You know Tagg is going to try to enslave Empress or hehe Tea Master and will probably invite Mandate of Heaven on his Head by Tribulation lightning because I bet he has enslaved other capes under his command through the same methods he is trying to pull. Huh does Mandate of Heaven work throughout all the localized Earths that the Worms have enclosed off? Reason I'm asking is because all of them are technically connected just dimensional out of shift from one another. So they can be travelled to without ascending to the next Heaven?
 
Well, I wonder how Cauldron will react to this. If they push, The Mandate of Heaven might spread from BB. Can't wait for it to target the Fallen, S9, Yangban and the likes.
 
This is Worm so I'm sure it is correct but just to be safe, is police officer the correct rapist?
Even if this was a RL fic, the answer would be "Yes. It is." Especially near Native reservations. Don't go googling it unless you want to get into a depressing rabbit hole.
You know Tagg is going to try to enslave Empress or hehe Tea Master and will probably invite Mandate of Heaven on his Head by Tribulation lightning because I bet he has enslaved other capes under his command through the same methods he is trying to pull. Huh does Mandate of Heaven work throughout all the localized Earths that the Worms have enclosed off? Reason I'm asking is because all of them are technically connected just dimensional out of shift from one another. So they can be travelled to without ascending to the next Heaven?
Eventually, yes. The Heavens are supposed to encompass the entirety of existence. But you'd need to go up several heavens before you can go down again. Check out Chapter 11 where the Empress gives dragon a brief analogy of the heavens.
 
Ah, so all forms of something like rape count as an abuse of power and/or kidnapping/torture... Man, that specific one is under like 4 different laws at once! I mean, it deserves it, but that's kinda funny. It's pretty much a pure-evil crime after all, may as well make it super lethal too!

I think these laws are pretty damn nice all things considered.

Coil tried to fucking save scum the laws, including reading them, so he never learnt them since his shard can't read it for the precog, huh? Then he got hit in both timelines with the lightning, including probably almost everyone in his base. I wonder if(was it downtown where his base was?) downtown has a fuckton of holes in it where the lightning went straight through the ground to melt some people? Wait, whose gonna pick Dinah up!? Stellar Empress or the PRT?

PHO truly can't go without naming people. Greg shouldn't have been banned for 14 days for outing her since she's not a cape and is very much a public figure nowadays too, ain't she? Or was it about the Stellar Empress being Taylor(even if she'll probably never remember that far back with memory rewrites and trauma fucking her up)?

Going by those laws though... pretty much everyone that's a Human Master will get blasted, won't they? Including memory-based strangers I assume? Someone like Nice Guy would get hit instantly for example, Heartbreaker too. Cherish would pop like a bubble the instant she uses her powers and most of the S9 too. I wonder if it's retroactive also?
 
Ah, so all forms of something like rape count as an abuse of power and/or kidnapping/torture... Man, that specific one is under like 4 different laws at once! I mean, it deserves it, but that's kinda funny. It's pretty much a pure-evil crime after all, may as well make it super lethal too!

Going by those laws though... pretty much everyone that's a Human Master will get blasted, won't they? Including memory-based strangers I assume? Someone like Nice Guy would get hit instantly for example, Heartbreaker too. Cherish would pop like a bubble the instant she uses her powers and most of the S9 too. I wonder if it's retroactive also?
Rape on its own won't do it, neither will kidnapping. As kidnapping for ransom, or to hand over to law enforcement are both valid. It's the same with Slavery, it's not enough to affect someone's mind to make them do something. You have to also take ownership of them - enchant them. So it's the difference between Valfor and Heartbreaker vs Canary or Nice Guy.
PHO truly can't go without naming people. Greg shouldn't have been banned for 14 days for outing her since she's not a cape and is very much a public figure nowadays too, ain't she? Or was it about the Stellar Empress being Taylor(even if she'll probably never remember that far back with memory rewrites and trauma fucking her up)?
He was actually outing Purity.
From comments Taylor made I think it can only trigger the instant of the violation. She was around to sense various assaults but the mandate wasn't active yet so nothing was done.
Yep, the Mandate of Heaven is basically an automated system that can sort of read intent, but it's a reactive system not a proactive system.
 
