

1) ̶I̶ ̶M̶U̶S̶T̶ ̶K̶N̶O̶W̶ ̶A̶B̶O̶U̶T̶ ̶T̶H̶E̶ ̶W̶A̶I̶F̶U̶ *Ahem* I mean, how would you have handled the relationship with Rebecca? It seemed that we were nearing a breaking point given her reaction to the true depth of Atlas' issues; what sort of event did you plan out around that if any? Were there any other revelations after/ if we successfully worked through that?
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I feel like this is the main reason people stayed. :V

It was going to happen in the next chapter, but Alex was going to bring the fallout of the talk with Danah to her and she would react... poorly to say the least. Nonetheless, she would insist that she join Alex and David's patrols in an attempt to keep an eye on him. During those hunts, they would bounce off one another and the plan was after a shift, the two of them would fly up to a skyscraper, take their masks off and have a talk. Rebecca would critizize Alex for his recluse behavior and Alex would remark that it would be better that if he got hurt instead of her. Rebecca wouldn't take that well, saying that Alex needs to save the world.

To which Alex would say, "Maybe I don't want to save the world if you're not in it."

Mushy talk later, they would date in earnest, leaning on one another and helping one another out as much as they could. Rebecca would do the thinking, and Alex would keep her in check. Both of them have issues, but at the end of the day, they make one another better. Rebecca forces Alex to think things through instead of throwing waves and hoping for the best, and Alex is a constant reminder for Rebecca not to simply let her agent do all the thinking and go with gut instincts. There would be a legit danger of Rebecca falling so far that she would become the logic machine that we see in canon, but I don't think that would've happened if you kept up your choices.

There would be an event where Rebecca slides really far and tries to break things off over the fact that, at the end of the day, she doesn't age and Alex does. The age-old, immortal loving a mortal kinda thing and Rebecca would have some serious issues going through that.

Doctor Mother was going to be revealed to encourage Rebecca's feelings for Alex, tying the two of them together and use her affection for him to manipulate Alex if the need arisen. Cause Alex might have a moral compass, but if Doctor Mother convinced Rebecca, she would have no problem getting Alex on board as well. Depending on how that went down, things might've just spiraled into canon bleakness.

And lastly, they could've had children yes, a daughter. I would've handwaved the weird shit that was Rebecca's biology because at the end of the day, they had Cauldron, it wouldn't be too much of an issue. If I'm going to do another quest, odds are it'll be in the future with her as a main character if not the PC.

2) What was Oracle's power? You mentioned once that it scared you just as much as Fortuna's, which is no mean feat. How would you have used him- as a semi-plot device like OTL Contessa or as a player in his own right?

He has Scion's Path to Victory Shard. He asks a question and he gets the perfect answer depending on the situation at hand. His information was limited to what the other shards knew. He was paid to have the perfect counter to anything that Symphony would have to face during his takeover of London. Remember when Symphony was looking through his book and complained that Alex wasn't in it? Oracle didn't plan on Alex showing up because he hadn't triggered yet and therefore didn't have any information to go on.

An entire arc was planned for you guys having the chance to bring him to Cauldron and his power would interact with Fortuna in a way no one would expect, their powers would shut off. In the presence of Oracle, Contessa couldn't do a thing because the powers would cancle themselves out. That lead to an entire arc where Fortuna had the chance to come into her own without the path. After that, he was going to be the information broker, helping set up the PRT and agreeing with Doctor Mother in most arguments. She's cold, but she makes a lot of good points.

The guy would also meme on alex so hard.

Going forward, he would be one of the first people that Scion killed once the golden bastard came back to collect shards.

3) Probably a massive Cliché, but as a fanboy completionist: Did the quest ever have a true 'Final Boss' as Zion was for Worm? If not, did you have plotlines prepared beforehand or were you going to build the story around player decisions?

Scion was a possibility, but the main fanal boss wasn't set in stone. I had a plan where Alex's actions triggered a war with China and world war three became world war parahuman and after that the quest would end. Or, if certain things happened, Zion would pop out and start wrecking shit. Or even more, a final, destructive war with the nine was planned, their members varying depending on the choices (A possibility was for Symphony to join the nine, they were going to break him out of the prison that he's being held out because Jacob needs another big gun beyond Greyboy)

If you want a sequel quest, it would be pretty easy to have an AU Taylor quest (though I would prefer Alexandria or Armsmaster as the protagonist). I personally would like the premise of 'older Atlas tossed into Canon' , if not as a quest than a one-shot (I am would be honoured to attempt an omake for this with your permission!)

