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Rising Sun (Code Geass/Arpeggio Of Blue Steel SI)

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obssesednuker said:
We do know those exist. Shirley's dad was one of them.
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Are...we talking about the same Shirley's Dad who was part of the Area 11 Geass Directorate? Or am I mistaking common fanon for canon? Because I'm fairly sure I recall her Dad being part of the experiments on CC, the Geass facility was why he was in the area to get killed in the crossfire.
 
obssesednuker said:
By the way, calling it now: the Fog is going to inadvertently wind up killing Shirley's dad. :V
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Nay the Fog aren't going to kill Shirley's dad, there'd be no point. After all every thing I've seen so far say's that Youko and Yuzuki wouldn't care if they or their subordinates killed him, at most it'd probably rate an "Oh, ah . . . ops? Well at least now Shirley won't go all crazy on Lelouch if she finds out he's Zero." there wouldn't be any drama or real consequence since as far as I can tell Shirley was only ever important because Lelouch cared about her. Now if the Fog accidentally killed Shirley herself that would be a whole other can of worms.
 
menosay said:
there wouldn't be any drama or real consequence since as far as I can tell Shirley was only ever important because Lelouch cared about her. Now if the Fog accidentally killed Shirley herself that would be a whole other can of worms.
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Shirley's importance is limited to the fact that Lelouch cares about her to a degree, she cares about him, and that they know each other. It's the only reason why Mao picked her to mess with Zero, instead of Millicent or someone else from his circle.

He probably could have done the same thing with anyone else from the Student Council and gotten similar results, Shirley was just the easiest and most vulnerable. She's kind've a walking plot hook and not much else.
 
menosay said:
. Now if the Fog accidentally killed Shirley herself that would be a whole other can of worms.
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*** Later ***

Yuzuki giggled over the link. "Hey guys, this may sound bad, but we kinda just killed Shirley... that changes things right?"

Haruna replies, "Yeah, that changes alot actually. We're in uncharted waters now."





Hyuuga, "Perfect! I want to see how Geass works, anyone want to help me cut off Lelouche's head and dissect his brain?"

And that's the story of how Hyuuga made killing off Shirley completely irrelavent. And also the story of how the FOG gained super powers. Cuz they totally needed superpowers.
 
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Akritedes said:
Shirley's importance is limited to the fact that Lelouch cares about her to a degree, she cares about him, and that they know each other. It's the only reason why Mao picked her to mess with Zero, instead of Millicent or someone else from his circle.
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Yea that's pretty much what I meant to imply.
 
Dave said:
One that they clearly need if they want to survive.
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Umm what? Geass may be powerful but the vast majority effect human minds, which the Fog do not have. They are also generally very short ranged (30-50 feet or less) meaning the user would have to use a ship or plane to close with a Fog vessel.

End result, Geass user dies from a single particle cannon blast.

This isn't the Nasu-verse where Ancient Magic! trumps anything modern and the Geass users aren't Gilgamesh.
 
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I was being slightly ironic. I dont really think nanotech seed AI truly needs super powers to be competitive.

Edit: Self replicating. Self replicating nanotech seed AI. Also. Multi-dimensional.
 
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Dave said:
I was being slightly ironic. I dont really think nanotech seed AI truly needs super powers to be competitive.
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Sorry. The 'magic/superpower/eldritch abilities must automatically be more powerful then science/technology' thing has always been a sore spot in fiction for me.

I don't mind if one beats the other, just that it make sense instead of just saying 'it must be this way'.
 
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    • Things that may or may not happen:

    "It's a win-win situation Zero. Because the distraction caused by making you talk to me has almost certainly allowed my prey to start running to their newest hiding place."

    "Euphemia Le Britannia, the only reason I'm letting you go is because one day you will betray your promise."

    "Do you really believe that arrogant naivety of yours can change a system that is hundreds of years old? You aren't looking for change, you're looking for martyrdom."

    "I'm serious Zero. You think I'm the only scientist who has been trying to copy that Red Sakuradite weapon?"

