Beware uncharted lands, for there be spoilers afoot!
This may seem like it's overdue, but based on a comment I recently received elsewhere, apparently the fact that there will be spoilers to both the Neon Genesis Evangelion anime and the events of various games in the Persona Series (including but not limited to Persona 3, Persona 3 Portable, Persona 4, and Persona 5) wasn't made clear just by how the plot has unveiled.

So I'm placing a sticky post for this message: if you have not watched the original Evangelion anime, or if you have not played the Persona games — especially P3, P4, P5, and their updated re-releases — then take note that this story contains spoilers to all of them. Read at your own risk.

/that should do it
//right?
///right??
 
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...is Shinji the original God/owner of the throne?
That felt pretty much confirmed to me after the Sea of Souls reveal. The only other candidates would be
- Yui - possible, but still doubt it - the usual concept is that Rei/Lilith handed control of TI (="Godhood") to Shinji; Yui just being in for the ride for her human monument
- Rei - unlikely, since she's still there, so would only work if you'd put the "handing control over to Shinji" as the "real" Shinji being the Usurper which would be very odd. And again, would seem a stretch that Rei would be considered as having "abandoned" the throne.
 
...is Shinji the original God/owner of the throne?

This part where Igor explains things pretty much confirms it:
"The God created by Man looked upon their handiwork, and was not pleased. In their sorrow, God left...and without their will, the Doors of Guf once more opened. The souls of man spilled forth upon the base earth." The white giant seemed to dissolve into a bloody mess, and the world's oceans were stained by its crimson essence. As the crosses faded away, all that remained was a red Earth.
That's just End of Eva.

On a separate note, Ryuji and Toji's relationship is very sweet. Probably the perfect mentor for him. And I wonder how the other kids feel, especially Shinji, since it seems (judging by what the Beast says), that he is holding back during fights? I can see himself blaming himself maybe for this, even if he isn't powerful enough to beat Minako even without holding back yet.
 
8/18 - Midday

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8V9fHAXcfGs

The hours since the battle had moved felt...slow. Disjointed. At least, that's how Shinji Ikari felt.

(Misato had tried to give him, Mana, Mayumi, Toji, and Kensuke a brief talk on the reality of death, and how it was a risk that came with their job. However, everyone could tell that it was...too fresh. Even Misato seemed disappointed with her own explanation.)​

Between Saori Hasegawa, and now Ken Amada and Junpei Iori...had he ever dealt with death on so intimate a level?

The Beast laughed and jeered.

"What
audacity..."

At least, that's how he felt.

(Mayumi had been rather teary overall, professing a desire to be alone. "Amada-san and Iori-san...they didn't deserve to die." It was only afterwards that he remembered: she wasn't even a week removed from learning that her parents were dead as well.)​

How was he supposed to react?

(Mana had thrown herself into a calisthenics routine, opting to distract herself with a purely physical workout. "...that girl was overwhelming," she muttered, looking at him with a beleaguered expression. "Hadn't felt like that since...our first fight." He didn't know to respond to that.)​

Was there a 'right' way to react? A 'wrong' way? It seemed...a poor way of approaching the reality. Yet...was acting with such detachment acceptable?

(He had backed away and around the corner of the house, upon seeing Toji speaking privately with Sakamoto. When he heard muffled sniffling, utter awkwardness and embarrassment forced him to depart...but he supposed it was only reasonable. For who among their number took death as hard as Suzuhara did?)​

It was why he was standing at a particular patch of grass in Sakura-sensei's yard: the same place where, in the Metaverse, Amada-san and Iori-san had met their end. Was it supposed to feel...harsher, than this?

He didn't know. At least, that's how he felt...

"Yen for your thoughts?"

Shinji blinked, looking up at Kensuke Aida. "Oh. Hi, Kensuke."

The bespectacled boy moved with slow steps, hands stuffed into his pockets. "Can't stop thinking about it, huh?"

"...no," he admitted. "I...I don't know how to think about it."

