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SHIELD maiden (Worm/Marvel/Kancolle)

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Lunaryon said:
Taylor WILL have to do some face punching, especially during the early arcs, but yeah that's not her true purpose.
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And now I'm picturing her using some bullshit-tier remote hacking of things that shouldn't be remote hackable thanks to technobabble. Possibly something involving high-resolution EM scanners and precision emitters reading the machine and spoofing instructions on a hardware level.

That's about the level of shenanigans I'd imagine The Iliad's E-War team to be capable of when being able to park the whole Hellicarrier within a few hundred yards of the target device.


newwriter said:
By Worm standards, shipgirls are brutes. I believe that in Kantai Collection, a shipgirl's physical strength comes from its engine so Taylor would be very strong.
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I should say so, given that her engines allow something massing 175,000 tons, or roughly 1.75x the mass of the largest warship ever produced, to fly under its own power.

The only things with more loaded displacement than her are some of the largest cargo ships... and 80% of the displacement on those things is deadweight tonnage from the cargo.
 
Astrobot said:
Im pretty sure the author mentioned in the thread that The Illiad is an insight helicarrier in this story.
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GamingGeek said:
As a Project Insight SHIELD Helicarrier shipgirl, Taylor should logically have access to the Insight program. Which is Tattletale's power using computers, yes? :D
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shinkicker444 said:
I don't believe that is the case. It's a combination of Avengers, Cap America and the comic version (which is the Illiad). It has the hull of the one from the Avengers movies, and is Maria Hills carrier from the comics (the Illiad). What she gets from the CA version isn't (shouldn't be) all the guns, and is probably more the electronic warfare/tracking/espionage stuff. Frankly I'd like to see her do something other than be the usual DD or BB route of run up and punch things in the face which is what giving her all the guns would encourage, seen that in like every KC cross and would like to see something different. Being a CV and not directly engaging in face punching is different and interesting and fits the SHIELD carriers role better.
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Yeah this - ^

However, I had completely forgotten that Maria Hill jumped ship from SHIELD after the insanity of Winter Soldier, though she did keep in contact with Coulson's SHIELD remnant and actually ended up technically working for the Avengers as a Liaison before getting hit by the Snap. So her Helicarrier ended up being transferred to Mack.

LightsaberDalek said:
I haven't seen anyone mention yet that Taylor probably has nukes on board. The Avengers movie helicarrier had at least two on board, and it wasn't treated as a big deal, just the closest to New York.
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She has a load out of 10 AGM-129, which do in fact have Nuclear payloads... so yes.

As of now I don't have any scenes planned out where she uses them (for the obvious reason of NUKES) but I am thinking about what wold happen if that fact gets out. It would likely be an arc or two in and of itself.
Just A Dude said:
And now I'm picturing her using some bullshit-tier remote hacking of things that shouldn't be remote hackable thanks to technobabble. Possibly something involving high-resolution EM scanners and precision emitters reading the machine and spoofing instructions on a hardware level.

That's about the level of shenanigans I'd imagine The Iliad's E-War team to be capable of when being able to park the whole Hellicarrier within a few hundred yards of the target device.




I should say so, given that her engines allow something massing 175,000 tons, or roughly 1.75x the mass of the largest warship ever produced, to fly under its own power.

The only things with more loaded displacement than her are some of the largest cargo ships... and 80% of the displacement on those things is deadweight tonnage from the cargo.
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The only ship I can think of that might have weighed more would have been Cybertek's Principia but that's not really a fair comparison, given that it was not flying under it's own power, but was just lifted up into the sky thanks to the power of Gravitonium that had been hit by lightning.
 
If she does have access to Project Insight, Taylor has access to a phenomenal amount of processing power, and potentially enter into a cyber war with Dragon.
And, as a HYDRA built ship, I am sure some part of her would agree to HYDRA ideology of control. Even if she doesn't realize it at this moment.
And while I enjoy the pleasure of Taylor punching all the things, as an Aircraft Carrier, her best role would be command and control. Stay out of the fight, but be able to sway things to where she wants her enemies to be. Now, if she had a battlecruiser, or even a dozen of Destroyer Escorts, she would be the Queen of the Battlefield.
And I wonder what she could do to the PRT Rig when someone leaves an unsecured WiFi port open for Taylor to gain Insight of the PRT.
 
