Slavery is bad enough to serve the needs for vengeance and public punishment. At the same time it lets us demonstrate the the virtue of self control because we don't need their deaths to be immediate and in front of us. It serves the needs of diplomacy because their deaths are not in front of their people. It makes us and our legion money.

And some of them might not end up in mines. Where there's life there's hope. That's why they surrendered after all.
 
To set those who once waged war upon you free is the greatest humiliation and show of strength possible, for it proclaims that you do not consider them a threat, for the great fear not the meagre multitudes.

It also encourages others to turn thier spears now that victory, slavery or death are not the sole options.
Italian Wars say otherwise, an Italian enemy of Rome managed to surround and get an entire Roman legion to surrender. The commander's father recommended they either release all of them (without brands) and treat them like friends (so they would feel grateful and friendly towards them) or exterminate them all (in order to prevent them from ever being a threat).

The Italian commander instead forced them to walk underneath their flag as a sign of submission and then let them go home. Those Roman troops ended up almost fighting to the death in order to avenge their humiliation and Rome ended up with control of Italy.

Branding and releasing defeated enemies is stupid. You either have to be completely merciful and absorb them as auxiliary troops or sell them into slavery so that they're never a threat again. This is literally basic psychology; you would never thank someone for breaking your nose just because he could have broken your arms.
 
agreed. but please stop trying to force the modern viewpoint on that of ancient Roman society. as it is massively OOC for Attelus to think that way. Slavery is a very common thing for the time period and was not limited to Rome most cultures practiced slavery. It was an everyday and accepted fact of life
It was, but if you just straight up asked Atellus: "Is it kinder to sell a man to the salt mines, or to cut his throat," there's a good chance he'd say "cut his throat." Certainly Tercerus would agree.

Of course, the Romans would sell people to the salt mines, even knowing it was terrible, but it's not hard to imagine a Roman actually thinking "you know, I'm just going to be merciful and chop this guy's head off instead."

It's funny.

When I argue for killing them I'm accused of wanting "BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD"
When I argue against enslaving them I'm accused of "forcing the modern viewpoint"

I don't know who I am any longer, please tell me who I am???!!!!?????

Maybe I'm just that bad at arguing. ):
Firstly, it's different people making the accusation each time, which changes things.

Secondly, as the guy who accused you of 'BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD,' firstly, you talked up the 'sacrifice to Mars' angle and the 'the soldiers crave this' angle a lot. Which made it sound a lot like you were coming into the discussion from a very bloodthirsty place. Then combine this with the fact the last time you suggested a plan it was all about ramping up our religious devotion to Mars to extreme. And that it sounded like you were labeling Atellus as a sort of fated divine champion in contest with Visella Tertia.

I was honestly starting to get this picture of you as having this almost Aztec-esque devotion to being part of the Martian (that is, 'belonging to Mars') war machine and killing people and being very killy. I may have been wrong, but I came by that opinion honestly, and am rather relieved to learn it isn't true.

I don't follow. Smoking is cancer. Just because their trench was bombarded is no excuse to smoke.
Because to a bunch of guys who just got done having high explosives raining around their ears, because your command structure forced them to go there, the idea that the people in charge really give a damn whether or not they have a statistically elevated risk of dying of lung cancer fifty years from now is a sick joke.

Furthermore, combat is such a stressful environment that it makes a lot of calculations like "is it worth something that will take two months off my life expectancy to get through the next six months with less anxiety" seem very, very different. In civilian life, normalized to civilian standards of what 'anxiety' means, that would be a very stupid decision. In a war zone, with the kind of levels of stress only soldiers tend to experience... it starts looking more appealing. Because when you get shot at for a living, trading months off your life expectancy for calmer nerves or lower anxiety is the kind of calculation you're already making anyway, in a real sense.
 
It was, but if you just straight up asked Atellus: "Is it kinder to sell a man to the salt mines, or to cut his throat," there's a good chance he'd say "cut his throat." Certainly Tercerus would agree.

Of course, the Romans would sell people to the salt mines, even knowing it was terrible, but it's not hard to imagine a Roman actually thinking "you know, I'm just going to be merciful and chop this guy's head off instead."

Firstly, it's different people making the accusation each time, which changes things.

Secondly, as the guy who accused you of 'BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD,' firstly, you talked up the 'sacrifice to Mars' angle and the 'the soldiers crave this' angle a lot. Which made it sound a lot like you were coming into the discussion from a very bloodthirsty place. Then combine this with the fact the last time you suggested a plan it was all about ramping up our religious devotion to Mars to extreme. And that it sounded like you were labeling Atellus as a sort of fated divine champion in contest with Visella Tertia.

