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-Rosen said:
This comes more from a Day 1 kind of mindset where anything that can potentially be clung to in order to get an initial headspace formed, should be 100% of the time. I'd much rather have an odd-looking shift in opinion like this and actually be oriented than the opposite.
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That's fair, you don't seem to be using it as a crutch since you've voted outside of it. I think my main issue is your post here though. It's not cohesive to me. If you were using the wagon to get an initial layout, would not the motivations behind the wagoners play into that?
 
I'm claiming before I die if I'm still in the lead in 10-15 minutes, FWIW. If anyone wants to stop me, let me know now so that I can summarily ignore such a request.
 
Also for the record I don't like either of the hugh/Shalmoa votes here Today for the same reason I didn't like a potential vote into the Ori/Shalmoa stuff earlier. I'm getting the impression that both sides are tunneling into rather tired discussions that haven't actually developed further than they were when they started. Not that this is any good on its own, but at the same time, I think it's a poor reason to wagon either one of them.
 
-Rosen said:
Also for the record I don't like either of the hugh/Shalmoa votes here Today for the same reason I didn't like a potential vote into the Ori/Shalmoa stuff earlier. I'm getting the impression that both sides are tunneling into rather tired discussions that haven't actually developed further than they were when they started. Not that this is any good on its own, but at the same time, I think it's a poor reason to wagon either one of them.
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Opinnions on Zaealix? :V
 
-Rosen said:
Also for the record I don't like either of the hugh/Shalmoa votes here Today for the same reason I didn't like a potential vote into the Ori/Shalmoa stuff earlier. I'm getting the impression that both sides are tunneling into rather tired discussions that haven't actually developed further than they were when they started. Not that this is any good on its own, but at the same time, I think it's a poor reason to wagon either one of them.
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Also after having sorta done it this time, massive respect to your high effort Day 1s. This is exhausting.
 
Shalmoa said:
That said, if you want to vote Shadell, I'll self-pres there.
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I mean like, same, but you said you'd claim if you were still in the lead and while I don't sus you hard enough to keep voting on you even when it would guarantee my death, I absolutely sus you enough that I think a role claim would be nice :V
 
hugh_donnetono said:
I mean like, same, but you said you'd claim if you were still in the lead and while I don't sus you hard enough to keep voting on you even when it would guarantee my death, I absolutely sus you enough that I think a role claim would be nice :V
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Oh there's a whole barrel of wine associated with that! Me asking for your vote is kinda scummy, but you trying to eek out role info like this is pretty bad too. :V
 
Seven said:
That's fair, you don't seem to be using it as a crutch since you've voted outside of it. I think my main issue is your post here though. It's not cohesive to me. If you were using the wagon to get an initial layout, would not the motivations behind the wagoners play into that?
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Now that I'm going back to look at the context for this post I can see that I definitely misread Nemo's post related to this idea at the time, so that's probably where that comes from. For some reason, I read #91 more as a kind of "well my vote was here the whole time so if the wagon ends up here at EoD I don't actually have to effort Today" idea, which is definitely not what Nemo meant by that.
 
Feck, I didn't get time ot catch up and we're a lot more pages in, someone give me a quick tdlr please.
 
Shalmoa has been continuing the recent trend of trying to lead D1, NAI on its own. Hobo finds the focus on Hugh and the question with only suspicious answers directed to Hugh sus.
The only person to try and lower the Rosen wagon was Shadell, who Rosen is voting. This clears most associatives for Rosen.
I am dying and can't keep a stable trip of thought.
Shadell is arguing for Zone to die because the point where Zone was at in the thread seems convenient for pushing against Shadell.
I can't recall what else is going on
 
For the record, I still think that initial question was really awful.
Here, answering godfather benefits scum by discouraging cop checks, and is therefor scummy. This is pointed out later, but by Nictis, not Shalmoa. It's not reasonable to scumread for it though.
Rereading Shalmoa isn't actually doing any shading (or scumreading? did not verify thoroughly) based on Hugh's answer other than prodding Kingster, which is in fact clearly divinging thouhgts.
 
*eyes timer*
*looks at Hobo's post*
*marks point for Hobo pivoting on scum value*
 
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