"How so?" When Shinji didn't immediately answer, Kensuke went for a tangent. "...we've done a lot of training, since the fight against Sho Minazuki in Okayama." Pacing in circles to keep his mind occupied, Kensuke continued, "what with the whole 'using your A.T. Field in the Metaverse' thing...looks like it wasn't as unique as we thought."

It's not; that girl used the same power as well. Who had she been? "I...I don't know if I should be feeling regret, or anger, or sadness...I just feel numb..."

Another place. Another time. After the death of someone precious.

"...I feel sad, but the tears won't come."

He had been numb. A hand reached out for his own.

A single touch sparked thoughts of shame and revulsion and disbelief and...and...!

"STOP IT!"

It was far easier to be numb, even if he hated it.

"...guess I can't blame you. Amada-san and Iori-san were pretty cool guys."

"...how are you handling it, Kensuke?"

The young man shrugged, an honest frown on his face. "I've been through this before, you know? With my mom, and all." Pausing to collect his thoughts, he then added, "I'd say it makes it easier, but that sounds kinda callous, you know? And...well, who am I to talk? I haven't exactly been on top of the craziness either."

Shinji nodded with understanding. "I wish I could cry like Yamagishi-san...or work myself into exhaustion like Kirishima-san."

"And what about Toji? He has Sakamoto to confide in, at least. Do you want to talk about it with Sakura-san or Katsuragi-san?"

"I wouldn't know where to start." He wished that he felt more guilty for how little he had accomplished. "...I feel like, even if I used more of my power, it still wouldn't have made a difference..."

Kensuke snorted, acknowledging the point. "Any idea if your 'friends in blue' know who that is? I thought they were the ones responsible for the whole...multiple Persona thing, after all."

"...I'm not sure." He resolved to find out. "But...it's weird. Part of me wanted to do more...but...I don't know if pulling out more power would have been worth it..."

"You think it wouldn't have mattered?"

"Maybe...but that's not why." He looked down at his right hand, clenching it into a fist. "I know we've talked about it before...the power of Evangelion, and what it does to me, I mean. But hearing about it and experiencing it are two different things."

"On the contrary," Kensuke said, "I was there when you had your first Evangelion training session with Ayanami. It was pretty brutal stuff."

He had almost forgotten all about that. (Like he didn't have enough memory problems.) "I...I don't like what I become, when I access more and more of Unit-01's power...but is it worth becoming more of a monster, if it meant protecting you all? I wish I could answer that, but I can't."

Kensuke stared at him quizzically, as if trying to figure him out. (A fool's errand.) "You must be inside your own head a lot, Shinji."

"...well, my Persona is Hamlet," he said, almost jokingly. (Oh, but how true it was!)

"Heh. Fair enough." Looking back at the spot where Amada and Iori had perished in the Metaverse, Kensuke added, "for what it's worth...I like to think that guys like that would prefer to die in battle. It's almost simpler, you know? There's no ambiguity or uncertainty; just the realization that their line of work caught up with them. Just like it did for my mom."

"...but it's not easy for those they leave behind."

Kensuke loosed a sober sigh. "Yeah. That's the kicker, isn't it? Even if they died as heroes...they're still dead. The people left behind still have to pick up the pieces." The expression on the boy's face was simultaneously nostalgic, thoughtful, and vexed. "...starting to think I owe my dad an apology, if this was anything like how he felt after mom died...I can understand why he didn't want to say anything."

"Because talking about it hurts," said Shinji, answering the unspoken question.

"No kidding. It honestly kind of sucks, to be honest."

His Other stared at a rickety bridge.

"It's comforting, isn't it?"

Slowly, he began to step across.

"Knowing that others share in your same struggles..."

"...I hope to have better answers, one day," said Shinji, breathing deeply in order to cement the current sensations into his mind. Junpei Iori and Ken Amada are dead. You're still alive. What are you going to do about it? "But...thank you anyway, Kensuke."

"For what?"

"For talking to me. For keeping me out of my head." (For keeping the numbness from consuming you.)

