Shattered Justice (A Persona Quest)
- Thread starter SeekerofDreams
- Start date
Hey, @SeekerofDreams . Since the update was titled "Almost the Right Thing" can you tell us what the right thing to do actually was? Or would that be spoilers/metagaming?
Jack of Olives
Rolled a '3' on their Con score
- Location
- The land of fruits and nuts (California)
[X] Talk to Akihiko-san.
-[x] Is there a particular reason the air has more static in it than usual? (+Empathy)
It may be nothing, but we should probably check.
-[x] Is there a particular reason the air has more static in it than usual? (+Empathy)
It may be nothing, but we should probably check.
InquiQual
Emanator of Mythus, the Enigmata
- Location
- The Astral Express
[X] Talk to Akihiko-san.
-[x] Is there a particular reason the air has more static in it than usual? (+Empathy)
It's probably just anxiety regarding going back to the place with the whole Reaper thing.
-[x] Is there a particular reason the air has more static in it than usual? (+Empathy)
It's probably just anxiety regarding going back to the place with the whole Reaper thing.
SeekerofDreams
Aspiring Farmer
- Location
- Selphia
So, I've finally worked out exactly which status ailments I want to include, I've updated the mechanics to include them, go check it out if you want to know what you'll eventually be dealing with. Or seeing the others use. Or trying to cure people from.
Some of them may be a bit more debilitating than others.
Some of them may be a bit more debilitating than others.
God, curse is scary. Take as much dmg as deal? It might not be that problematic with the weakest of Shadows, since we can one-shot them, but anything harder than that? Especially bosses, if we have to fight a curse using boss, we will freaking die, unless Yukari gets Parma and Parma works on curses, or we buy en masse curse-healing items.
Also @SeekerofDreams , a question regarding Charm. They way you made it work in combat is that the charm-user controls the victim, but how exactly? Can the user give commands mentally, or do they need to be spoken? Also, how precise are the commands? Are they more of "kill that guy" and the victim simply does their best to kill that guy, or does user need to be more specific, like "attack that guy with your weapon" or "attack that guy with bufu"? Also, if not given any commands, how will charmed person behave? Stand in place and do nothing? Protect the charm-user if they are attacked? Protect themselves? Attack people the charm-user considers enemies?
Also @SeekerofDreams , a question regarding Charm. They way you made it work in combat is that the charm-user controls the victim, but how exactly? Can the user give commands mentally, or do they need to be spoken? Also, how precise are the commands? Are they more of "kill that guy" and the victim simply does their best to kill that guy, or does user need to be more specific, like "attack that guy with your weapon" or "attack that guy with bufu"? Also, if not given any commands, how will charmed person behave? Stand in place and do nothing? Protect the charm-user if they are attacked? Protect themselves? Attack people the charm-user considers enemies?
SeekerofDreams
Aspiring Farmer
- Location
- Selphia
Mental commands, because otherwise Shadows using Marin Karin and the like would be... hilariously ineffective. And they don't have to be specific commands- actually, the more vague they are, the easier it is to control multiple enemies at a time. Though, yes, the user can still be as precise as they want if they're only trying to handle one drone.
As for going without orders... well, humans will go back to acting on their own initiatives until a new command is given, while regular Shadows will continue to try and fulfill as close to the most recent order as possible until told otherwise. If they've never been given an order, they'll just act as they normally do, but in ways that benefit the caster of the spell.
Generally, though, when Shadows use Charm they just try and scramble your allegiances because they don't have the intelligence for anything more. It's humans that pull out the terrifying stuff. Like Mitsuru's six bug pileup.
(Also, a word of advice for the future: Ken being Charmed is one of the worst things that could happen to any party he's in, because he has the instant death spells. So try to avoid that.)
DarkKing98
Certified Village Idiot
- Location
- USA
Doesn't the same apply to Koromaru?
SeekerofDreams
Aspiring Farmer
- Location
- Selphia
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SeekerofDreams
Aspiring Farmer
- Location
- Selphia
Okay, let's see how this goes...
Let's just see if you might have to worry about Aki burning through his magic before the first boss. That would be... not an insurmountable problem, but it'd still be a slight inconvenience.
...Let us all have a moment of silence for the Shadows of Thebel Block. Poor things never stood a chance.
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Let's just see if you might have to worry about Aki burning through his magic before the first boss. That would be... not an insurmountable problem, but it'd still be a slight inconvenience.
