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Astrobot said:
When has that ever apeared in anything kanmusu related? If that was the case, the author might as well have given her bleeding edge iron man armor for all that its less dangerous than she is.

As for weapons, I imagine she doesnt need them if her powers work anything like fletcher!taylor's powers do.
Plus didnt the author say she had fairy!avengers?
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Pretty much in everything Kanmasu related, carriers like Taylor are able to send out planes - though I haven't been able to figure out if the planes stay the tiny size, or if they grow bigger.

Meanwhile, the 30 second PV for the upcoming Azur Lane anime has a like 2 second clip of Hood standing on the brow of the Hood before it dissolves into sparkles and forms into her rigging.

Likewise, I'm pretty sure that the guns on a Kanmasu's rigging are just as powerful as the full sized versions... but I'm admittedly not sure about that.

And while I did mention that she has fairies - the only Avenger Fairy she is Black Widow. Taylor is the UNSHC-67 The Iliad and is the base of the Secret Warriors, not the 65 which is the ship that the Avengers were on in the movies.
 
I think they can scale planes up in size if the girl decides, but pack as just as much punch regardless. Guns seem to hit as hard as the real thing even though they're tiny.

Also, AL anime preview? With Hood!? Noice. Although what you describe there sounds like it's kind of... poetic or something.

Remember everything can be hand waved with MSSB!
 
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The bit with Hood is from 12-16 seconds

That's about what I thought about the guns and weapons, so thankfully that means I won't have to change much.

I am tempted to add a PHO interlude either after the next chapter, or after the Day of Clusterfucks.
 
do a PHO anytime you feel like though heres a question besides planes and whatever the repulsors can do what kind of actual weapons does she have on board?
 
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    • beow said:
    do a PHO anytime you feel like though heres a question besides planes and whatever the repulsors can do what kind of actual weapons does she have on board?
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    *cough cough* Mind you, I may have to edit this in the future, given that there is still much that I am learning as I research for all of this

    The Iliad
    Type Odyssey Class Hellicarrier
    Displacement Approximately 175,000 Long Tons
    Length 1230 ft (350m)
    Beam Flight Deck: 267 ft (81m)
    Waterline: I have no idea how to properly calc this
    Draft From how I understand this, it should be somewhere around like... 15 to 20 feet deeper than the bottom of the hull?
    Propulsion 4 Industrial Potentium Arc Reactors
    20 Horizontal Muon Beam Repulsors
    4 Helicarrier Class Vertical Muon beam Repulsors
    I have no idea how to calc SHP, but it's a lot
    Speed 45 Knots (50 mph)
    Range Unlimited Distance
    75 years+ (speculated)
    Complement 4,273
    Crew Air Wing: 2,700
    Total: 5,300
    "Hero Units" Director of SHIELD: Alphonso Mackenzie
    SHIELD/Avengers Liaison: Natasha Romanov
    Field Commander: Skye Johnson
    Secret Warrior: Elena Rodriguez
    Secret Warrior: Kate Bishop
    Scientist: Jemma Fitz
    Scientist: Leo Fitz
    Sensors and Processing Systems AN/SPY3 X-Band Radar
    AN/SPY4 S-Band Radar
    AN/SPS48G 3-D Radar
    AN/SPS49A(V)1 2-D Radar
    A bunch of other stuff that I really still don't fully understand.
    Electronic Warfare and Decoys Same as the above - I'll get to it tho...
    Missile Armament 4 RIM-162 ESSM Launchers
    4 RIM-116 RAM Launchers
    1 ACM Launcher
    36 Enhanced Sea Sparrow Missiles
    36 Rolling Air Missiles
    10 AGM-129-D Advanced Cruise Missiles
    Gun Armament 4 Dual M2 .50 Cal Machine Guns
    8 Phalanx CIWS
    4 Sunrise Class Muon Medium Repulsor Cannon
    2 Eclipse Class Muon Heavy Repulsor Cannon
    Aircraft Carried 48x F-35 Lightning II
    12x EA-18G Growler
    15x MV-22 Ospreys
    10x Quinjets
    4x Jumpjets
    1x Zephyr One
     
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    Is that enough guns? I thought that Helicarriers from the MCU had more direct gun armaments?
    Also, is there a fairy Maria Hill considering that Taylor is her personal carrier? Will Taylor has memories of Colonel Fury and other members of Shield and other Marvel Heroes?
     
    Huh... is that the regular helicarrier or the insight ones...

    As for Maria Hill I'm somewhat conflicted. I had originally planned for it to be Hill, but officially she quit SHIELD after the HYDRA uprising and joined Stark Tech, then left there and joined Fury off doing... whatever it is that Fury is doing... So she wasn't a member of the crew at the imagined point post Infinity War 2 that I'm working from...
     