Kensuke blinked with genuine confusion. "Not exactly sure what I did, but I'll take your gratitude anyhow. You've helped me out enough to begin with, so why keep track?"

"I guess so." There was something refreshing, about that sort of simplicity. Inhaling deeply of the air, Shinji bowed towards the empty grass at a forty-five degree angle. Though there would doubtless be a funeral later...he wanted to say his piece. Amada-san...Iori-san...thank you for everything...goodbye.

Life waited for no one: not even the living.

xxxx

/Magician
//now at Rank 7
 
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He's holding himself together much better than I expected. I suppose that's to be expected given what he has experienced in previous timelines even if he's deep down suppressing those memories.
 
Wait. I just realized that I don't know what Kensuke's weapon is in the Metaverse.
Gah, that's gonna be a minor bug for me...hopefully I can get the answer soon enough from reading...

But anyways! What I'm actually here for. A question I think I can just ask.

What is Sister Mary's height?
 
8/18 - Afternoon
The rest of the day moved with similar alacrity: namely, not much at all.

A temporary barrier of sorts had been put up in Shinji's room, composed of copious amounts of tape and tarps. Afterwards, within the entry hall of Sojiro Sakura's home, everyone had gathered in the various easy chairs, listening to Zenkichi Hasegawa and Ryuji Sakamoto elaborate on the details of Amada and Iori's wake and funeral. "The closest funeral home is less than ten kilometers away, and they've already begun making preparations for a wake," explained Zenkichi.

(Akane had accompanied her father to the ryokan; that she didn't quite know how to approach her fellow teens was manifest in her awkward glances in their direction.)​

"...when will it occur?" asked Mayumi.

"As soon as their wives can get in town," answered Ryuji. "They'll be interrupting their tours to swing back this way. The organizers in Matsue and Akashi were...understanding. Hopefully."

"So they should be here by tomorrow..." Ren leaned on his knees, resting his elbows. "Think Old Man Sakura would mind if we got guest rooms ready for them? They'll need a place to stay."

"...Sakura-sensei would complain, but I don't think he'll mind," murmured Shinji.

Ryuji turned his gaze towards Kurosawa. "Any word from your oh-so-lovely superiors?"

The expression on Kurosawa's face said plenty. "...unfortunately, they're not willing to budge. They've deemed the situation too severe to warrant delaying."

Misato stormed to her feet. "Now you listen here-!"

"Don't shoot the messenger," interrupted Kurosawa, who seemed genuinely irritated. "I have less authority than you might think."

"...well, I guess it's a good thing I made a call while I was out with Hasegawa," remarked Ryuji. "I asked the Commissioner to try and grease the wheels. Don't know exactly what he'll be able to pull, but he's a tough old cuss."

"Commissioner Morooka may have a well-known stubborn streak, but even he can't-"

"Hey, hold on, just got a message," interrupted Ryuji, looking down at his phone. "...huh. A video file?"

"Who's it from?" asked Suzuhara.

"Mishima-san," he answered, referring to Morooka's personal secretary. As he opened the video and turned the volume up, it showed Morooka from behind, walking through the halls of some government building in...Tokyo-2? "Oh no."

"What's happening?" asked Kensuke.

Before Ryuji could answer, there was the sound of a door opening; Morooka walked into a room occupied by numerous men in suits, who were obviously in the middle of a meeting. "Oh no..."

"...what did Commissioner Morooka do?" wondered Misato aloud, accurately guessing at the contents of the video.

"I think he interrupted a Cabinet meeting," Ryuji explained, referring to the executive branch of the Japanese government.

Morooka's grating voice echoed out from the phone's speakers. "Hey, Sakamura!" he called out, speaking to Hiroki Sakamura, the Chairman of the National Public Safety Commission. "I've heard from a reliable source about the behavior of the people under your jurisdiction, and I've half a mind to put you and the whole damn NPA on my shitlist!" What followed was...a tirade for the ages.