Lunaryon said:
I am thinking about what wold happen if that fact gets out. It would likely be an arc or two in and of itself.
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Unless she tells people she has nukes I'm not seeing how they could find out. Also seems like it would be just annoying drama or derp with people trying to control her to take away character agency. And they're part of her so it's not like she can give them away. Saying that, would be nice to see her nuke something at some point. Kind of like she did in The Little Ship That Could.
 
shinkicker444 said:
Unless she tells people she has nukes I'm not seeing how they could find out. Also seems like it would be just annoying drama or derp with people trying to control her to take away character agency. And they're part of her so it's not like she can give them away. Saying that, would be nice to see her nuke something at some point. Kind of like she did in The Little Ship That Could.
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That's really the only thing I could think of which would lead people finding out - her nuking something. The problem with that is finding something to nuke that you... won't have collateral damage and what not.
 
Lunaryon said:
That's really the only thing I could think of which would lead people finding out - her nuking something. The problem with that is finding something to nuke that you... won't have collateral damage and what not.
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Simple enough: Catch the Slaughterhouse Nine somewhere isolated, right after they've completely depopulated a small town. A nuke is big enough it would take out Manton without even knowing about him, as well.

Or go for The Machine Army, Nilbog, etc. Really, any S-Class threat is generally going to be worth blowing up their whole zip code.
 
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Just A Dude said:
Simple enough: Catch the Slaughterhouse Nine somewhere isolated, right after they've completely depopulated a small town. A nuke is big enough it would take out Manton without even knowing about him, as well.

Or go for The Machine Army, Nilbog, etc. Really, any S-Class threat is generally going to be worth blowing up their whole zip code.
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Hell you could have it be some super stark tech nuke that will remove everything from ellisburg is you wanted...
 
Firefinder12-B said:
Hell you could have it be some super stark tech nuke that will remove everything from ellisburg is you wanted...
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well, while the payload itself isn't anything special, the nuclear missiles she is carrying are the 'D' variant which doesn't exist in the real world, and is noted to have been developed by Howard Stark in the notes I have.

The sheer amount of notes that I am making for this story is easily outdoing anything that I have made before. Actually...

*jots something down*

That gives me an idea.
 
Lunaryon said:
well, while the payload itself isn't anything special, the nuclear missiles she is carrying are the 'D' variant which doesn't exist in the real world, and is noted to have been developed by Howard Stark in the notes I have.

The sheer amount of notes that I am making for this story is easily outdoing anything that I have made before. Actually...

*jots something down*

That gives me an idea.
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Oh dear. The topic of conversation being nukes and their proper targeting makes this about a 50/50 split between villainous cackling at the potential boom and pity for the poor sod that gets an express delivery. What's special about the D variant out of curiosity? Bigger boom, less collateral, acts like the Jericho Missiles for accuracy/range reasons?
 
Except you don't want to nuke Ellisburg because Nilbog, as WOG states, has contingencies.
 
GamingGeek said:
I'm sorry, but you can't make a spore that survives an atomic explosion. One that eats the remains afterwards yes, but a nuke is a nuke.

Wildbow put many things that just don't work in his story.
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Depending on the size of the nuke and how far underground things are hidden, it is very possible for spacewhale fueled BS to survive.
 
Shadedancer said:
Oh dear. The topic of conversation being nukes and their proper targeting makes this about a 50/50 split between villainous cackling at the potential boom and pity for the poor sod that gets an express delivery. What's special about the D variant out of curiosity? Bigger boom, less collateral, acts like the Jericho Missiles for accuracy/range reasons?
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The short of it, is that the D variant has a 20% increase in range and a 15% decrease in cost.

The long of it is highly classified, but it is worth noting that much of this is related to changes in the actual physical materials that the missile is crafted from, and that some of these developments were only possible due to Stark's studies of the Tesseract and the Darkforce, though what it is that he learned from these things is unknown.
 
GamingGeek said:
Wildbow put many things that just don't work in his story.
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Agreed. This is not one of them, however.
GamingGeek said:
I'm sorry, but you can't make a spore that survives an atomic explosion. One that eats the remains afterwards yes, but a nuke is a nuke.
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In open air, your statement may be true. But we've discovered e.g. bacteria that live in bedrock, multi-celled life 2km+ deep, extremophiles that can survive 500k rads, etc.

And that's without shard optimization.

Life is astoundingly tenacious.
 
Okay Azur Lane AI, make a decision. Are you an absolute idiot that's barely worth using at all...