Hey, I was just wondering if you're using that PHO Generator thing(Myrddin is what it's called I'm pretty sure)? Because the spacing for your PHO interlude is... very hard to read properly? The formatting seems off compared to most I usually see, ya know? Missing indents and things like that. Not trying to be rude, but I thought I should mention it.

Rape on its own won't do it, neither will kidnapping. As kidnapping for ransom, or to hand over to law enforcement are both valid. It's the same with Slavery, it's not enough to affect someone's mind to make them do something. You have to also take ownership of them - enchant them. So it's the difference between Valfor and Heartbreaker vs Canary or Nice Guy.
I guess I just misread how they operate then.
He was actually outing Purity.
You know, it could be damn near anyone with him... You can literally roll some dice to see what he was banned for with how ascended his banning is for Worm tropes at this point.
 
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Chapter 16




Director Piggot stumps out of the lift towards the PRT ready room to meet the returning troopers.


She's still not sure what to feel about this afternoon and evening. On the one hand she had to discipline the entire wards team because Gallant invited his girlfriend to an emergency. On the other hand, she has said girlfriend cooling her heels in a cell on reckless endangerment and a pile of eye witness reports testifying that if the Empress hadn't acted, for a given value of acting, that charge would be 2nd degree murder, and they'd have been scraping Glory Girl off the ground with a paint scraper. It could also be the lever she needs to bring New Wave to heel, as she has a pile of prisoner complaints from gangers that claim she messed them up and had Panacea heal them before they were picked up by the police.


Then on the one hand they have 27 corpses sitting in the morgue waiting for dental identification due to death from repeated lightning strikes. On the other hand, she also has a barracks full of rescued slaves and prisoners. She's understood enough of that blasted coin to know what tribulation lightning looks like.


As tired troopers start to file into the room her phone beeps. With a groan she looks at the meeting request for 0900 tomorrow. With a sigh she changes the timezone on the request from EDT to PDT while ensuring that the time remains the same. That will buy her three hours for her dialysis and reading the reports from the troopers on site. Once she's sure the change has been accepted, she accepts the request and looks up at the loose formation the troopers have fallen into.


"Good evening troopers. Before I let you all clock out and go home for a well deserved rest I need an initial report. First of all, the Wards tell me the Empress was there. Did any of you interview her?"


Sgt Roberts steps forward, "Yes Ma'am."


Piggot nods, "What are your impressions of her?"


Roberts shakes his head, "She's terrifying ma'am. She initially seemed friendly and cooperative. She answered all of the questions I had, and repeatedly walked through her actions from the beginning of the robbery to the end of the robbery when she beheaded Hellhound."


"Did she give a reason for beheading Hellhound?"


"Yes ma'am, her student wouldn't have survived the attack. Something about a Song Proclamation… Oh shit."


Piggot nods, "I know of it. Was there anything else?"


Roberts nods sharply, "Yes ma'am, when I started to arrest her, she asked me if I was sure I wanted to do that. I told her that nobody is above the law and started the arrest."


Piggot nods, "Well done sergeant, I'll make sure you get a commendation. Don't do it again. Did she say anything else?"


Roberts holds up the red coin, "After I got wammied with this she told me that she wanted me to try and arrest her again, as there are people she wanted to visit in the city. She also suggested that I learn to cultivate, not that I even knew what cultivation was before today."


Piggot nods, "If you do decide to cultivate, report to R&D before you go looking online, as they want to test if cultivation can be learned from a printed out list of instructions written by someone that has never tried cultivating. Some of my old contact have told me that DARPA has started a project on this too; so you won't be alone. Head to medical to get checked out before you write your report."


"Thank you ma'am."


"Is there anything else I should know before I let you all go to write your reports?"


An officer steps forward, Lt Lyons according to his name tag, "Ma'am, we know the civilian identity of Purity."


Piggot grimaces as she nods, "Put it on the paper report and pass the information onto Intelligence through the usual channels. PHO has already painted her as one of the Heroes of the bank job, so for the moment we're going to assume she's flipping. If any of you see any hint she's still with the Empire, flag it to PR. Anything else?"


"I handed the drives from the security system over to Intelligence. I reviewed them first, and if Miss Thompson isn't a parahuman I'll eat my badge. You need to watch the robbery from the point Miss Thompson got involved ma'am."


