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Shattered Justice (A Persona Quest)

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[X] He's weak to lightning. Exploit that.

Beat the Shadow Black and Blue. The longer it's stunned, the longer Yukari has to healing everyone.
 
[X] You're... actually pretty okay with what you're doing, right now.
-[X] "I know you know Koromaru and I are your friends, and if you give them a chance everyone at SEES would gladly be your friend! All of us here want to help people, and that includes you too!"
 
[x] ...There's a teleporter nearby. If you could get your Morgana closer to it, you could... well, okay, there's a decently high chance it'd involve a berserk panther on the first floor of Tartarus. But it could still work!

We've got a Mitsuru down there who currently can't do too much to help right now.
 
NMS said:
[x] ...There's a teleporter nearby. If you could get your Morgana closer to it, you could... well, okay, there's a decently high chance it'd involve a berserk panther on the first floor of Tartarus. But it could still work!

We've got a Mitsuru down there who currently can't do too much to help right now.
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Can she really do much if the rampaging cat shadow gets down there? Considering the very valid concern that Shadow Morgana could wreck her equipment.
 
DarkKing98 said:
Why is Hope a cat?
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Look, they both like boxes.:V
DarkKing98 said:
...you mean doing fuck all and letting everyone and ourself get our ass beat?
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Casting/atttacking is probably a good idea, yes. Especially given Shadow Mona probably gained something in switching to Phase 2. I'm not sure fleeing with Morgana would actually work well unless we're baiting Shadow Mona into it.
(Worst comes to worst, blasting and arguing with Shadow Mona can be done at the same time.
 
Grue said:
Casting/atttacking is probably a good idea, yes. Especially given Shadow Mona probably gained something in switching to Phase 2. I'm not sure fleeing with Morgana would actually work well unless we're baiting Shadow Mona into it.
(Worst comes to worst, blasting and arguing with Shadow Mona can be done at the same time.
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Except we're not even arguing with Shadow Mona. We're just standing there. Doing nothing. Except the one time we tried poking him with our spear, when everyone else has let off multiple spells/attacks. We basically are just being dead weight, and that option is continuing to be dead weight. IT's not helping Yukari heal people, it's not helping Akihiko keep Shadow Mona down and not fighting for a period of time, and it's not helping Koromaru deal damage to the cat to beat it to the point that it stops rampaging and goes back to its regular form.
 
[X] Takeba-san clearly can't handle everyone's healing needs on her own. You should help her with that.
 
DarkKing98 said:
Except we're not even arguing with Shadow Mona. We're just standing there. Doing nothing. Except the one time we tried poking him with our spear, when everyone else has let off multiple spells/attacks. We basically are just being dead weight, and that option is continuing to be dead weight. IT's not helping Yukari heal people, it's not helping Akihiko keep Shadow Mona down and not fighting for a period of time, and it's not helping Koromaru deal damage to the cat to beat it to the point that it stops rampaging and goes back to its regular form.
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Ken turns were to go defend Morgana, stab the shadow with his spear and then threw Zio at him after he got knocked down. Ken did some damage, he simply does not have the high stats to contribute to this as much as Akihiko and Koromaru, and Shadow Mona did try to hit Morgana, so what we did was clearly a good move. I think we should heal but not argue with the Shadow, actions speak louder than words after all.
 
Fpkfor said:
Ken turns were to go defend Morgana, stab the shadow with his spear and then threw Zio at him after he got knocked down. Ken did some damage, he simply does not have the high stats to contribute to this as much as Akihiko and Koromaru, and Shadow Mona did try to hit Morgana, so what we did was clearly a good move. I think we should heal but not argue with the Shadow, actions speak louder than words after all.
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Ah right, we contributed to basically an All Out Attack after Akihiko knocked Shadow Morgana down. But still, the option is basically doing nothing besides being deadweight.

And soon the dead part won't be an idiom.
 
DarkKing98 said:
Ah right, we contributed to basically an All Out Attack after Akihiko knocked Shadow Morgana down. But still, the option is basically doing nothing besides being deadweight.