I was honestly starting to get this picture of you as having this almost Aztec-esque devotion to being part of the Martian (that is, 'belonging to Mars') war machine and killing people and being very killy. I may have been wrong, but I came by that opinion honestly, and am rather relieved to learn it isn't true.

Because to a bunch of guys who just got done having high explosives raining around their ears, because your command structure forced them to go there, the idea that the people in charge really give a damn whether or not they have a statistically elevated risk of dying of lung cancer fifty years from now is a sick joke.

Furthermore, combat is such a stressful environment that it makes a lot of calculations like "is it worth something that will take two months off my life expectancy to get through the next six months with less anxiety" seem very, very different. In civilian life, normalized to civilian standards of what 'anxiety' means, that would be a very stupid decision. In a war zone, with the kind of levels of stress only soldiers tend to experience... it starts looking more appealing. Because when you get shot at for a living, trading months off your life expectancy for calmer nerves or lower anxiety is the kind of calculation you're already making anyway, in a real sense.
But if you asked the guy kneeling in the blood of his mates with a blade at his throat whether he'd he'd rather risk the auction block which would probably mean the salt mines unless he can blag something better, what would he say?

He'd say yes to a cigarette.
 
But if you asked the guy kneeling in the blood of his mates with a blade at his throat whether he'd he'd rather risk the auction block which would probably mean the salt mines unless he can blag something better, what would he say?

He'd say yes to a cigarette.
I'm not going to disagree, I'm simply going to say "kinder to kill the bastards" isn't exactly an un-Roman thought or something we can only express in here because we're "injecting modern notions into a Roman quest."
 
[X] Moving Forward

It seems simple enough.
Adhoc vote count started by Temes1066 on Apr 10, 2018 at 10:04 PM, finished with 121 posts and 59 votes.

  • [X] Plan Moving Forward
    -[X] Turn and march immediately for Nola, in order to reinforce Sertorius and the Hirpini in the siege.
    -[X] Sell them into slavery, both increasing your own personal coffers and gaining more money for the legion.
    [X] Plan Celeritas et Clementia
    -[X] Reassign able-bodied men from the Second Cohort to fill out the other cohorts' ranks. Transfer walking wounded who cannot keep pace or fight effectively to the Second, in like number.
    -[X] Send Pompolussa, what remains of the Second Cohort, Himatus and his men back to Bovianum along with all the wounded, to ensure the supply train stays secured. Task them with keeping an ear out for Tercerian in case he tries to attack Bovianum or attempts to aid the rebels in Nola by attacking your cohorts from the rear.
    -[X] Inform the captured rebels that they will be forgiven for following Gemino and allowed to return to their homes, on two conditions. Any who do not swear to these two conditions have refused Rome's clemency, and will be sold into slavery.
    --[X] Firstly, the captives will receive a scarring notch on their right earlobe. If any man so marked ever abuses Rome's clemency by standing in her way again, that man will be crucified.
    --[X] Secondly, the captives must convey a message to their home villages: Bovianum bent the knee to Rome. On that day, Bovianum chose to meet Rome's open hand. Gemino, in his arrogance, persecuted Bovianum. On that day, Gemino chose to face Rome's sword hand. The sword has fallen. Gemino is dead. Soon, the legion will return. All villages that bend the knee to Rome will not be harmed, as Bovianum was not harmed. All those thieves and bandits who have persecuted those villages will be destroyed by the sword of Rome, as I have destroyed Gemino. Wherever those who persecute the villages may be, and however strong they may appear, they will be destroyed. Remember, and beware!
    -[X] With the rest of the cohorts (excepting the rump of the Second), slightly filled out by troops drawn from the Second, march immediately to Nola in order to reinforce Sertorius and the Hirpini in the siege.
 
I find it frustrating when people tell me my specific plan is bad for being specific, without identifying anything about it that could be made better...
 
I find it frustrating when people tell me my specific plan is bad for being specific, without identifying anything about it that could be made better...

In general I feel as if your plan has too many moving parts, all of which bear a significant amount of risk and consequence each, and for very marginal gains.

With regards to the Second, it feels as if we're disrupting the teamwork and organization of the cohorts which would affect morale in the short term. Additionally, Romans can treat their wounded on the move, so reorganizing them seems like a needless move when a fraction of them might be in decent shape after a few days.

Having them move to Bovianum also feels relatively half-baked. A single cohort filled with wounded men is literally, clearly a token force, unable to spread themselves to adequately protect supply lines, nor placate the town. The advance warning should Tercerian move is good though, but if Tercerian does move, we just lost a Cohort and a town instead of losing just the town.

Then there's the issue of the slaves, where I defer to the following response:

Italian Wars say otherwise, an Italian enemy of Rome managed to surround and get an entire Roman legion to surrender. The commander's father recommended they either release all of them (without brands) and treat them like friends (so they would feel grateful and friendly towards them) or exterminate them all (in order to prevent them from ever being a threat).