"Noted. Anything else I need to know now? No? How do things look with Glory Girl?"


Lyons pauses for a moment to think, "If she'd only done the dynamic entry, any competent defence lawyer would be able to argue that she was acting as law enforcement. Because she failed to check her six before destroying the table the DA might be able to argue otherwise. There's always a risk when going into a situation blind."


Piggot nods, "Understood, I'll go and watch those videos. Make sure your report is on my desk bright and early."


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Coil sits pensively in his house after another timeline just dropped unexpectedly while he was driving back to his base. Whatever's going on, it's related to his new pet and the Mandate of Heaven.


His eyes drop to the jade coin that's lying on his coffee table next to the glass of champagne he was in the middle of drinking the first time the timeline dropped. According to the internal memos, that coin should have taught him a new language and the Mandate of Heaven, but no matter how many times he tried it in throw away timelines, nothing happened.


Pulling out his secure laptop, he logs in and begins to draft a transfer order to remove Tattletale from the city. He'll torture the information out of her and…


In the other timeline he calls from his car, "Mr Pitter, start the pet on her training regime."


Just as he hangs up his safe timeline drops and his eyes widen as he tries to call Mr Pitter back. In one timeline he floors it towards his base as the phone network tries to connect to his base. In the other, he spins the car around and floors it towards the city limits.


In both timelines the phone call drops after 15 rings, and he calls the base commander. After a few rings the commander picks up and he instructs them to stop Mr Pitter.


In one timeline he hits the on ramp for the freeway and flicks the switch for the illegally fitted police flashers, in the other he's approaching his base when the commander says, "I'm sorry sir, Mr Pitter is in the secure area of the base, it will take us a few…"


As the timeline ends Coil checks his rearview mirror as lightning falls over his base.


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♦ Topic: Stellar Empress ends Bank Job


In: Boards ► United States ► Maine ► Brockton Bay ► Cape News


Bagrat (Original Poster) (Veteran Member) (The Guy in the Know)


Posted On Apr 14th 2011:


Earlier today a small time gang called the Undersiders attempted to rob Brockton Bay Central Bank an hour after they were delivered money from the Federal reserve. They managed to pick a time when Stellar Empress, Tea Master, Purity, and Panacea were all doing their banking. After seeing a copy of the security video, this is my report on the situation.





As the bank robbery started, Grue covered the outside of the bank with darkness preventing police forces from seeing inside and potentially sniping the robbers.





As the gang was going from office to office, they encountered Tea Master who ended up fighting Grue, who kept her busy while the rest of the Undersiders continued to shuffle staff past the fight and rob the bank. It's clear that Grue was more experienced and better trained that Tea Master. However, her fans and speed offset the difference. While there has been some debate about if Tea Master actually has powers, the fact she was able to fight Grue with her head encased in a globe of darkness proves that she does.





The fight continued until they were ready to go, when Regent attempted to intervene and got smacked down for his trouble and Tea Master switched out her fans for a spear. At this point Grue did the sensible thing and surrendered.





In the Foyer the rest of the staff and customers followed the Federal advice and sat calmly while the robbery took place. PSA - the cash a bank holds is insured, this is why smart bank robbers don't touch safe deposit boxes or the customers possessions.





All this changed when Glory Girl broke through the side window. Presumably to catch the robbers unaware. Unfortunately, there were two strollers situated under the window, and if it wasn't for Stellar Empress suddenly appearing the two babies would be dead. At this point Purity reveals herself and starts gathering an attack aimed at Glory Girl.





Stellar Empress saves Glory Girl's life by drawing Purity's attention to the Strollers.





Glory Girl compounds the problem by smashing a Marble and Oak desk, presumably for intimidation purposes. Stellar Empress shows off her mover ability again, by appearing in front of the debris.





Purity then tells Glory Girl to surrender and fires a warning shot to emphasise the point. Panacea points at the two strollers and agrees with Purity.





Tattletale takes the opportunity to try and run, only to run face first into Tea Master and her spear. This is where Hellhound comes from the Vault with one of her monster dogs and sees Regent on the floor and Tea Master holding a spear. That's when she makes the fatal mistake of instructing her dog to kill. Her dog leaps to the attack and between one frame and the next Stellar Empress has moved from the foyer to behind Hellhound, and she's holding Hellhounds head in one hand.