    Lunaryon said:
    Huh... is that the regular helicarrier or the insight ones...

    As for Maria Hill I'm somewhat conflicted. I had originally planned for it to be Hill, but officially she quit SHIELD after the HYDRA uprising and joined Stark Tech, then left there and joined Fury off doing... whatever it is that Fury is doing... So she wasn't a member of the crew at the imagined point post Infinity War 2 that I'm working from...
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    It is an insight Helicarrier. My mistake, if you look closely at the picture you can see the hull number IN-02 or IN-03.

    Insight helicarriers are more advanced than the original shield helicarriers.

    Project Insight
     
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    Lunaryon said:
    Director of SHIELD: Alphonso Mackenzie
    SHIELD/Avengers Liaison: Natasha Romanov
    Field Commander: Skye Johnson
    Secret Warrior: Elena Rodriguez
    Secret Warrior: Kate Bishop
    Scientist: Jemma Fitz
    Scientist: Leo Fitz
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    Squee!
    ...Actually, that reminds me; I really need to go watch the rest of that show. I kinda fell off the wagon halfway through season four. :/ Still, it's really neat to see you bringing in some AoS people as fairies!

    Although... Are you treating fairies like guns or planes and not making them less effective due to size? Because Quake is kinda high tier. Like, "Eats natural disasters" high tier, AFAIK.
    Maybe it's not a-- *(Remembers the multiple massive S%&^storms Taylor is going to have to deal with)* ...Carry on.
     
    Lunaryon
    Just to be clear, the S.H.I.E.L.D. organization in your fic is the MCU version? I just want to be sure as comic book Shield is a UN-backed organization while the MCU Shield is solely an American Military Organization.

    http://marvelcinematicuniverse.wikia.com/wiki/S.H.I.E.L.D.
    Strategic Homeland Intervention, Enforcement and Logistics Division (Earth-616)


    If Taylor is a Helicarrier from the American SHIELD, I would imagine that she would be more "US-centric", than a Helicarrier from a UN-backed Shield.
     
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    I actually forgot Agents of SHIELD was a thing... so I don't really recognise any of those characters for what they did/do, beyond maybe a name or two. But based off an above comment it seems that there are some super hero's present?

    Another quirk with the guns and scaling is that on radar she'd probably show as a full sized helicarrier. She'd have drones in her equipment I presume, right?

    Also with 4 palladium reactors, dat food bill will be real.

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    The bit with Hood is from 12-16 seconds
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    Squee! While I'm partial to Illustrious, Akagi and Kaga for.... reasons, Hood is my favourite. So. Much. Damage. Also she offers me tea. Enterprise is a close second in that department.

    Huh, that trailer is... interesting, can't quite tell if they're going with the girls summoning full sized ships as well as rigging, or if that is... metaphorical or flashbacks with the full sized ships. Did recognise most of the girls too.
     
    shinkicker444 said:
    so I don't really recognise any of those characters for what they did/do,
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    I obviously don't know what the characters have gotten up to in the last season-and-a-half, but as a quick rundown:

    Alphonso Mackenzie: Field agent i.e, general badass. Skilled mechanic. Super huge, an absolute unit. Improvises a shotgun-ax fighting off speciesist home invaders, likes it enough to use SHIELD resources to make a better one for fighting tentacle-Dracula. Apparently becomes Director of SHIELD at some point?

    Elena Rodriguez aka Yo-Yo: Field agent, see above. Inhuman i.e, "our Mutants are different". Possesses superspeed and enhanced perceptions to match, with limitations. Can move faster than humans or standard framerate cameras can track, (appearing as a blur at-most.) but not faster than bullets. Snaps back to wherever she started her "run" after a fixed period of time, namely the time between one of her heartbeats and the next.

    Jemma Fitz and Leo Fitz: Expert biologist and engineer, respectively. Each counts as roughly half a field agent. Collectively the "Q" of SHIELD. Three season "Will they or won't they" champions. Totes adorkable.

    Skye aka Daisy Johnson aka Quake: Top-tier field agent aka super-spy. Expert hacker, data analyst. One-woman cyber-warfare devision. Inhuman, possesses control over vibrations. Power is generally expressed as various concussive blasts, force fields, causing earthquakes, limited flight (Super-jumps), pseudo-telekinetic tricks like moving objects or people without damaging them, and -on the opposite end of the spectrum- inducing powerful vibrations inside of objects or people to damage them very badly. Taylor is apparently borrowing her gauntlets.

