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Semper Ad Meliora (Code Geass/Britannian Royalty Quest)

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Ptolemy said:
I don't that @ThatGuyWithIdeas is fear mongering. They are instead making the salient point that cyber security, and lack thereof, is very important. It's no more fear mongering than suggesting we miss out on the opportunity of researching psionics by not getting Kenshin Jaegar. There are costs to going with any option instead of the others, and being reminded of that is simply common sense.

Like I said above, it's also ridiculous to act as if this guy, almost the equivalent of Lloyd Asplund in brilliance, is some kind of dime-a-dozen computer hacker. If anything, you're doing exactly what you accused @ThatGuyWithIdeas of doing, and are being "insulting to the QM by implying that they are pretty much railroading us into this choice" with the suggestion that Bertrand Smith is apparently just some worthless scrub, instead of a nigh unparalleled and absolute genius in his field.

As it is, I still haven't decided which advisor I want to get, as I'm torn between Bertrand and Kenshin, but I really dislike the arguments you all are making in favour of Kenshin.
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...I never implied that a someone like Bertrand was a dime a dozen. Just mentioned that it seems like hackers at least near his level are more common than people like Kenshin who seems pretty crazy even for an advisor and seems to know a bit more about psionics. Note, psionics seems like a far less common field than those cyber related since most of the world is into cyberization. After all it seems like we would still be able to hire entire teams for cyber security anyway.

And no, no one is saying we would be missing out on learning about psionics if we don't pick up Kenshin. People are just stating that all sides have their pros and cons with some viewing some with more pros or cons than others. The reason I view what that poster was doing as fear mongering is the way he made come across that we absolutely needed that guy or else. Like, I seriously doubt that the QM would screw us over because we didn't pick a specific choice and you don't see me complaining about the others that put up valid argumetns for the guy as well.
 
[X] Dr. Kenshin Jaegar

All of these choices are simply awesome!
25 learning for all means it's down to their traits and specialties, which Psionics is definitely the coolest imo.

Yeah everyone else plays with their blocks of "hard" matter, while we will work with what is truly intangible, and make it tangible!
 
JaceAoT said:
So that's really interesting, seeing as I feel Bertrand Smith is the one most likely doing something that's really bad for us.
Dr Kenshin Jaegar is a well-known lunatic, and it's more specifically well-known that he's a lunatic. If he says something insane, people won't be too offended. This is even reflected in the mechanics.


Moreover his partner is completely sane. She is likely used to making excuses for his bad behaviour and I'd say it's more than likely she keeps his insanity at bay in some sense, restricting the really crazy crazy that's probably inside him.


Bertrand Smith on the other hand is well-known to do criminal things and have an almost complete disregard for what is against the law. The update specifically states that he likes doing things that are against the law for thrill.


In addition his partner has the same flaws and they complement each other in this bad behaviour.

All in all these seem like the sort of people we don't want to be our problem. The intrigue seems to suit us nicely, but it's really not in a way that I would like us to do intrigue.
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What I meant by practical is that Bertrand skills dovetail nicely into ours and that I absolutely DO NOT WANT the little bastard to join OSI where there's a non-zero chance he'll end up scrutinizing us in the future.
This as much about denying his service to everyone else as it is about getting him for ourselves, really.
 
Plausitivity said:
[X] Dr. Kenshin Jaegar

All of these choices are simply awesome!
25 learning for all means it's down to their traits and specialties, which Psionics is definitely the coolest imo.

Yeah everyone else plays with their blocks of "hard" matter, while we will work with what is truly intangible, and make it tangible!
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I'm low-key thinking about a sakuradite cottage industry where we use psionics to inflate Australia's economic value.
 
Deathwings said:
What I meant by practical is that Bertrand skills dovetail nicely into ours and that I absolutely DO NOT WANT the little bastard to join OSI where there's a non-zero chance he'll end up scrutinizing us in the future.
This as much about denying his service to everyone else as it is about getting him for ourselves, really.
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We'll have mind control ready for him by then. Good luck working against us >:3
 
Tjakari said:
I'm low-key thinking about a sakuradite cottage industry where we use psionics to inflate Australia's economic value.
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We pretty much have our magical artifact teaching us about that, taking in a guy who obviously is warning everyone about shadowy organisation (Geas Order) will definitely make said shadowy organisation take interest in us. And well if they find out that we have magic artifact containing immense knowledge about Psinionic that could help them with their goal you can bet they will want said artifact for themselves.
 
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Bertrand Smith & Su Tollard: Advanced Learning actions open up in Cyber-warfare, Cyber-security, and Unmanned Drones. Special Feature: Imperial Ethics - They enable law-breaking actions against the Britannian Empire itself as long as they can be justified for it's long-term gain and prosperity.
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Bert & Su brings their seemingly unique tech options on top of their political leeway in hacking into fellow Britannian networks. Both of which were not open to us before and is unlikely to show up again in this combination.