Hmm... I wouldn't be against this. First thing that comes to mind is just a sequal quest as discussed above but this sounds nice not going to lie.

If you want to write an Omake of an older Alex showing up in cannon worm, I would love to see it. Feel free to write it, PM me the result, or better yet post it here so everyone can enjoy it.

Edit: I too would love to see the dev notes if possible!

I'd love to see your notes, Boss.

Welp, better start getting those out. I'll be fixing those up and throwing them here in a bit. This post is getting pretty long and those need to be organized.
 
Rebecca, how long until she lost her humanity and got 'set' to the point she couldn't develop

Was their any way to stop this fully? Or reversed it?

When would Alex and Rebecca have gotten together? Was their an office betting pool?

Would Rebecca and Alex's kids be second generation Parahuman? Their parents were artificially made, but would it pass down?

Would Alex and a Rebecca have been good parents?

Sandstorm seemed to be made of Nanites, is that why he was predicted to be so dangerous, the guy who could kill Alex?

Sandstorms group, what was it about? What were it's true aims and resources?

Symphonies Legacy, what would it have truly been? You said S Class' would be named for Symphony, but what was the cultural and media impact long term of his actions?

Brockton Bay, we took out most of the Empire, how would it have ended up?

Endbringers, don't have to say any more really. There's about a hundred questions explicit in just mentioning info about what would've happened with them in the future.

How could we have beaten Scion? Was there more hidden power in the Intensity Shard? Is that how we were supposed to beat him back?

The Group Of Seers and Thinkers, what was their agenda? What did they want? Why did they help us and why did one of them screw with Rebecca whilst Alex spoke to his brother?

New Wave, would it have formed and grown in a similar matter here? Or not?

Panacea and Glory Girl especially get attention, mainly because I play CK2 and getting them with Alex and Rebecca's kids if they truly were 2nd Gen Parahumans would've ensured such badarse grandkids.

Jack Slash, would he have triggered Scion early, or did we have the ability to delay him and make sure the schedule from Fortuna, where he tried to destroy the world decades after he actually did, was accurate in this timeline?

So this madlad PM'd this to me, and I didn't even know it was there. But I promised to answer this!

  1. Rebecca had a bit longer before she went full computer logic as I said before.
  2. The way to stop it fully was to take some of the burden, bouncing ideas off her and forcing Alex to be her intellectual equal instead of letting her think of everything. Things would've been very controlling for the two if that happen.
  3. Alex and Rebecca would've gotten together yes, I wasn't going to stop considering the thread's reaction to the idea as a whole. Also, I shipped it too so... yeah.
  4. There was a betting pool. Charles' started it. The only ones who didn't have a stake in it were fortuna and Doctor Mother, they weren't interested. Charles was going to win, he asked Contessa to give him a timeframe before he started it.
  5. The question of parents would have to be saved for the sequal if there is one. Not going to say right now with it being up in the air.
  6. Sandstorm is part of a group known as the Singularity. They're the toybox on crack, built on making the best tinker tech weaponry. They were an arms manufacturer, aiming to corner the market and if push came to shove, Jack Slash would've tricked them into making weapons that started the parahuman world war. At the end of the day, joining the singularity would be like joining the NBA for tinkers. Only the best of the best came in, and they worked on projects that would lead to some... interesting things. They've got their pocket dimension to work with, but they're just arms dealers, not Moriarty. They do their thing and go ham when Endbringer's show up. (Had an event where the ziz took over the dimention and turned them into her personal army)
  7. He is. His body is stored in a pod and he controls a hive mind of nanites that change into different shapes depending on what he made. (Side note, Alex had a chance at having this power, as the vial used to make sandstorm was sold to the singularity during Alex's coma by doctor mother) Sandstorm was going to be paid by one of All Father's more zealous followers to kill Atlas and he would've done it. Alex can only move what he can perceive, and Sandstorm would simply trickle enough nanobots into Alex's bloodstream by having them hitching a ride on his breath and just stop his heart or something. Thankfully, when this was going to come to pass, David was on hand to get Alex out of it since he chose to be bros with David and fly around the country beating the shit out of parahumans.
  8. Symphony would be the first S class villain, that was fact. He would go down in the history books as the only Blaster 12 to ever live. His manifesto of parahuman's being the best would inspire a lot of villains to take their shot, and a lot of governments to get off their asses and do something about parahumans. He would be the Hilter of parahumans, an example of just how far someone could go if their powers aren't used for the right reasons. (Side note: Alex probably wouldn't have remembered him like this. At the end of this arc, Alex would've been invited into Symphony's prison the day before he was sentenced to death as his last request. Symphony would explain that he triggered during the ferry ride over the atlantic where Scion first appeared and the fear of what that thing was along with his own fears of his newfound power encuraged him to think of a way to force the world to recognize that parahumans existed. The entire point of London was a show, to wake up the world and show the dangers of what parahumans can do as what they were capable of being. Like some said, where is the camera at the end of Symphony's fight. You were right, there were camera's showing Atlas, rising up to fight Symphony and winning as well as accepting his surrender. Symphony would remark that everything worked out perfectly, the world sees parahumans as a threat, and Alex and company are seen as heroes, which is a step in the right direction. What happened after that depending on the vote.)
  9. The Teeth would take over the city. It would still be pretty bad, but unless Alex was blind to Doctor Mother's plans for the city, it would've been manageable.
  10. Chances are they would've happened. Alex would outshine David so much in the public eye that simply sparing wouldn't be enough. David needed to be seen as better than Alex and unless they had some really hard hitting conversations, they were coming. I even had an original endbringer that would've made a splash but alas.
  11. As I said before, the Intensity or Warden shard could eventually jailbreak other shards. Take from that what you will.
  12. Group of thinkers? Who? I'm blanking.
  13. Don't know, they were up in the air and to be honest, I don't have too many notes on them beyond their names showing up once or twice.
  14. Jack would probably cause armagedon the same as he did, that didn't change.
Tried to list the questions in order. If I didn't, sorry, but hope that clears a few things up.
 