"Akane, cover your ears," ordered Zenkichi.

(Akane promptly obeyed the letter of his order by cupping her hands over her ears. It was in utter defiance of its spirit, because she could still hear perfectly fine.)

Morooka went on...

"...holy crap, that's a lot of curse words," murmured Misato with wide eyes.

...and on...

"Should...should we be listening to this?" wondered Mayumi with ever-increasing anxiety.

"Old enough to participate in life-or-death battles, old enough to listen to the profane ranting of a man arguing on your behalf," said Ren with pseudo-sagacity, unable to hide the sheer enjoyment in his grin.

...and on.

Ten minutes later, Morooka concluded, "so if you and that asswipe Mizugumi," referring to Hiroto Mizugumi, the Commissioner General of the National Police Agency, "sincerely think that our survival hinges on a bunch of kids getting to Tokyo-2 immediately for a damned debriefing...so much so that they don't even have time to attend the funerals of their comrades-in-arms, who gave their lives in the line of duty...then you must think rather poorly about our people and our ability to rise to the occasion. Quite frankly, your baseless opinion of the resiliency of the Japanese and the strength of our country is worth less than the piss I took on the way here!" Morooka finally turned around — utterly ignorant of the stares coming from the Cabinet ministers, who were gobsmacked and outraged in equal measure — and said, "and if you have any complaints, you can direct them to my secretary! Let's go Mishima."

"Y-Yes sir!" stuttered the man behind the camera, who quickly lowered his device. The footage ended moments later.

"...that was a lot of yelling," admitted Shinji with a stunned expression.

"I like that guy," said Mana, out of the blue.

"This was taken...an hour ago, apparently," said Ryuji, looking back towards Kurosawa.

In a fantastic bit of timing (be it due to sheer coincidence or cosmic irony), Kurosawa's phone buzzed. Pulling it up, he looked at the message with a stony expression. "...it would seem that attending the funeral services for Amada-san and Iori-san will no longer be an issue."

"I'm glad we could put aside our differences and come to a mutual understanding," snarked Ryuji.

Kurosawa wasn't impressed. "Let's be honest: even if this bit of clemency hadn't been extended, you would have stayed to attend their funerals regardless. After all...even if you're only a Freelancer now, you were once their superior, de facto and de jure." Leaning back in his chair, he — with an oddly wistful melancholy — added, "that sense of responsibility for your subordinates...it never goes away. Not completely."

At this, the adults in the room seemed to be in agreement.

xxxx

/Meanwhile, Eastward of Nagoya in Gifu Prefecture/


View: https://youtu.be/J-xBp38b4fg

Tohru Adachi hummed thoughtfully as he looked at the road signs. "Hmm..." Standing near a rather major juncture, he consulted a pocket atlas to get his bearings. "...so if I veer towards the northeast, I could head towards Tokyo-2...or I could go southeast, and make it to Tokyo-3...decisions, decisions..."

Looking for all the world like a simple salaryman in a poncho, no one paid much attention to him. It was just the way of things.

"...shucks, I can't make up my mind." Pulling out an old 100-yen coin, he gazed at both sides. Numbers for Tokyo-2, sakura blossoms for Tokyo-3. Flipping the coin, he adeptly caught it on the way down, pressing it into the palm of his free hand. "And the winner is..." Opening his hand, he saw the choice dictated by chance...and immediately frowned. "That's not what I wanted...you suck." He promptly threw the coin away before blinking with realization. "...huh, guess I actually did make up my mind." (Funny, how he had tried to justify what he wanted to do with a completely superfluous action.)

And so Adachi went on his way, with those among him none the wiser as to who walked in their midst.

xxxx

/readers of Mobile Fighter Evangelion
//will probably recognize the names of Hiroki Sakamura and Hiroto Mizugumi ;)
 
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Wait. I just realized that I don't know what Kensuke's weapon is in the Metaverse.
Gah, that's gonna be a minor bug for me...hopefully I can get the answer soon enough from reading...