The Italian commander instead forced them to walk underneath their flag as a sign of submission and then let them go home. Those Roman troops ended up almost fighting to the death in order to avenge their humiliation and Rome ended up with control of Italy.

Branding and releasing defeated enemies is stupid. You either have to be completely merciful

At best, they deliver the message, at meh, they do nothing but go home, and at worst they become bandits or join Medix. Besides, word of Gemino's defeat will already spread through the Samnite Auxiliaries and Himatus's men.

If we defeat Medix, everything else becomes moot, because all Samnite resistance basically becomes laughably inconsequential, so any PR gain from this becomes worthless.

Then there's the Roman morale angle, where killing prisoners or enslaving them is the norm, but here you are letting them go, right after Mercator already chewed us out.

I'm not risk averse, but it just doesn't seem worth it here.
 
Omake: Would That You’d Been
Would That You'd Been​

Gemino waited until the messenger had left his tent to begin cursing his misfortune. No one in the legion would have minded his vulgar mood. Not only had they been serving under and alongside him for many long years, led out of the jaws of defeat to victory after victory by his tactical genius, but also because they shared his attitude. When they had marched into Samnium, the mission had been straightforward. Crush the rebels and convince the Samnites that surrender to Rome was preferable to the alternative.

Then Gemino, or rather one of his cohorts, had their first run in with Atellus of the Pentri. A young Samnite leader who had risen to the top of a rebel cell by equal parts patriotism, talent, and sheer dumb luck. His supply lines had been harassed non-stop since arriving in Bovianum. Things weren't dire yet, but the legion was tightening their belts in anticipation of things getting worse.

Gemino had experience though, and took a sadistic glee in the knowledge that even as Attellus made the Romans go hungry, he starved the men of Bovianum as well, driving his fellow Samnites into Rome's open arms. Or he had, until one of his legionnaires had stopped a suspicious man sneaking into a back alley. In the ensuing struggle, the legionnaire had ripped open the man's satchel and watched the bread tumble out.

Not only had Atellus been raiding his supply lines, but he had been taking the food instead of burning it and smuggling it back to the Samnites. Food Gemino had been planning to share with them anyways. A fact Atellus and his rebels no doubt failed to mention when selling the food to the people of Bovianum.

And it was working, was the infuriating part. Gemino had crushed the bandits that had plagued Samnite towns and villages, spent a few Roman lives to buy them that peace. He had repaired the roads with a speed and efficiency that only men of Rome possessed. He had little skill with law himself, but Servicus Sulpicus Rufus, one of his tribunes who had a legal career waiting for him in Rome, had taken to representing Samnites in the courts, bringing Roman law to the uncivilized Samnites.

But Atellus appealed to their bellies and their patriotism and his forces swelled by the day for it. Despite their burgeoning size, the cohort Gemino assigned to hunt him had trouble even finding Atellus and his band, let alone pinning him down before they disappeared into the hills. Sending more troops was out of the question, because Gemino wouldn't put it past the young rebel to do something as crazy as attack Bovianum, and he'd make the Samnites thank him for the 'liberation' of their city.

But the situation was untenable for Atellus. Rome would not be swayed by a lack of food and a hostile native population. Sooner or later he would have to make a decisive move, and Gemino would be ready to strike the moment he showed his neck.


XXX​


Atellus left the Sibyl with a cocky grin on his face, turning over words in his head, preparing a speech for later. The few men he had brought with him were concerned crossing so close to Roman patrol routes, but Atellus had grown up in hills like these, and vanishing into the landscape was third nature. Second nature was fighting Rome, he would often joke with the rebels who had been doing so longer than he had been alive.

It was a testament to his leadership, his charisma, his ability to motivate and win men over that such veterans followed him instead of the other way around. They had all been leaders of their own bands of men once, consolidated into one by his speeches and their mutual hatred of Rome. And now they had all been bound by fate. Probably. Interpreting prophecy was difficult at the best of times, and the one you had received was particularly cryptic.

But one thing was clear. You and your men, working together, would be able to fell Rome. Repel them from Samnite lands. Perhaps not forever, but Samnium would shake off its oppressor time and again, for however long they needed to.

Atellus would need more men though. The Roman disease might be helpless to hit and run tactics, but to face them in open battle it would be necessary to match their numbers, at least more so than he did now. He was already crafting the speech that would win them over too. Two hands had Rome, one with a sword to cut down those who opposed it, and the other open, to grasp your own in camaraderie, pull you in, and stab you in the back with the blade in their other hand.