    "BUR-NING! LO-VE!"

    "What are they singing?" "The Gamilas Anthem, I thought it was a good way to encourage solidarity."

    "BRITANNIA! Interfere with my duel, and one of your major cities will cease to exist!"
     
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    • jwolfe_beta said:
    Sorry. The 'magic/superpower/eldritch abilities must automatically be more powerful then science/technology' thing has always been a sore spot in fiction for me.

    I don't mind if one beats the other, just that it make sense instead of just saying 'it must be this way'.
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    Yeah, I get that. I was trying for "killing Shirley makes butterflies. Fuck it, let's kill Lelouch as well. It's not like he's plot important or anything."

    Spoiler alert: Lelouch is plot important.
     
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    Given that someone was just dropped into the universe, I wonder how the group that the geass chick from akito is a part of would react. After all, they claim to be the ones who maintain the balance of spacetime (and they seem to possess the ability to fuck with reality).
     
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    Gideon020 said:
    "BUR-NING! LO-VE!"
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    Sleepy100 said:
    Please, please, please install this in Fog Kongou.
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    There is something like that out there. Here's the first four pages on pixiv, but you'll need to hunt around on Danbooru to find the full version with the little boxes you can move your mouse over to see it in English. The two Kongous get bodyswapped and Kongou says the Burning Love line on the 4th page. I can pm the link to you if you want.
     
    I'm rather curious what Japan being cut off from the Britannian Empire will do. I'm guessing the resistance will be able to overcome the Britanian occupiers and we'll get to see some reverse genocide. They kinda have it coming and the japanese aren't exactly known for their humanitarianism anyway.
     
    Beyogi said:
    I'm rather curious what Japan being cut off from the Britannian Empire will do. I'm guessing the resistance will be able to overcome the Britanian occupiers and we'll get to see some reverse genocide. They kinda have it coming and the japanese aren't exactly known for their humanitarianism anyway.
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    Well, it's debatable whether that would happens. The occupation forces are quite a bit stronger than the resistances, and they too will suffer from the blockade. If the Britannian got overthrown in one of their colony, it would certainly not be a fast affair.
     
    Generalissimo said:
    It's not a proper Code Geass type SI without you accidentally killing Shirley's dad.
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    Einsig said:
    *stares*
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    To be fair, Einsig, you should expect it given her father's name is Gwen Stacy 'Uncle Ben' Fenette. :p

    Gideon020 said:
    EDIT: Also, while Youko hasn't done any hacking, you didn't actually think Yuzuki just spent the last few weeks braiding her twin's hair, did you?
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    If you hair is half as lovely as I imagine it is from the descriptions of it, I probably would.
     
    meganeshounen said:
    Slightly amused to see Einsig also hanging out here.
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    Hanging around, yes, if only for curiosity.

    To be blunt, I don't like this that much. No I don't expect him to do it the same way I did, but the whole "mass murdering powertrip" thing grates on me as a matter of principle.

    Not my story, so not gonna tell Gideon how to write it.
     
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    menosay said:
    Nay the Fog aren't going to kill Shirley's dad, there'd be no point. After all every thing I've seen so far say's that Youko and Yuzuki wouldn't care if they or their subordinates killed him, at most it'd probably rate an "Oh, ah . . . ops? Well at least now Shirley won't go all crazy on Lelouch if she finds out he's Zero." there wouldn't be any drama or real consequence since as far as I can tell Shirley was only ever important because Lelouch cared about her. Now if the Fog accidentally killed Shirley herself that would be a whole other can of worms.
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    I'm kinda counting on the idea that Youko and Yuzuki are currently rather amoral as a function of being "newborn" Fog mental models, like the canon Fog, and will lose that amorality as/if they form personal attachments with humans and other mental models. Because like Einsig I'm kinda disappointed in the "mass murdering powertrip" thread the story has gone thus far, but I'm holding out for that to improve. Then again: maybe I'm hoping for too much from a self-insert fic?
     
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