Dr. Jaegar & Dr. Hashima: Advanced Learning options open up in Psionics, Archaeology, and Astrophysics. Special Feature: Unorthodoxy - Projects will not require any level of political support, approval, or viability to Britannia at large.
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The Dr2​ bring with them the advanced Psionics, Archaeology, and Astrophysics, all options that requires a lot more resources and funds that we currently do not have. Projects being an non-entity to the empire is good since no one cares about the works of the mad man, but PAA are niche to begin with and Lulu already have an "in" in fields of Psionics / Archaeology thanks to traits.
 
[X] Dr. Kenshin Jaegar

He's got my vote, we have to stop the Organisation.

Jokes aside, he does sound like an opportunity to pursue an area of science hardly explored in the series. This will give us an element of surprise which could be priceless in a variety of situations.
 
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Can I just say Bertrand Smith specializes in Mechs. THE reason we wanted Lloyd was because of his specialization in building Gund-Knightmares
 
[ ] Dr. Hugo Zhishi

It's Doctor J, the Gundam Scientist! I know I'm throwing my vote away but I don't care.

I might switch my vote later, I just wanted to put my first choice out there.
 
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[X] Bertrand Smith

Coding and drones could easily mesh well into an advanced Knightmare. But really, having drones added to our retinue would be a fantastic addition. Not to mention the insane possibilities of having that kind of intrigue domination.
 
35:30:4

Dr2​ leading. A nice turnout.
Adhoc vote count started by VoidZero on Jul 10, 2019 at 2:47 PM, finished with 96 posts and 69 votes.
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Jaeger seems more like Piety advisor than Learning advisor. We can recruit a more specialized piety advisor later, we need to tech up now. Psychic is super rare and not all our enemy has it, we need not a counter to what other people don't have but a counter to what most people have.

We already roll high on our piety but rolled low on Lingua Coda few updates back. We need cyber security and drones as force multiplier to reduce our lack of abilities in tech.
 
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BioWolf said:
THE reason we wanted Lloyd was because of his specialization in building Gund-Knightmares
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Actually people wanted LLoyd because he is outright one of the best scientists in the series with only one other person being his equal. His specialty just happens to be knightmare frames.

Alyuna said:
Jaeger seems more like Piety advisor than Learning advisor. We can recruit a more specialized piety advisor later,we need to tech up now. Psychic is super rare and not all our enemy has it, we need not a counter to what other people don't have but a counter to what most people have.
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It should be noted that the QM outrgiht mentioned that piety and learning could work well together since we found the orb IIRC. We may be able to get something like magi tech with enough piety/learning research. Remember that our last piety option also unlocked more learning actions as well. The fact that Jaeger is a learning advisor along with being well versed in piety research seems like he may be one of the best options to get it or unlock the piety and learning tech tree. I mean it's outright implied that Sakurite which is used in knightmare frames was created by an ancient society using psy techniques.

While yes Mr hacker is talented we can literally also hire a team of cyber experts. So yes while he would be nice to have for that it would really not make any sense for us to not be able to hire any other experts in said area.
 
Red Bovine said:
It should be noted that the QM outrgiht mentioned that piety and learning could work well together since we found the orb IIRC. We may be able to get something like magi tech with enough piety/learning research. Remember that our last piety option also unlocked more learning actions as well. The fact that Jaeger is a learning advisor along with being well versed in piety research seems like he may be one of the best options to get it or unlock the piety and learning tech tree. I mean it's outright implied that Sakurite which is used in knightmare frames was created by an ancient society using psy techniques.

While yes Mr hacker is talented we can literally also hire a team of cyber experts. So yes while he would be nice to have for that it would really not make any sense for us to not be able to hire any other experts in said area
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Both can works well yes, but why dedicate one Learning Advisor to piety research when you can recruit a truly specialized Piety Advisor?

I prefer Piety Advisor than Learning Advisor specialized in Piety.
 
Alyuna said:
Both can works well yes, but why dedicate one Learning Advisor to piety research when you can recruit a truly specialized Piety Advisor?

I prefer Piety Advisor than Learning Advisor specialized in Piety.
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As mentioned seeing as the guy is literally a learning advisor he seems like perhaps the best chance to find someone to help us researching psy tech. Because honestly it seems unlikely that we would find a piety advisor that also happens to be good at tech.
 
Blonddude42 said:
@Slayer Anderson who controls the OSI? I thought it was controlled by the Emperor, and it seemed to have deep connections canonically to the Geass Directorate. How does it work here?
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To the best of Lelouch's knowledge, the OSI answers directly to the Emperor and advises leading members of Parliament and the Government on various topics. Outside of that, Lelouch doesn't know the particulars of its hierarchy or structure, merely that field agents report to higher-ups, who report to some kind of division head, who all report to a series of organization-heads. There's probably an overall 'boss' of the entire organization, yes, but if there is and whoever it is, is a closely guarded secret.

I'm still at work and we have close contenders for the lead, looks like I'll be leaving it open for the full 24 hours at this point. Voting remains open for 12 hours at least and I applaud the discussion as long as it remains civil.
 
[X] Dr. Kenshin Jaegar

Well, this was the sort of learning adviser I said I was interested in after our massive success with our piety actions, so count me in on this one.
 
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