Group of thinkers? Who? I'm blanking.
Richard has a group of Thinkers working with him I believe.
Nope, she's a stranger. She triggered after Alex got admitted into the hospital and got the terminal diagnosis.

Heartbreaker is in Canada right now I think.
Stranger? What power did she have? Did she really get married in such a weird way when underaged? Was Alex really that isolated?
 
Mmm, that makes me wonder, would Rebecca's logic engine Brain no sell his Master ability?

Just imaging a scene where he thinks he's gonna get one of the Founders as a Waifu, only for her to be her usual brutal self.
Or she plays along with it, lets him get nice and upclose.....

Then makes him sing soprano with one good punch.
 
Richard has a group of Thinkers working with him I believe.

Oh those. Same thing as him. Don't have too many notes on them.

Stranger? What power did she have? Did she really get married in such a weird way when underaged? Was Alex really that isolated?

She manipulates people's perception of her to make it seem like she's correct. You can't say no to her, her power messes with you to the point that you eventually take her words as gospel. Clint made her trigger as she tried desperately to fathom a way that Alex would be alright but Clint kept pushing that Alex was going to die and she needed to come to terms with that. She didn't.

She did, from her point of view, it's a very nice, loving relationship. Let's not break out the psychology books for the guy though.

And Alex was in another dimension so... I'd say so.
 
What was your take on PtV? How accurate was it, and what, outside of shard bullshit, could interfere with it's results? Were there any cracks in it's abilities? My personal view (one which I surprisingly haven't seen echoed anywhere, surprisingly enough) was always that PtV was inherently flawed in it's methodology due to A) the basal nature of shards as aggressive hard-coded machines, and B) Eden tampering with it as a last Fuck You to the planet, or as some plan.
 
What was your take on PtV? How accurate was it, and what, outside of shard bullshit, could interfere with it's results? Were there any cracks in it's abilities? My personal view (one which I surprisingly haven't seen echoed anywhere, surprisingly enough) was always that PtV was inherently flawed in it's methodology due to A) the basal nature of shards as aggressive hard-coded machines, and B) Eden tampering with it as a last Fuck You to the planet, or as some plan.

As far as the quest goes, it uses information gathered from all the shards to essentially act as a supercomputer to calculate the best possible course to complete the path set by the user. If the shards had no information on the task at hand, it couldn't do anything.
 
Oh those. Same thing as him. Don't have too many notes on them.



She manipulates people's perception of her to make it seem like she's correct. You can't say no to her, her power messes with you to the point that you eventually take her words as gospel. Clint made her trigger as she tried desperately to fathom a way that Alex would be alright but Clint kept pushing that Alex was going to die and she needed to come to terms with that. She didn't.

She did, from her point of view, it's a very nice, loving relationship. Let's not break out the psychology books for the guy though.

And Alex was in another dimension so... I'd say so.


Huh, so our sister was the cape. Although it sounds like her power was in that gray area between master and stranger -- if she can mess with your head until you accept her words as gospel she can eventually get you to act as she wants you to.
 