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►AverageAlexandros (Cape Husband)


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Who's Tea Master?


►Forgotten Creator


Replied On Apr 14th 2011:


That's the name that PHO has given to the girl that does the Tea Ceremony every Saturday.


►XxVoid_CowboyxX (Banned)


Replied On Apr 14th 2011:


{Mod} Have a 14 day ban, Rule 5: No outing capes


►Reave (Verified PRT Agent)


Replied On Apr 14th 2011:


Bagrat, the PRT is still very interested in where you keep finding these Videos. Please PM me.


►Chrome


Replied On Apr 14th 2011:


Why do villains even do bank jobs anymore. There's got to be better ways of earning money.


►Feychick


Replied On Apr 14th 2011:


It's a sad reality of the state of the USA that most capes can't keep a job related to their powers due to NEPEA-5. All it takes is one complaint from a disgruntled coworker and you're blacklisted.


►Brilliger (Moderator: Protectorate Main)


Replied On Apr 14th 2011:


That's not true, the PRT is constantly investigating claims and disproving them.


►Feychick


Replied On Apr 14th 2011:


That doesn't help, as those investigations cost time, during which the cape can't actually work.


►Chaosfaith


Replied On Apr 14th 2011:


Take it to Politics guys.


►Acree


Replied On Apr 14th 2011:


@Brilliger Like the PRT helped when Uppercrust asked them for help while NEPEA-5 was being proposed?


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♦ Topic: Lightning strikes across the city


In: Boards ► United States ► Maine ► Brockton Bay


Ryus (Original Poster)


Posted On Apr 14th 2011:


Holy shit, has anyone seen the lightning storm that just came out of nowhere? I'm streaming this live from the 23rd floor of Medhall Tower (Video).


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►Good Ship Morpheus


Replied On Apr 15th 2011:


I know it's the middle of the night. but insomnia. Anyway everyone should look out their window at the old office building in West Downtown. The Lightning is coming down so heavily. I'm going to try and get to my roof so with my phone so that you guys can see it.


►TinMother (Moderator)


Replied On Apr 15th 2011:


Locking this thread until local Moderators can monitor it in the morning.


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♦ Topic: PSA Mandate of Heaven - Notification of A Class Threat.


In: Boards ► United States ► Maine ► Brockton Bay ► Press Releases


Miss Mercury (Original Poster) (Protectorate Employee)


Posted On Apr 15th 2011:


This is an official Public Service Announcement.





Shortly after she arrived, the Stellar Empress threatened to impose the Mandate of Heaven on the city of Brockton Bay. Yesterday afternoon the city of Brockton Bay was subject to 89 separate lightning strikes. Each one hit the location of a citizen of the city, until finally the citizen expired.





The PRT is currently treating the Stellar Empress as a rules based cape. This PSA is to inform you of the translated rules that she has imposed across the entire city, and the rules that involve her personally. Clarifications are in curly brackets. We are treating her as a non-hostile cape unless her rules are broken.





Mandate of Heaven


Slavery {Owning or attempting to own} is punishable by death.


Our Legal department has provided this definition of Slavery from the coin that the Stellar Empress provides. Slavery - A slave is a sentient and sapient living thing that has no freedom and is compelled to follow the orders of another person through the use of drugs, formations, enchantments, violence, or physical restraints. A person duly convicted of a crime {by a legal authority} who is serving out their sentences is not included in the definition of a slave unless drugs, formations, or enchantments are used to remove their agency. Convicts may petition the heavens to have a law judged against the Mandate of Heaven. If they are successful, the convicting judge will be tried by tribulation, and a clerk will be assigned to monitor the law for the next century.





Kidnapping {Capturing without Legal authority} with intent to torture or kill is punishable by death.


As we are not sure what constitutes torture, we are advising the BDSM community to cease practicing CNC until we have clarified it.





Turning a sentient being into an unwilling cultivation resource is also punishable by death.





Attempting to enforce lower laws on a visitor from a higher existence, for a first infraction they {the enforcer} will be forcefully informed of the Mandate of Heaven. For a second infraction, the visitor will be released from the Mandate of Heaven temporarily {Until sunrise the day after the attempt was made, as measured by the rising and setting sun.}





Personal Interaction


Proclamation of Song - An immortal with a personal student from another realm is allowed to act in order to preserve the life of the student. But only when the life of the student is in imminent and unavoidable peril, excepting through the process of an official challenge.