...Let us all have a moment of silence for the Shadows of Thebel Block. Poor things never stood a chance.
Tartarus
SeekerofDreams
Aspiring Farmer
- Location
- Selphia
It doesn't take you too long to realize that the air has more static in it than usual. Mostly because you can see Koromaru's fur start to stand up on end. As SEES only has two lightning users, and you know you're not doing this, that leaves one person as the cause.
"Akihiko-san, are you all right?" You're pretty sure causing this won't burn through too much of his magic, given just how easily the Shadows have been defeated so far, and he's more than capable of fighting without it, but you aren't sure you should be taking chances here.
Not when you still aren't sure of everything you'll be facing.
Akihiko-san nods, not paying anything any particular attention. "Why do you ask?"
"Well, everything's kind of..." You try to think of a good word, but can't find any. "...I don't think I'd need Zio to shock somebody right now." It wouldn't be a very strong shock, compared to the kind of thing you can do when you dedicate your magic to it, but you could still deliver an electric shock without aid of your powers, and given that you've just been walking down the city streets, it's almost certainly Akihiko-san's fault.
And here you discover the downside of being immune to the main element you use.
"Oh, I... hadn't noticed that." You think that's a bad thing, if he doesn't even notice when his powers are in use, but you don't really think there's a good way to bring that up. Still, the air starts clearing up almost immediately, and you can see Takeba-san start to breathe easier now.
It comes to mind that someone who's weak to lightning maybe shouldn't be leading a team where half of the active combat roster shoots lightning, but it's not like anyone ever asked for your opinion.
At the very least, she's probably not going to underestimate the amount of damage that your powers can do. Given that confidence doesn't seem to be her strong suit, that just might help.
Still, she's not the priority right now. It's Akihiko-san. "Is there any reason it was like that?"
Really, though, if you end up having to remove a charge from the air using your own power later, you'd at least like to know the reason. If there is one.
If not, there's a problem, and you'd probably like to know that, too.
He shrugs, which might not be a good thing, but there's no way to tell until he opens his mouth. "It... could be a few things. I mean, we haven't really gone to Tartarus all that much. And even when we were there, we just... never did anything. It'll be nice to be able to cut loose properly."
You make a mental note that, if something seems to pose a challenge, you should probably be on the lookout for errant lightning bolts. Just in case.
"What about those beetles?" Really, they're sort of hard to forget, even if Mitsuru-san had the most impressive part in all of it.
"They weren't strong enough to stand a real chance, they were just annoying." You think that might just be how he describes most things that he can't punch away, even if he is generally making the effort to actually deal with them. "And Mitsuru got most of them, anyway." You aren't sure, but you think that last part might be the one he's most annoyed by.
"She handled it really well, though," You point out. "Even if it was..." You don't want to say it was absolutely terrifying where she can hear you, but it kind of was.
I'm not sure how, but she managed to Charm a tank once. It was amazing.
Not that you absolutely have to finish that sentence or anything, because Gekkoukan High soon appears in front of you, and almost as soon as you reach the gates, the world shifts into the Dark Hour.
You have no idea how that was so well timed, but something tells you it probably won't be happening again.
Then again, you live in a world where someone can just drive a motorcycle right through the front entrance of a tower, so maybe things will line up that way again. Possibly.
I mean, if there's one way to get teenagers to be consistent, you just have to set up something suitably dramatic.
You aren't betting on it, though.
When Takeba-san first sees the inside of Tartarus, she actually stops to look around. You don't blame her- you have no idea what this room alone would cost to recreate, but somehow you think even Mitsuru-san would have second thoughts about it just from looking at the price tag.
And then when you realize there are floors made with actual gold...
"So... we're supposed to climb up this thing? How many floors are there?"
"I'm not sure," Mitsuru-san admits. "There appears to be something preventing my powers from reaching beyond the sixteenth floor. Though... let's focus on the Shadows on the fifth floor for now."
"A- all right, then." Takeba-san walks up to the stairs, bow in hand. "Are you guys ready?"
You and Akihiko-san nod. Koromaru barks. And then you all start to climb the tower.
Your formation isn't quite in a straight line, but it sort of exists, with Takeba-san leading the way and you're...
[ ] Close to Takeba-san.
[ ] More or less in the middle.
[ ] Bringing up the rear.
"Akihiko-san, are you all right?" You're pretty sure causing this won't burn through too much of his magic, given just how easily the Shadows have been defeated so far, and he's more than capable of fighting without it, but you aren't sure you should be taking chances here.