Huh, so our sister was the cape. Although it sounds like her power was in that gray area between master and stranger -- if she can mess with your head until you accept her words as gospel she can eventually get you to act as she wants you to.

Yeah it's a gray area, but I think it's more on the stranger side of things so that's where she's going. Either way, putty in her hands if she talks to you long enough.
 
Yeah it's a gray area, but I think it's more on the stranger side of things so that's where she's going. Either way, putty in her hands if she talks to you long enough.

The funny thing is, people can do that in real life already through gaslighting or pure charisma. There are some pretty fucked up true stories about people twisting those around them through sheer force of personality, even while being, and perhaps partially because they are unstable and violent. That kind of Cult Leader persona is pretty scary, and their ability to warp the perception of reality means they can organize and reach whatever goals they may have with terrifying efficiency, especially since most, if not all, are parahuman level neurotic/fucked in the head one way or another. For every Steve Jobs pushing consumer technology into a new era, you have a slew of cult leaders, warlords, and psychotic roommates, all of whom inevitably drag down those around them into the abyss with them.
 
I prewrote a scene where Alex is watching Manton slowly concider homicide as Charles' memes get to much for him.
Not at all based on your experience with thread at all.
The next one that really, really saddened me was that you guys didn't pick Rebecca to be your trainer when Alex first resolved himself to use his powers to be someone. She would've beaten the ever-loving crap out of you and had a minor freak out that she hurt you, and later in the story Alex would have the chance to console her, telling her that just because she has to watch her strength around most people, she didn't have to worry about him, echoing the line that Alex couldn't hurt her after his first true kill with the handyman (His name was Martin Wilmes, and if you ran away from the fight he would've joined the Nine under the name Baba-Yega). Had a lot of cute stuff planned for that choice, but alas, it was never meant to be.
Awwwww.
Mushy talk later, they would date in earnest,
We were so close. :cry::cry::cry:
He has Scion's Path to Victory Shard.
Is Dinah Alcott a bud of his or did he die and shes the next host, or are you reworking her power?
Charles was going to win, he asked Contessa to give him a timeframe before he started it.
Path to Shipping.

Anyway I take it all back. You're not allowed to quit this thread until I see all of those awesome scenes you laid out. Sorry I guess you'll just have to keep writing.
 
It was fun while it lasted. Thanks.
Okay, I know this is the last thing that you probably want to hear from me, but I'm going to stop Shining Example.

I started writing this almost two years ago, and it's been a lot of fun. However, right now, I find myself dreading writing another update. I'm holding myself to a standard that I don't remember having and it's making every chance that I get to write feel like a chore instead of fun. As much as I want to see the plans that I have be realized, I refuse to force out a product that I'm not satisfied with.

That being said, thanks to everyone that's been here for the two book journey that this thing made. Honestly, while it has it's problems, I personally think that this story up to the end of London is my best work on this site. As such, if you guys want, I'm willing to post all of my notes and answering any questions that you might have about this story. And, if you guys really want it, after a bit of rest on my part, I wouldn't be against making another WORM quest with Atlas within it. Maybe not as the staring role, but as a character none the less.

So as I said, I invite any and all questions, thoughts on the story, memes or interest on another Shining Example.

I was wondering what powerd the other vials would have given us?

Thank you for an awesome story while it lasted! Id love to see another worm quest coming from you.
 
She manipulates people's perception of her to make it seem like she's correct. You can't say no to her, her power messes with you to the point that you eventually take her words as gospel. Clint made her trigger as she tried desperately to fathom a way that Alex would be alright but Clint kept pushing that Alex was going to die and she needed to come to terms with that. She didn't.

She did, from her point of view, it's a very nice, loving relationship. Let's not break out the psychology books for the guy though.

And Alex was in another dimension so... I'd say so.

Well well well. In a twist that I was half-expecting but misjudged horribly, Danah triggered but was not secretly a villain (I thought that she was a Tinker with a hypnosis speciality). Hooray for my paranoia not being vindicated! On the other hand, why did she not notify Legend of her powers? I understand falling out with Clint and running away, and perhaps not speaking out before Symphony, but really there doesn't seem to be a good reason not to talk to the Founders about it later, especially given that the prejudice against Masters/Strangers is not as bad as it would be at almost any other point in time. Given how much the Alex she knew looked up to heroes of all kinds, I'd have expected her to be first in line as a top tier 'social thinker'.