    Of course, only one person knows if any of that will actually be relevant in this story, but eh. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
     
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    Lunaryon said:
    *SHIP SPECS*
    *SNIPPED FOR SPACE*
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    newwriter said:
    Is that enough guns? I thought that Helicarriers from the MCU had more direct gun armaments?
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    The guns sound about right if the load-out is based on a modern Ford-Class carrier and the Repulsors are supposed to replace the Phalanx CIWS, though the missile count is a bit light.

    Other than that, I'd only offer two suggestions:

    First, it feels wrong for something with 4-engine symmetry like that to have 3x each of the gun- and repulsor-mounts. Like it should have 4x spaced out fore/aft and port/starboard, if you know what I mean?

    Second, the comic-book specs have traditionally mentioned the Helicarriers as having ICBM capability, so maybe throw some Tomahawks in there? Not even TLAM-Ns with the W80 nuclear warheads... though the freak-out when others figure it out would be interesting... just the conventional (TLAM-C or TLAM Block IV) and cluster-bomb dispenser (TLAM-D) versions.
     
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    With repulsor based lift she doesn't 'just' have four gun placements. She could refocus one fairly easily without losing lift --they would never send something that big up without multiple levels of redundancy in each mount as well as being able to limp with any two active.

    The three gun mounts sounds like a bow gun and one on each flank, below the deck line but able to angle up or down 180 as well as overlap. This would mean only blind spot is directly behind it, and who tailgates a carrier?

    If they also are repulsor tech, they could provide emergency lift or maneuvering. Besides which, ammunition is dead weight, they would probably use Stark tech smaller scale repulsors in an array on a rounded emitter for flack and antimissile.

    Minor nitpick, why 50 mph? Thats fast for a ship on water but crawling for something in the air.
     
    the .50 cals are redundant they add nothing of any value if you've got them in case of powefailure you might as well keep general purpose machine guns in the armoury there they wont need constant cleaning
     
    Lackofgravitas said:
    the .50 cals are redundant they add nothing of any value if you've got them in case of powefailure you might as well keep general purpose machine guns in the armoury there they wont need constant cleaning
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    Eh, I can see them being used when waterborne like how they are in real life.

    While underway they are sitting in the Arms Room.

    As for the weapon load outs.

    Add another heavy repulsor for balance unless you going with a Essex class layout but with two around the island and one on the keel. The military generally likes to have full coverage since you never know when the enemy may decide to pull a fast one.

    Also add two Phanalx CIWS since that is still the standard, even the Ford class still has a set of three. As much as I hate the thing it stills has its merits and redundancy is always like for weapons.

    Cause bullshit happens.

    Especially since there are no helicruisers or helidestroyers for escort...
     
    Remember she should be pretty much invisible (plus what ever other Stark tech is used to hide the presence of a flying aircraft carrier) the entire time in combat and shouldn't be anywhere near it since she's an aircraft carrier and not a battleship or a destroyer. If she's close she's failed at life as an aircraft carrier. So other than something to balance layout try not to go overboard, since most of this stuff is not rated for use against like 90% of Worm's cast, lol. Ideally most of her fights against Villains should leave them completely in the dark as to who she is.

    Wait... I'm looking at the wiki atm and there is a picture of Zephyr One in space (while cloaked). Can all of the SHIELD stuff, except the f-35's, Growlers and Ospreys I presume, go into space (because the Quinjets can as well, right?) including Taylor herself.
     
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    kahn1234 said:
    Well, she has the proportions of a battleship so I would expect her to have the proportions of a battleshipgirl, if you get my drift.
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    Length normally equates to height and Taylor's already plenty tall.

    Bust size is in most cases related to Armament with battleships being busy thanks to gun caliber. There are exceptions though such as the Atago sisters matching their steel hull top heaviness.
     
    shinkicker444 said:
    Remember she should be pretty much invisible (plus what ever other Stark tech is used to hide the presence of a flying aircraft carrier) the entire time in combat and shouldn't be anywhere near it since she's an aircraft carrier and not a battleship or a destroyer. If she's close she's failed at life as an aircraft carrier. So other than something to balance layout try not to go overboard, since most of this stuff is not rated for use against like 90% of Worm's cast, lol. Ideally most of her fights against Villains should leave them completely in the dark as to who she is.
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    90% of Worm cast is not rated against real life weapons. Beside higher then brute 6s, which I believe is in the lob missiles at, naval weapons will kill most.
    Also as a reminder, Helicarriers being destroyed is a running joke in marvel.

    In the First Avengers movie you have the fact that two engines down equals crashing, which makes sense.
    Then you have aircraft attacks fun...
    Which is the number one killer of carriers going by history.

    Edit: some more helicarrier crashes gags.

     
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