Not when you still aren't sure of everything you'll be facing.
Akihiko-san nods, not paying anything any particular attention. "Why do you ask?"
"Well, everything's kind of..." You try to think of a good word, but can't find any. "...I don't think I'd need Zio to shock somebody right now." It wouldn't be a very strong shock, compared to the kind of thing you can do when you dedicate your magic to it, but you could still deliver an electric shock without aid of your powers, and given that you've just been walking down the city streets, it's almost certainly Akihiko-san's fault.
And here you discover the downside of being immune to the main element you use.
"Oh, I... hadn't noticed that." You think that's a bad thing, if he doesn't even notice when his powers are in use, but you don't really think there's a good way to bring that up. Still, the air starts clearing up almost immediately, and you can see Takeba-san start to breathe easier now.
It comes to mind that someone who's weak to lightning maybe shouldn't be leading a team where half of the active combat roster shoots lightning, but it's not like anyone ever asked for your opinion.
At the very least, she's probably not going to underestimate the amount of damage that your powers can do. Given that confidence doesn't seem to be her strong suit, that just might help.
Still, she's not the priority right now. It's Akihiko-san. "Is there any reason it was like that?"
Really, though, if you end up having to remove a charge from the air using your own power later, you'd at least like to know the reason. If there is one.
If not, there's a problem, and you'd probably like to know that, too.
He shrugs, which might not be a good thing, but there's no way to tell until he opens his mouth. "It... could be a few things. I mean, we haven't really gone to Tartarus all that much. And even when we were there, we just... never did anything. It'll be nice to be able to cut loose properly."
You make a mental note that, if something seems to pose a challenge, you should probably be on the lookout for errant lightning bolts. Just in case.
"What about those beetles?" Really, they're sort of hard to forget, even if Mitsuru-san had the most impressive part in all of it.
"They weren't strong enough to stand a real chance, they were just annoying." You think that might just be how he describes most things that he can't punch away, even if he is generally making the effort to actually deal with them. "And Mitsuru got most of them, anyway." You aren't sure, but you think that last part might be the one he's most annoyed by.
"She handled it really well, though," You point out. "Even if it was..." You don't want to say it was absolutely terrifying where she can hear you, but it kind of was.
I'm not sure how, but she managed to Charm a tank once. It was amazing.
Not that you absolutely have to finish that sentence or anything, because Gekkoukan High soon appears in front of you, and almost as soon as you reach the gates, the world shifts into the Dark Hour.
You have no idea how that was so well timed, but something tells you it probably won't be happening again.
Then again, you live in a world where someone can just drive a motorcycle right through the front entrance of a tower, so maybe things will line up that way again. Possibly.
I mean, if there's one way to get teenagers to be consistent, you just have to set up something suitably dramatic.
You aren't betting on it, though.
When Takeba-san first sees the inside of Tartarus, she actually stops to look around. You don't blame her- you have no idea what this room alone would cost to recreate, but somehow you think even Mitsuru-san would have second thoughts about it just from looking at the price tag.
And then when you realize there are floors made with actual gold...
"So... we're supposed to climb up this thing? How many floors are there?"
"I'm not sure," Mitsuru-san admits. "There appears to be something preventing my powers from reaching beyond the sixteenth floor. Though... let's focus on the Shadows on the fifth floor for now."
"A- all right, then." Takeba-san walks up to the stairs, bow in hand. "Are you guys ready?"
You and Akihiko-san nod. Koromaru barks. And then you all start to climb the tower.
Your formation isn't quite in a straight line, but it sort of exists, with Takeba-san leading the way and you're...
[ ] Close to Takeba-san.
[ ] More or less in the middle.
[ ] Bringing up the rear.
DarkKing98
Certified Village Idiot
- Location
- USA
[X] More or less in the middle.
Ya know, I gotta wonder if we ever can, we could comment it may be through some flooding of life energy at a certain point, whatever life energy is. If they ask, tell them to ask Lavenza.
Ya know, I gotta wonder if we ever can, we could comment it may be through some flooding of life energy at a certain point, whatever life energy is. If they ask, tell them to ask Lavenza.
- Location
- Brazil
Koromaru does not have the dubious honor of being the Persona user with the potential highest luck in the world that can Natural Channel Instant-Kill spells.
That also gets a ton of SP to spam those spells with.
Although the reason he is so dangerous is why those status last so little on him. Since Luck also affects that.
[X] Close to Takeba-san.
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