Edit: And from that description of her power, it seems like she'd notice something was off very quickly. I get 'young and in love' for a while, but NO human being would ever constantly agree like what her husband would do after a while- and thats not considering the many , MANY ways to instantly out herself. What if she mistakenly told him (or really, anyone else), say, "its cloudy outside" and the sky was clear? Either she or he would immediately notice something was up, and if their relationship was as loving as she thinks it was there would have been discussion about finding a way to control or suppress her power. In fact, the more I think about it the more I disagree with you here, as the only way for nobody to notice her newfound 'charisma' would be for her to strategically brainwash them insisting that she has no powers, a deliberate act of villainy. Perhaps she had no idea she was a Parahuman at all @IKnowNothing ?

Mmm, that makes me wonder, would Rebecca's logic engine Brain no sell his Master ability?

Just imaging a scene where he thinks he's gonna get one of the Founders as a Waifu, only for her to be her usual brutal self.

Possible, but unlikely. while a lot of Rebecca's brain functions are offloaded to her Shard, not all of them are. She still 'died' in canon from the supply of Oxygen to her brain being cut off, so if even one emotional centre remains to be controlled, she's doomed. Worse yet, he probably also has an emotional sensing power like most of his children. If so, he'd detect her unique emotional signature (or glaring lack of it) the second she came into range and flee.

In canon, Nikos Vasil was classified as 'too dangerous to fight', and even Alexandria stayed away from him; so either he could control her (or one of his children could) or, well, they ignored him 'for the Greater Good'*. Whatever the case, the best scenario here would be a supersonic flyby, giving Rebecca enough speed to pulp his head and leave before he can react, which is aided by the fact that his range is smaller than any of his children's (at best Line of Sight, which is easily worked around).

*Edit 2 (I'm sorry about this):



Edit 3: One thing I would like to see though (I SUMMON @Omakewriters OF THE THREAD!), is an IC newspaper article on Atlas (an obituary, or just an abridged biography- maybe an article on the Founders swearing themselves to the fledgling Protectorate or Taylor fanboying over him in the future? Or even *horror* the Atlas PHO thread!). It'll be a great send-off for the character and a way to show us all that we've accomplished during this quest through the eyes of the civilians of Earth-Bet(a) ̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶a̶ ̶g̶r̶e̶a̶t̶ ̶s̶t̶a̶r̶t̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶p̶o̶i̶n̶t̶ ̶f̶r̶o̶m̶ ̶w̶h̶i̶c̶h̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶s̶h̶o̶v̶e̶ ̶h̶i̶m̶ ̶i̶n̶t̶o̶ ̶c̶a̶n̶o̶n̶ ̶h̶e̶h̶e̶h̶e̶h̶e̶
 
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Really sad to see this go, hope you can get inspiration for a new quest in the future, remember to put a link here if that's the case! :p
 
Not at all based on your experience with thread at all.

You were in my mind as I wrote every word.

Is Dinah Alcott a bud of his or did he die and shes the next host, or are you reworking her power?

A bud of his, he gets the answer of what would be the best for the situation that he's in, her power is more refined to the point that she can give actual percents. Oracle is honestly crippled by the fact that he gets the best answer in the moment, he has a lot of holes, only problem is that he constantly asks questions, guys head is a steel trap.

I was wondering what powerd the other vials would have given us?

Thank you for an awesome story while it lasted! Id love to see another worm quest coming from you.

Glad you enjoyed it.

I had a post early in the thread in the informational section. The one titled "What could have been" lists what the other vial powers would've been. Give it a look.

Edit: And from that description of her power, it seems like she'd notice something was off very quickly. I get 'young and in love' for a while, but NO human being would ever constantly agree like what her husband would do after a while- and thats not considering the many , MANY ways to instantly out herself. What if she mistakenly told him (or really, anyone else), say, "its cloudy outside" and the sky was clear? Either she or he would immediately notice something was up, and if their relationship was as loving as she thinks it was there would have been discussion about finding a way to control or suppress her power. In fact, the more I think about it the more I disagree with you here, as the only way for nobody to notice her newfound 'charisma' would be for her to strategically brainwash them insisting that she has no powers, a deliberate act of villainy. Perhaps she had no idea she was a Parahuman at all @IKnowNothing ?

You really abused that nail hitting it right on the head.

But you got it in one, she didn't know that she had a power until London was broadcast. She's always had a charisma about her, and she was extremely likable before she triggered.

The funny thing is, people can do that in real life already through gaslighting or pure charisma. There are some pretty fucked up true stories about people twisting those around them through sheer force of personality, even while being, and perhaps partially because they are unstable and violent. That kind of Cult Leader persona is pretty scary, and their ability to warp the perception of reality means they can organize and reach whatever goals they may have with terrifying efficiency, especially since most, if not all, are parahuman level neurotic/fucked in the head one way or another. For every Steve Jobs pushing consumer technology into a new era, you have a slew of cult leaders, warlords, and psychotic roommates, all of whom inevitably drag down those around them into the abyss with them.