But anyways! What I'm actually here for. A question I think I can just ask.

What is Sister Mary's height?

Kensuke's weapon of choice won't come until much later, relative to where you currently are. :p

As for Mari's height: I have her in my master reference file at 165 cm (just shy of five feet, five inches...so a centimeter shorter than Misato, Ritsuko, and Mitsuru).

(Perspective is a bit of a tricky thing in the art piece with her and Mister P, but just for reference, Mister P is a solid seven feet tall, or just over 213 cm. He's a chonky bird-man. :V )
 
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Hiroto Mizugumi... Is he the official with the grudge towards Gendo Ikari? Or is it Sakamura?
 
Also, do you think this sort of speech will happen at the funeral?


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L03K2njcCrM


I'd like to try and avoid riffing any material from the guy who was canonically compared to Hitler, if at all possible.

Hiroto Mizugumi... Is he the official with the grudge towards Gendo Ikari?

Hiroto Mizugumi and Hiroki Sakamura were two of the three JSSDF officials in Episode 1 that watched as the military got BTFO'd by Sachiel.

Mizugumi would later go on to be the guy who inadvertently kidnapped Mari instead of Asuka, which prompted an angry Pieter Langley to give him a visit.

Sakamura was the general who oversaw the Invasion of Tokyo-3 during Episodes 31 and 32.
 
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Yeah I suspect the funeral will be down to earth. As for the recording of Hiroto Mizugumi criticizing the government, will it become popular?
 
Yeah I suspect the funeral will be down to earth. As for the recording of Hiroto Mizugumi criticizing the government, will it become popular?

It was a recording from a private Cabinet meeting. I doubt Morooka would let it publicly leak out so long as the others get to attend Junpei and Ken's funerals without being hassled. It helps them to save face.

/so in other words
//it's leverage only
 
Hiroto Mizugumi... Is he the official with the grudge towards Gendo Ikari? Or is it Sakamura?

where this NGE!canon, I would ask:
"Who doesn't have a grudge against Gendo Ikari?"

That would just turn public opinion against them. Not to mention I get the feeling they will be blamed for the deaths.

since when does STREGA care about PR?
They want everyone to die. They want the Angels to win.
there can't be many that support that.
 
Since that is the case, wouldn't that make it easy for the governments to declare them enemies of humanity?

Who says they aren't already declared enemies of humanity?

Ever since the July New Moon, Angel Syndrome incidents have been restricted to wherever the Evangelion-users are, at least within nine hundred kilometers. (This was further supported by what happened to the Koreas during the August New Moon, as the majority of the Korean Peninsula lies within nine hundred kilometers of Nishiawakura.)

As such, the rest of the world was like: "Japan, Strega's your problem. We're gonna lick our wounds now kthxbye."

Recall from the beginning of August 2015:

Meanwhile, as the hours passed, and the Hakone Caravan made their way around the hilly-to-mountainous edges of the massive Kii Peninsula, Ryuji Sakamoto's foreboding premonition was coming true on the other side of Eurasia, as the sun rose over Europe...

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/Director Kirijo's Office, NERV-03, Germany/



Mitsuru Kirijo was not a woman who appreciated bad news first thing in the morning.

Especially when it was news that rendered two whole weeks of politicking and wheeling and dealing worthless. "Chancellor, I urge you to reconsider," she all but growled into her phone.

The tired voice of the Chancellor of Germany came back. "The Security Council was unanimous in their verdict."

"Of course they would be, Japan's not even one of the non-permanent members at the moment!" Alongside the permanent five of America, the United Kingdom, France, Russia, and China, the current slate of non-permanent members included Ethiopia, Chad, Nigeria, India, Indonesia, Brazil, Argentina, Australia, Germany, and Hungary; of those fifteen nations, eight had experienced devastation at the hands of the Angels during the last new moon (nine, if one counted for the giant creature that the Second Child had slain in Germany). "You mean to imply that even we voted for it?! Were it not for Asuka, Bavaria would have been-!"