And soon the dead part won't be an idiom.
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Ken took 8 damage per attack while the shadow was under Tarunda, and there is no mention of him being healed so he is not going to die that easily. And if necessary he can just Channel Dia himself to full health or use Transference Shield. We protected Morgana from taking a hit from his shadow as well, which almost certainly helps in making sure he is actually conscious after the fight to talk to his shadow.

Edit: Mind you, i still think blasting him is a good idea, but i think Ken should either heal himself or be healed by Yukari just so that he can concentrate on that.
 
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[X] He's weak to lightning. Exploit that.

The faster this is over with, the less likely anyone's gonna get killed.
 
Fpkfor said:
Ken took 8 damage per attack while the shadow was under Tarunda, and there is no mention of him being healed so he is not going to die that easily. And if necessary he can just Channel Dia himself to full health or use Transference Shield. We protected Morgana from taking a hit from his shadow as well, which almost certainly helps in making sure he is actually conscious after the fight to talk to his shadow.

Edit: Mind you, i still think blasting him is a good idea, but i think Ken should either heal himself or be healed by Yukari just so that he can concentrate on that.
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What I really don't get is the idea that blasting Shadow Mona wouldn't be defending Morgana. Like, how do you come to the idea that stopping a threat doesn't save/protect the one being threatened. Also, I don't recall having Transference Shield. Also also, doesn't that take up all of our SP?
 
[X] You're... actually pretty okay with what you're doing, right now.
 
DarkKing98 said:
What I really don't get is the idea that blasting Shadow Mona wouldn't be defending Morgana. Like, how do you come to the idea that stopping a threat doesn't save/protect the one being threatened. Also, I don't recall having Transference Shield. Also also, doesn't that take up all of our SP?
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How can you not recall having Transference Shield if you just said it takes all of our SP? and no to the last question, Transference Shield just makes damage go to SP instead of HP, if we got hit by 71 damage then we would lose all our SP.

Edit: Just read again the first part, removed a part of my comment
 
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Fpkfor said:
How can you not recall having Transference Shield if you just said it takes all of our SP? and no to the last question, Transference Shield just makes damage go to SP instead of HP, if we got hit by 71 damage then we would lose all our SP.

Edit: Just read again the first part, removed a part of my comment
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Because I can recall it being talked about and not recalling having it doesn't mean it couldn't have been talked about in terms of theory.
 
[X] You're... actually pretty okay with what you're doing, right now.
-[X] "I know you know Koromaru and I are your friends, and if you give them a chance everyone at SEES would gladly be your friend! All of us here want to help people, and that includes you too!"
 
Kkutlord said:
-[X] "I know you know Koromaru and I are your friends, and if you give them a chance everyone at SEES would gladly be your friend! All of us here want to help people, and that includes you too!"
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Why. No seriously, what is the point of this? Are you trying to talk down the Shadow? Cuz that never works. Serious question here. Do you even understand what the hell is happening right now in the quest?
 
DarkKing98 said:
Why. No seriously, what is the point of this? Are you trying to talk down the Shadow? Cuz that never works. Serious question here. Do you even understand what the hell is happening right now in the quest?
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It isn't an option to talk down Shadow Selves in P4, so it is more "nobody ever tried" than "it never works". Even if you count the "Real" Self's reaction, they always try to deny what their Shadow says.

Besides that, Morgana would hear it, and it doesn't matter if we beat Shadow Mona if Morgana still doesn't accept those feelings. We do not need an eldritch cat/god hybrid running around. That, and we don't know what would happen if Morgana doesn't re-accept himself, since he's hardly a normal being.
 
Kkutlord said:
Besides that, Morgana would hear it, and it doesn't matter if we beat Shadow Mona if Morgana still doesn't accept those feelings. We do not need an eldritch cat/god hybrid running around. That, and we don't know what would happen if Morgana doesn't re-accept himself, since he's hardly a normal being.
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...seriously? Are you actually serious?
SeekerofDreams said:
"Shut up!" The regular cat yowls. "You can't tell me who to be friends with! You're not me!" And then he freezes. "Um... can I get a take back on that?"
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Do you just ignore the parts of the quest that goes against what you're saying? Or are you just trying to piss me off?
 
@DarkKing98: If Morgana didn't mean any of what he said, then saying "you're not me" shouldn't have done anything. There's a difference between knowing you messed up, and actually agreeing with what you're told.
 
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