As @Argidoll points out, this was Danah, though not as egregious. She's not making cults around her.

Edit 3: One thing I would like to see though (I SUMMON @Omakewriters OF THE THREAD!), is an IC newspaper article on Atlas (an obituary, or just an abridged biography- maybe an article on the Founders swearing themselves to the fledgling Protectorate or Taylor fanboying over him in the future? Or even *horror* the Atlas PHO thread!). It'll be a great send-off for the character and a way to show us all that we've accomplished during this quest through the eyes of the civilians of Earth-Bet(a) ̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶a̶ ̶g̶r̶e̶a̶t̶ ̶s̶t̶a̶r̶t̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶p̶o̶i̶n̶t̶ ̶f̶r̶o̶m̶ ̶w̶h̶i̶c̶h̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶s̶h̶o̶v̶e̶ ̶h̶i̶m̶ ̶i̶n̶t̶o̶ ̶c̶a̶n̶o̶n̶ ̶h̶e̶h̶e̶h̶e̶h̶e̶



This.

Not going to lie, I would love to see this. If you have any questions, feel free to ask. If I could help this come true, I would be honored to give whatever I need.

Really sad to see this go, hope you can get inspiration for a new quest in the future, remember to put a link here if that's the case! :p

If a squeal and or other project comes in I'll be sure to post it here for you guys.
 
Path to Shipping.

Anyway I take it all back. You're not allowed to quit this thread until I see all of those awesome scenes you laid out. Sorry I guess you'll just have to keep writing.

You know what? I thought I couldn't write this, but clearly I was simply ignoring my true calling! Muse! What say you!?



... welp, guess my hands are tied, sorry. :V
 
But you got it in one, she didn't know that she had a power until London was broadcast. She's always had a charisma about her, and she was extremely likable before she triggered.

As @Argidoll points out, this was Danah, though not as egregious. She's not making cults around her.

Don't get me wrong, that explains a lot, but it still leaves out the question of why she didn't sign up AFTER London; she still could have done so at any point between then and no and didn't. hat motivated her to keep it to herself?

As for being a cult-leader style demagogue, it should be noted that most people with that kind of infectious charisma usually stood for something, and used their skills in service to a compelling idea. As likeable as Dana is, I just don't see nobody noticing that nobody tells her no. Maybe she was constantly moving and thus having new people so her power never had time to fully come into effect?


You know what? I thought I couldn't write this, but clearly I was simply ignoring my true calling! Muse! What say you!?



... welp, guess my hands are tied, sorry. :V

.....

..please don't toy with my heart like that :cry:


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Not going to lie, I would love to see this. If you have any questions, feel free to ask. If I could help this come true, I would be honored to give whatever I need.

In which case, perhaps a general overview of the Founders, both when they were a standalone team and when they joined (if they joined) the protectorate-expy? For instance, Legend was always seen as head of the protectorate and a true hero while Alexandria and Eidolon were more forces of nature that would summarily obliterate wrongdoers. How did Atlas and his butterflies affect these dynamics? I could see leadership contested between Atlas and Legend for example.

What would the name be of the superhero team the Founders established?

Do you have any ideas as to what Atlas' most impressive feats could be?

How 'Active' and wide-ranging would Atlas be? Would he stick to a single city like Alexandria, or act as a rapid-response heavyweight like Dragon?

I have other questions for my Atlas in Canon piece, but i'll PM them to you later
 
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And for my next trick......

I'll be pretty busy for the rest of today, but I wanted to submit a potential power for the MC's daughter that felt so appropriate for me. Its still pretty bare-bones, but I'll be happy if it provides even the tiniest bit of inspiration!

Name: ??? (my personal choice would be Alexa given the strength of our MC's whipping. If anyone comes up with a better name, it'll be Rebecca's choice after a stern lecture on naming sense).

Cape name: Hespera (greek for 'Light of the Evening'). Hespera is often labelled as the oldest daughter of Atlas, a title that has sometimes been attributed to Calypso as well. It fits the 'Greek Legend' theme of Atlas and Alexandria too!

Shard ID: [Rayshifter] (IMO, an Eden-influenced Abbaddon shard)

Power: Hespera's power is one of the greatest ever seen, and as such contains several subcomponents.