"Circumstances have changed. Since Strega issued their proclamation, everyone has been paying attention to the distribution of Angel Syndrome incidents...and you know what pattern I speak of."

Mitsuru said nothing, because she knew of what the Chancellor spoke. She had even instructed the Second Child to make a circuit around Europe, North Africa, and the Middle East over the past several days to see if the pattern would hold...and it had. "Yes sir."

"Wherever the Evangelion-users have been stationed since the 16th of July, Acolytes and Ghosts emerged within a radius of nine hundred kilometers of their position...and only within that radius. For the first time since Second Impact, the majority of the world is blessedly free of those cognitive horrors...which indicates that Angel Syndrome is no longer random, but targeted."

"You are asking for us to discard our most effective counter-!"

"If every other nation has a chance to catch their breath, then perhaps we can finally come up with countermeasures that don't involve the Evangelions...but if these Angels and their proxies in Strega want to focus on the Evangelions to the exclusion of everything else, then the Security Council is happy to indulge them. Besides...unusual choice of German nomenclature aside, NERV and its predecessor GEHIRN were both organizations founded by the Japanese; Evangelion is their brainchild. Its Commander and three Directors are all Japanese. In like manner, despite the Italian nomenclature, Strega has only one known member thus far: Jin Shirato, another Japanese national." Put like that, it almost sounded damning. "As far as the world is concerned, the Angels are now Japan's problem...and I can't blame them."

"...this is a grave mistake, Chancellor."

"The Council's decision is final: Asuka Langley-Sohryu has until the next new moon to leave Europe. Barring any unusual circumstances, her deadline to be fully reassigned to Japan is the first of September. If you try to subvert this in any way...you will regret it."

"...very well, Chancellor. I will abide by this."

"Thank you, Director Kirijo. I honestly wish it could have gone differently." And with that, he unceremoniously hung up.

"...no you don't," she bitterly murmured, trying hard to resist the urge to stab something. Fantastic...those complete and utter fools...!


I don't think the other countries would be resting on their laurels and not preparing for the war against Strega/Angels to resume at some point.

But for now, they're more than happy to let Japan be the punching bag for Strega and the Angels in the meantime.
 
Ever since the July New Moon, Angel Syndrome incidents have been restricted to wherever the Evangelion-users are, at least within nine hundred kilometers. (This was further supported by what happened to the Koreas during the August New Moon, as the majority of the Korean Peninsula lies within nine hundred kilometers of Nishiawakura.)

As such, the rest of the world was like: "Japan, Strega's your problem. We're gonna lick our wounds now kthxbye."

I don't think the other countries are resting on their laurels.

But they're happy to let Japan be the punching bag for Strega and the Angels in the meantime.
I get the feeling that attitude will come back to bite them.
 
Morooka is wasted as a high school teacher.

I have been enjoying the fact that many fanfic writers actually use Morooka in interesting ways instead of just being nothing but an awful person. There was a persona/fate stay night crossover where Morooka was still a jerk, but actually pretty good at his job as a teacher and had an interesting conversation with Shirou about his goals in life rather than just mock him for wanting to be a hero. Seeing him going to this kind of effort and risk to help everyone attend the funeral is awesome.
 
I have been enjoying the fact that many fanfic writers actually use Morooka in interesting ways instead of just being nothing but an awful person. There was a persona/fate stay night crossover where Morooka was still a jerk, but actually pretty good at his job as a teacher and had an interesting conversation with Shirou about his goals in life rather than just mock him for wanting to be a hero. Seeing him going to this kind of effort and risk to help everyone attend the funeral is awesome.

I think after the debacle with Misato's kidnapping by the JET ALONE Project (and the pressure that was put onto Morooka off-screen to make sure anyone looking into her 'disappearance' got dropped; recall his phone conversation with Akechi that resulted in Goro resorting to more obtuse means of resolving the matter), the Commissioner's patience with the more cloak-and-dagger types in the government is somewhat considerably reduced as of late.

To put it mildly. :V
 
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