Or are you going to throw out a sling of torpedos that blow up a Kamikaze and two small ships as they spawn in, then spin about and lightly tap a kamikaze as it passes, doing the bare minimum of damage as you back off and toss a single bullet backwards to detonate the last one before it goes off screen.

Cause that was awesome and I wish you were that great all the time.
 
Lunaryon said:
Okay Azur Lane AI, make a decision.
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It's pants on head stupid. Any success is pure luck. The 'PvP' exercises almost make me want to throw my iPad across the room at times out of frustration.

Pseudocognisant said:
Agreed. This is not one of them, however.
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Except it's just another example of Wildbow having his cake and eating it too in terms of maximising derp. It's stupid, and will always be stupid. If the villains get to be hyper competent and have contingencies for every scenario then the heroes do as well by virtue of having far far more resources and options and scour Elisberg from existance. So nuke the fucking thing down to the god damn mantle.
 
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shinkicker444 said:
So nuke the fucking thing down to the god damn mantle.
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That wouldn't exactly be conducive to retaining life on the continent. Or indeed on Earth in general.

Note that the mantle is usually something like 25-70km down on a continent.

Note that even the Chicxulub impactor "only" left a crater ~20km deep.

Work out how many, say, 250MT nukes it would require.
 
Pseudocognisant said:
Agreed. This is not one of them, however.

In open air, your statement may be true. But we've discovered e.g. bacteria that live in bedrock, multi-celled life 2km+ deep, extremophiles that can survive 500k rads, etc.

And that's without shard optimization.

Life is astoundingly tenacious.
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All they have to do is kill Nilbog and all his creations self-destruct.
 
kahn1234 said:
All they have to do is kill Nilbog and all his creations self-destruct.
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Where did you get that Idea? As far as I know he didn't implant them all with bombs and they are both Self Replicating and Self Sufficient. The only limiting factor is that they have a Lifespan of 3-4 Years as long as they don't eat Protein (ie: Meat).
 
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MetaChthonia said:
Where did you get that Idea? As far as I know he didn't implant them all with bombs and they are both Self Replicating and Self Sufficient. The only limiting factor is that they have a Lifespan of 3-4 Years as long as they don't eat Protein (ie: Meat).
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If not, just do deep-penetrating scans to find his creations and then flatten the area with nukes or Rad them to death with Neutron bombs.

Or use some Rods of the Gods to pulverise them.

She's a helicarrier full of stark-tech. She should have something that could deal with Nilbog.
 
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kahn1234 said:
Or use some Rods of the Gods to pulverise them.
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That would be worse, those only impact with the energy of a nuclear weapon not actually have the same damage. It would be flinging anything of sufficient durability and any debris high and away. Most of the actual damage of a Nuclear Weapon comes from its Shockwave and Radiation something those don't actually have (the impact comes from the shockwave of the rod exploding underground and there is no Radiation).

She's a helicarrier full of stark-tech. She should have something that could deal with Nilbog.
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I recommend something that can atomize the area, restructure the atoms, or delete everything in the area. Unfortunately Starktech never seems to loan itself to those types of things.
·Atomization bombs
·Fusion bombs
·Blackhole bombs
Those are the only things within her Tech Range that could be able to 100% Nilbog's stuff. The first is self explanatory, the second is essentially changing things so they don't exist the way they did by forcing their atomic structure to fuse, and the last creates a hole in reality (using whatever magical Shipgirl BS) that Deletes all Information that falls into it (although then she has an even bigger problem in the shape of a city devouring Blackhole that is probably eating the planet till it Radiates away and explodes with enough force to wipe the surface clean).

The problem with Nilbog isn't his army, it is his Biotinker Viruses. If it weren't for that they would have Nuked him already. There is also the problem with Taylor being a specific type of Helicarrier that never carried the kind of weaponry needed to do the job. I know of a single armor that Iron Man himself had but as far as I know no Helicarrier had that weaponry. If she had a Tiny Stark then she might be able to make something but she doesn't. Then again her Specs have stuff from the Insight (specifically the Repulsors) and she is suppose to be the Iliad (which had fans not Repulsors. At least I assume this is suppose to be the Helicarrier from before the Insights, the only other Iliad was an Aircraft Carrier not a Helicarrier) so maybe she does anyway?
 
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*Sees helicarrier deck layout*

*Has heart attack*

Which fucking idiot thought putting a runway over an engine was a good idea. The design flaws... they're breeding.
 
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