1. Hespera has a form of pericognition, making her passively aware of the existence of everything within range of her senses in an almost radius of detection

2. Hespera may focus in on an object within her radius to instantaneously view its 'timeline' (i.e. she gets data on every possible state of its existence through its history and into its future). The longer she focuses on an object (or the more information she has on it beforehand) the easier it is to view its 'timeline' in more detail. If she knows enough about its workings, she can even construct 'alternate timelines' for less likely futures of the object.

(mechanically, users can select an object and you present one or two 'likely' timelines for it. A write-in timeline could be accepted, but the more unlikely it is the more time it takes to construct, with the 'base timeline' viewed instantaneously)

(For extra fun, I'd eliminate the manton limit and have Hespera able to view the timeline of a person, granting her a form of thinker power by reconstructing their past and predicting their most probable actions in the future. note that she can only focus on one 'object' at a time and only gains context after a period of observation. That is to say, a glance may tell her that someone will have a broken wrist in a day, but she'll need to actually focus to understand that he will be punching a gang member during an attempted mugging).

3. Once viewed, Hespera may displace the object along the viewed timeline in either direction, though large temporal jumps may require a moment to gather energy. This is in my opinion the flashiest bit of her power, since she can revert nearly any danger into a harmless state. Fire? collapses into fuel and oxygen. A bullet? bursts into a puff of iron-rich soil. Ice? turns to water or steam. Better yet, she could jump them into the future (e.g. 'cooking off' a grenade about to be thrown at her, emptying the magazine of a gun about to be fired). With enough focus, she can find a timeline with effect more advantageous to her (rather than cooking off, she finds a timeline where the grenade is a dud and the gun jams). It is generally faster to displace an object backwards than forwards as looking into the future takes a bit more focus.

Once again, I'd get rid of the Manton limit to unleash the TRUE CHEESE of this power, which makes her both a devastating offensive juggernaut and an insanely effective healer, rewinding the body to before an injury occurred (though limited by her ability to 'grasp' the idea of a whole body part) and only being able to heal one injury at a time (that is to say, the only person she knows well enough to 'reset' to a perfect state consistently is herself. While the potential for Resurrection is there, I'd have the shard recognise 'sapient life' as a particular state, so using her power on a dead body will produce the timeline of a dead body, up to just after the moment of death. Perhaps if 'jailbroken' this could be attempted? On the flipside, I doubt anyone will miss the offensive applications of being able to age someone to death with a look. With this said, she is not unbeatable- she must focus on one object at a time, and may not always make the optimal choices for timeline displacements.
 
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Don't get me wrong, that explains a lot, but it still leaves out the question of why she didn't sign up AFTER London; she still could have done so at any point between then and no and didn't. hat motivated her to keep it to herself?

As for being a cult-leader style demagogue, it should be noted that most people with that kind of infectious charisma usually stood for something, and used their skills in service to a compelling idea. As likeable as Dana is, I just don't see nobody noticing that nobody tells her no. Maybe she was constantly moving and thus having new people so her power never had time to fully come into effect?

Oh no, good questions my only weakness! :V

But to answer your question, to put it simply, she was scared. London was literally a showing of just how powerful parahumans could be, and right now, the only parahumans that were being accepted were the Founders. She joined up with London and trying to gain the courage to say what she is. She figured if she could get one of the Founders on her side, she would be protected from the fallout that her power might cause.

To clarify, I probably shouldn't say that you can't say no to her immediately. Her power takes time to take effect. Think a weaker version of Nice Guy's power. People could ignore her at the start, it just took time.

As for the timing... I will fully admit that's a bit of a grey area for her. She was spending most of her time taking care of her and Alex's dad, so most of her time was visiting him while he's in recovery. By the time her power took effect, everyone in the clinic handwaved it as her just coming in to see her dad again.

But I'm not going to say the note was air tight. Looking at it now, it's a bit questionable.

.....

..please don't toy with my heart like that :cry:

I've got to do it at least one more time.

In which case, perhaps a general overview of the Founders, both when they were a standalone team and when they joined (if they joined) the protectorate-expy? For instance, Legend was always seen as head of the protectorate and a true hero while Alexandria and Eidolon were more forces of nature that would summarily obliterate wrongdoers. How did Atlas and his butterflies affect these dynamics? I could see leadership contested between Atlas and Legend for example.

Atlas is seen by many to be the 'First' real hero. The first of the Founders, (renamed Sentinals by the public) and the first publically seen S-Class hero. He leads this worlds version of the Guild, a strike team of the best of the best just below the Sentinels themselves. He'll be wildly known as the one Sentinal that gives his opponents a chance. He arrives at a fight and gives them one chance to surrender.

What happens next is on them, but Atlas does his best to keep it painless as he can.