Proclamation of Instruction - The Guiding Immortal of a sect is allowed to act if their sect is in danger of being wiped out.





Known Personal Students of the Stellar Empress - this list will be updated as new names are discovered. This list is being provided to save lives, do not attempt to kidnap or kill people on this list.


Dakala Thompson aka Tea Master.





Update: Since drafting, there have been a further 100 lightning strikes on one location.


Edit 4:32 am: Kidnapping includes abuse of power.


Edit 6:17 am: An incoming punishment can be predicted by the rapid gathering of black storm clouds. Ceasing the infringing activity appears to cause the clouds to dissipate.





♦ Topic: Is Cultivation a new sort of Super Power


In: Boards ► United States ► Maine ► Politics


LegalGuru473 (Original Poster) (Verified Lawyer)


Posted On Apr 1st 2011:


Since the arrival of Stellar Empress and the video on how to cultivate we have seen hundreds of video claims of people being able to gain powers by following the instructions given. Including one person who included a copy of their MRI to prove that they don't have a Corona Pollentia before including a video of them bench pressing a 600lb bar bell.





Why is this an important question? All of our laws on superpowers are predicated on the legal definition of a parahuman. Namely a person who has as Corona Pollentia and a Corona Gemma.


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►Feychick


Replied On Apr 15th 2011:


Shouldn't this question also require revisiting laws that assumed that super powers were unique to parahumans, and not something that can be learned. Especially the ones that prevent brutes from working on job sites?


►EagleEyes (Moderator)


Replied On Apr 15th 2011:


This has already been discussed in depth starting on page 32. Please review that discussion and make sure you're adding something new before reopening the question.


►Feychick


Replied On Apr 15th 2011:


Thanks, I'll have a look.


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Lakedra shivers under the blanket that the PRT patrol gave her when they released her from the back of the police car in the train yard. The hot chocolate in her hands does nothing to warm the cold pit in the bottom of her stomach from how close she came to being a statistic.


As her head droops, the flash of lightning and the smell of cooking flesh drives through her mind once more as she remembers the moment the police officer ripped her panties off.


As she spills hot chocolate over her fingers, a PRT officer sits down next to her and removes their faceless helmet. In a surprisingly feminine voice the officer says, "Hey, it's ok, you're safe now. Do you want a hug?"


Lakedra nods and the officer gently takes the hot chocolate from her hands, before pulling her into a hug.
Why one small town? If lightning struck the entire state or half of the coast, everyone would understand the difference between an immortal and a strong parahuman, but for now it's just the level of a strong cape. :)
 
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I suspect BDSM is safe so long as consent is given (as far as I understand it, consent is already mandatory). Otherwise, surgeons, dental surgeons, tattooists, body piercers, or any other activity that causes pain would be equally in trouble.

I've heard the role of a physiotherapist assisting with recovery from an injury described as a 'torturer for your own good', pain now for restored function or less pain later, right up to levels of pain that can be legitimately considered torture.

To a lesser extent, personal trainer, fitness coach or martial arts instructor, where you might complain that you're dying, but you're just being pushed hard enough to improve, but no harder.


I'm a bit surprised at Glory Girl; she seemed somewhat more belligerent than arriving to find things mostly resolved would warrant.


I believe there's a correlation between the cause of trigger event and expressed power; I suspect the Mandate of Heaven being enforced will reduce new brute and blaster powers, given that they correlate with direct physical threat.

Thinker, Tinker and Master would still be on the table, as those tend to rise from long-term stressors, which aren't easy to address directly by tribulation.

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Why one small town? If lightning struck the entire state or half of the coast, everyone would understand the difference between an immortal and a strong parahuman, but for now it's just the level of a strong cape.

I suspect because the area of effect is precisely Sgt Roberts jurisdiction.

Edit the 2nd: The celestial bureaucracy is exactly that; the paperwork and the rules say it should be thus and so, and so it is thus and so.
 
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Why one small town? If lightning struck the entire state or half of the coast, everyone would understand the difference between an immortal and a strong parahuman, but for now it's just the level of a strong cape.
You shouldn't quote the entire chapter.

