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Rising Sun (Code Geass/Arpeggio Of Blue Steel SI)

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It's generally policy in anime to avoid referencing the Emperor and the Imperial Family if at all possible. He is not supposed to be involved in mortal affairs.

While there's no law against it, there are social groups that would be upset if His Majesty were to be depicted in something like Code Geass-even if it were a fictional counterpart.
 
Figured as much. Still, it's something that can be used to provide some fanfic fodder. Those social constraints don't apply to us gaijin! :D
 
obssesednuker said:
A third possibility is that Japan did wind-up becoming a republic, but with the imperial family's descendents still retaining a significant social (if not political and/or economic) standing within Japanese society much like the Bourbons and Bonapartes have in modern France.

That idea could also lend to some interesting political dynamics within the JLF for fanfic writers between those who simply want to return to the preoccupation government and those who want to reach even further back and reinstate the monarchy once the Britannians are thrown out.
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I agree with you that it is the most likely possibility, though I would think the imperial family might be more relevant than the Bourbon and Bonapartes are in France. Because nobody care about those (except to jokes about them, of course).
 
Bki said:
I agree with you that it is the most likely possibility, though I would think the imperial family might be more relevant than the Bourbon and Bonapartes are in France.
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Entirely true, mainly because the Imperial Family would likely still be respected by the Japanese Republic's political establishment. It would basically be like Japan today, but with the monarchy being de-facto rather then de-jure.

Because nobody care about those (except to jokes about them, of course).
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And as window-dressing for upper-class cocktail parties. ;)
 
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If we go by the wiki(dunno if it's reliable) it mentions that prior to the invasion by Britannia, Japan operated under a parliamentary system, and it makes no mention of there ever being a monarchy.
 
Kaioo said:
If we go by the wiki(dunno if it's reliable) it mentions that prior to the invasion by Britannia, Japan operated under a parliamentary system, and it makes no mention of there ever being a monarchy.
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Yeah, but the Japanese imperial family is old. To the point that it existence should not have been butterflied away because the first non-legendary emperor predate the point of divergence between the CG-verse and OTL.
 
00Zy99 said:
There WAS a movement among the more liberal portions of the populace to do so, which was why the US considered it a valid option to begin with.
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Yes but the US didn't enslave the population as second class citizens and completely cut them off from any influence on their rule. Doing that is going to make them very nostalgic for the old government system. Just because a foreigners say the royal family aren't royal doesn't mean the population is going to consider it any more just than any other form of unjust tyranny they are doing.

She has a claim to the throne (weak but there aren't any other contenders) and her dynasty lead japan through far better times and things have gone poorly while they have been out of power. That is going to give her massive respect and de facto authority over the Japanese.
 
cyberswordsmen said:
Yes but the US didn't enslave the population as second class citizens and completely cut them off from any influence on their rule. Doing that is going to make them very nostalgic for the old government system. Just because a foreigners say the royal family aren't royal doesn't mean the population is going to consider it any more just than any other form of unjust tyranny they are doing.

She has a claim to the throne (weak but there aren't any other contenders) and her dynasty lead japan through far better times and things have gone poorly while they have been out of power. That is going to give her massive respect and de facto authority over the Japanese.
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We were talking about the monarchy being abolished after the First Pacific War (the invasion in 2010 atb was the Second), or at some other point.
 
00Zy99 said:
We were talking about the monarchy being abolished after the First Pacific War (the invasion in 2010 atb was the Second), or at some other point.
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I would say the possible point could be some equivalent to the Boshin war.

After all, CG history is strangely similar to our own despite a point of divergence that should have butterflied everything.
 
00Zy99 said:
There are so many points of divergence that EVERYTHING is butterflied (Geass, Sakuradite, Rome not taking Britain).
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Well, I was mostly considering the later. And yet there's a revolution in France, which lead to the rise of Napoleon (well, the name might simply be the same for our convenience, but still) which then fought Britain (and won, as opposed to OTL, of course, but that's beside the point).

Their history is too similar, so we can expect that other historical event might have their equivalent, even if the results or circumstances were slightly different.
 
actually in canon arppegio, the FoF lost only in the carrier department, since their planes couldn´t utilize either the advanced tech nor the klein fields. so brittania might have a slim chance to even the odds of the battle.
 
Great_BrightSlap said:
actually in canon arppegio, the FoF lost only in the carrier department, since their planes couldn´t utilize either the advanced tech nor the klein fields. so brittania might have a slim chance to even the odds of the battle.
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That was also before Mental Models became a thing. So the tactics and dog-fighting skills of said planes was probably worse than B1 Battle droids.
 
jwolfe_beta said:
That was also before Mental Models became a thing. So the tactics and dog-fighting skills of said planes was probably worse than B1 Battle droids.
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not entirely true, thre was a carrier named zanark or something that didn't have anithing to do, so it spent its time by fishing. Since humanity fighters were not so much different from hers.
 
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I've noticed that most, if not all the tech and vs debates in this thread are focused on Britannia fighting the FoF. What about the Chinese Federation and the EU? Cause eventually those two nations are probably going to fight the FoF too.

We know that the Eunuchs have no qualms about sending wave after wave of troops at a problem and Xingke is a better strategist than Lelouch and maybe a better pilot than Suzaku or Kallen (personal opinion at least).

The EU is more of a blank slate, but they have been fighting Britannia with Gen 3/4 KFs and conventional tech so they have to have either some VERY good tacticians or some other factor that is allowing them to succeed. And no, I have watched Akito yet.
 
As Stalin said said, quantity has a quality all it's own. As you said the eunuchs are willing to just throw people at the problem until it goes away. That works against things like knightmares because you only need one lucky shot to get rid of them, FoF vessels and MMs though? Not so much their Klein Fields and WFA make lucky shots almost completely impossible and render complete, overwhelming firepower as the only method of attack. The issue with that is until something like the Lancelot's cannon or the Gawain's shoulder guns are built theresno way to do enough damage to break those fields unless you suicide an enormous sakuradite tanker on them, and that itself has the issue of being ridiculously easy to snipe.
 
Also that tanker that they swiped in chapter three wouldn't have brought down the Klein field. Apparently the explosion would have just created a 15% saturation of Yamato's field.
 
jwolfe_beta said:
Also that tanker that they swiped in chapter three wouldn't have brought down the Klein field. Apparently the explosion would have just created a 15% saturation of Yamato's field.
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Doesn't a blow which cause a 10% or more saturation of a klein field in one go cause the field to collapse?
 
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