He mostly uses his waves to blast them with high-pressure canons of air so decrease property damage. When he gets serious, he rips small holes and starts firing them like rail gun shots.

For villains, there goes a saying.

"If Alexandria finds you, get somewhere that has a lot of people and is indoors. Legend's after you, get underground. Hero? Pray you paid the right tinker to give you some breathing room. Eidolon, pray. Atlas, that bastard will give you a chance, and if you're not crazy you'll take it."

Officially, Atlas has no city of people under him, joining Atlas' team is like joining the Navy Seals. He is second to Legend and Hero in terms of Protectorate Hierarchy. Alex wants to help people, leading really isn't his thing when people who are far smarter could be calling the shots.

Eidolon is seen as the most powerful parahuman, but a lot of people think that Atlas could take him simply due to Atlas' popularity and some of his feats.
What would the name be of the superhero team the Founders established?

Protectorate and the Parahuman Responds team would be created and named the same as in Cannon. Both because it was part of Rebecca's original plan and I don't see any reason to change the name.

As for the big five (Atlas, Alexandria, Legend, Hero and Eidolon) they'll go by the Sentinals. Standing with them means you're an S class hero in one way or another.

Do you have any ideas as to what Atlas' most impressive feats could be?

Off the top of my head, something along the lines of:
  • Created a space so hyperdense that Alexandria couldn't move through it.
  • Overpowered a boosted Lung to the point where the parahumans regeneration couldn't keep up.
  • Redirected Legend and other light themed blasters lasers right back at them.
  • Equaled Alexandria in raw speed
  • Contained the explosion of a tinker-tech rocket that had a payload equal to a 16 inch shell fired from a battleship.
  • Lifted skyscrapers off the ground
  • Caught falling airliners
  • Used the then destroyed Ellis Island as a missile to throw at Leviathan
  • Holds back Leviathan's tidal waves alone for most attacks

How 'Active' and wide-ranging would Atlas be? Would he stick to a single city like Alexandria, or act as a rapid-response heavyweight like Dragon?

The original plan was for Alex to become a parahuman psychologist. Helping triggers understand what happened to them, giving them someone normal to talk to instead of having someone like Atlas look down at them. He would be based in LA as the PRT's foremost expert on how to handle different parahuman situations, setting their levels and responses to them.

But as a cape, he would be where ever he's needed. Rebecca needs to be the director for some things and Alexandria stays in LA, so Alex just flies where he needs to go.

(Side note: Rebecca specifically made Alex set up in LA so that they could visit one another during their off hours)

I have other questions for my Atlas in Canon piece, but i'll PM them to you later

Can't wait!
 
  • Created a space so hyperdense that Alexandria couldn't move through it.
  • Overpowered a boosted Lung to the point where the parahumans regeneration couldn't keep up.
  • Redirected Legend and other light themed blasters lasers right back at them.
  • Equaled Alexandria in raw speed
  • Contained the explosion of a tinker-tech rocket that had a payload equal to a 16 inch shell fired from a battleship.
  • Lifted skyscrapers off the ground
  • Caught falling airliners
  • Used the then destroyed Ellis Island as a missile to throw at Leviathan
  • Holds back Leviathan's tidal waves alone for most attacks
Holy shit. I knew Alex would be powerful, but he can one v one Endbringers? Damn, no wonder some people think he can beat Eidolon!

You mention Rebecca would be the head of the PRT based out of LA and Alex would be the head consultant and psychologist of the LA PRT. But how often would they get together? Alex leads a group that's essentially the elite of the elite and roams around Protectorate territory, and Rebecca is gonna be pretty busy herself. How much time would they have together with such busy lives?
 
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Holy shit. I knew Alex would be powerful, but he can one v one Endbringers? Damn, no wonder some people think he can beat Eidolon!

You mention Rebecca would be the head of the PRT based out of LA and Alex would be the head consultant and psychologist of the LA PRT. But how often would they get together? Alex leads a group that's essentially the elite of the elite and roams around Protectorate territory, and Rebecca is gonna be pretty busy herself. How much time would they have together with such busy lives?

He can hold them off for a time, but when they start getting serious is when Alex has to back off.

Rebecca is in DC as the public leader of the PRT.

But that's not too much of a problem. It was hard at first, but as people joined and moved up, both of them didn't have to keep a constant presence around the world. By the time that Taylor would be entering the story, it'll be like any other 9-5 job for them. It takes them all of two seconds to call a door and meet at cauldron and failing that they can take the two minutes out of their day to fly across the country.

Again, it wasn't easy, but neither is marriage in general.
 
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