But to answer your question, she is going on an escalating scale. First attempt gets a warning, second attempt (this one) and the town gets put under the Mandate of Heaven. Third attempt will cover the entire USA. Presumably the Forth attempt will cover either half the world or the entire world outright.
 
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Hey, I was just wondering if you're using that PHO Generator thing(Myrddin is what it's called I'm pretty sure)? Because the spacing for your PHO interlude is... very hard to read properly? The formatting seems off compared to most I usually see, ya know? Missing indents and things like that. Not trying to be rude, but I thought I should mention it.
PHO Interlude Wizard I'm using this one, but it gets pasted into Scrivener before it then goes on to AO3, and then gets copied to here.
I'm a bit surprised at Glory Girl; she seemed somewhat more belligerent than arriving to find things mostly resolved would warrant.
If you line up the two scenes, Regent attacked Dakala when Glory Girl did her dynamic entry. So Tattletale was watching over the hostages. Additionally, nobody could see inside the bank, so they had no idea what was happening.
I suspect BDSM is safe so long as consent is given (as far as I understand it, consent is already mandatory). Otherwise, surgeons, dental surgeons, tattooists, body piercers, or any other activity that causes pain would be equally in trouble.
CNC is a specific subset of BDSM that has many many detractors. I'll leave people to look it up if they choose to.
 
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PHO Interlude Wizard I'm using this one, but it gets pasted into Scrivener before it then goes on to AO3, and then gets copied to here.
Ah, so it's a "formatting got broken" issue due to transferring it through too many word processor mediums? Like the one that turned chapter 12 into Comic Sans with no spacing whatsoever between lines so it was one giant block of text? No seriously, why is it in Comic Sans?! I can understand the spacing, but COMIC SANS?! It doesn't even appear when quoting it, so I know it's fucked up somewhere in the coding...
CNC is a specific subset of BDSM that has many many detractors. I'll leave people to look it up if they choose to.
I looked it up and had my brain freeze at the... just, stupid naming which the word for what it's doing I forgot and is majorly bugging me now, Consensual Non-Consent... Yeah, that'd be a grey zone at best thing for the mandate I feel.
 
Very satisfying chapter, thank you. Looks like Coil lives another day, but I suspect it could be hard for him to just kidnap useful parahumans..
 
CNC is a specific subset of BDSM that has many many detractors. I'll leave people to look it up if they choose to.
I'm mean it's called "consensual non-consent". The name is fairly clear that it's just roleplaying non-consent. And if the Mandate can somewhat sense intent, it can tell that even if they're not acting like it, they both agreed to do this. If CNC would get you punished, then actors in movies would likely have issues as well.
 
I'm mean it's called "consensual non-consent". The name is fairly clear that it's just roleplaying non-consent. And if the Mandate can somewhat sense intent, it can tell that even if they're not acting like it, they both agreed to do this. If CNC would get you punished, then actors in movies would likely have issues as well.
Sometimes it's called pre-consent, and there's no good way to withdraw consent once stuff starts. Hence the government (not Empress) warning people off it.

In reality, the Empress would probably just say "fill out these forms and submit it to the heavens once there's a heavenly court."
 
►XxVoid_CowboyxX (Banned)


Replied On Apr 14th 2011:


{Mod} Have a 14 day ban, Rule 5: No outing capes
That's unjust. She's not a cape and makes no attempts to create a separation between identities.

I hope Greg spontaneously comprehends a Dao and begins his own ascension from this lack of face.
Dakala Thompson aka Tea Master.
So it's okay when the boot does it. Dragon should be disassembled and cast into the sea.
 
Sometimes it's called pre-consent, and there's no good way to withdraw consent once stuff starts. Hence the government (not Empress) warning people off it.

In reality, the Empress would probably just say "fill out these forms and submit it to the heavens once there's a heavenly court."

Ehhhh no matter what the activity is in BDSM, if it's done properly and safely there are check ins and/or safe words to stop or adjust to people's comfort at any time. It's supposed to be helpful or pleasant in some way to all parties. Scenes, aftercare, when to expect the scenes, safety plan, and when to stop should be planned out thoroughly in advance as well. I guess some people might be less safe about that though because they don't care or don't know. That's all I'll say about it, I don't want to start a derail.
 
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