The specific language would need refining, but the metaphor was solid, he felt. Portraying that old dog's attempts to pacify the region as the front they were, warn his people of the betrayal that would inevitably follow. He'd be able to win Tercerian over for sure, and then Gemino and his legions would face a difficult choice. Flee Samnium or be slaughtered in a massacre to rival Cannae.



AN: A little AU thing where Gemino gets his dying wish granted at the cost of granting Atellus his as well.
 
In general I feel as if your plan has too many moving parts, all of which bear a significant amount of risk and consequence each, and for very marginal gains.

With regards to the Second, it feels as if we're disrupting the teamwork and organization of the cohorts which would affect morale in the short term. Additionally, Romans can treat their wounded on the move, so reorganizing them seems like a needless move when a fraction of them might be in decent shape after a few days.

Having them move to Bovianum also feels relatively half-baked. A single cohort filled with wounded men is literally, clearly a token force, unable to spread themselves to adequately protect supply lines, nor placate the town. The advance warning should Tercerian move is good though, but if Tercerian does move, we just lost a Cohort and a town instead of losing just the town.

Then there's the issue of the slaves, where I defer to the following response:

At best, they deliver the message, at meh, they do nothing but go home, and at worst they become bandits or join Medix. Besides, word of Gemino's defeat will already spread through the Samnite Auxiliaries and Himatus's men.

If we defeat Medix, everything else becomes moot, because all Samnite resistance basically becomes laughably inconsequential, so any PR gain from this becomes worthless.

Then there's the Roman morale angle, where killing prisoners or enslaving them is the norm, but here you are letting them go, right after Mercator already chewed us out.

I'm not risk averse, but it just doesn't seem worth it here.
I'll acknowledge some of this, but I've talked repeatedly about addressing the "disrupted teamwork" issue at least partially by shifting around centuries wholesale instead of shuttling men between units. It hasn't even gotten the level of traction where people say "oh, I don't think that goes far enough" or "hm, that makes things less of a problem."
 
Omake: A Review of Atellus: Son of Rome
A Historical Movie Worthy of a Summer Blockbuster:
A Review of Atellus: Son of Rome
by A. F. Raeder

Let me start off with this: superhero origin stories are one of the hottest trends in Hollywood right now, and if it were not for the historical setting, one might mistake Atellus for one after seeing it. Many of us who went to college took a "History of Rome" class as an elective, or have seen several historical dramas depicting the Late Republic or the Principate (the early Roman Empire, if you will) and found the mix of war, intrigue, politics and power plays fascinating. This film takes all of that, and makes its personal. The historical Cingulatus Atellus was a major player in the time of the Late Republic, and Atellus shows us how he rose to be one of the greats.

The film begins with the funeral of his father and our titular hero assuming the headship of his ancient family. Later, once in Rome, if you listen closely, you can hear other Patricians in the background whispering about his family and the "Punic Curse" which was their downfall. Not to get too off track, but Atellus' family had been major proponents for destroying Carthage, backing Cato the Elder, only to see misfortune fall upon them time and again. This is another thing that really set the tone for the film. The inextricable mingling of the natural and supernatural was reflective of the times, and leads back to the superhero origin trope, making things feel larger than life.

Once in Rome, following a prophecy of his future, young Atellus comes face to face with some of the biggest names of Rome for the next several decades. It also displays the complex political situation in the city. Atellus, despite his patrician background, is secretly a populist idealist, studying under one of the staunchest elitist conservatives, befriends Cicero, a conservative, makes an enemy of Pompey, political opportunist, then goes on to become the protégé of Sertorius, a moderate populist but personal enemy of the arch-conservative Sulla, who is at war with the populist many-times hero of Rome, Marius. Got that? Because that is about as bare-bones of a description that can get.

One of the most striking scenes of the film was the sanctification of the Sixth Legion. Despite the rather graphic depiction of a pagan sacrifice, it has a weight to it, as if Mars Gradivus was actually present in anointing the officers of the Sixth. A cool little behind-the-scenes note from the director was that the scene was filmed in two parts; the first part up to the pouring of the blood was shot first, then, after a prodigious exercise regimen, the visibly more fit actors had the blood poured over them. The camera pans out after the rite, giving the impression that it was because of the rite that the officers are visibly more fit and cut.

The film proceeds to the Samnite war, with young Atellus leading the first cohort. For those of you that don't know, the first cohort of any legion was the most elite unit, filled with veterans and organizationally larger than the other cohorts. It is led by the primus pilus, the most veteran centurion (non-commissioned officer) and literally the first man into battle when the entire legion is deployed. For the sake of brevity, the film skips over Atellus' activities on the march, but he judged cases, ensured the legion was paid (with bonuses) and studied under Sertorius.

At this point, young Atellus is an untested commander, leading the best veterans of the legion. They grudgingly follow orders, and between him, his aide Tercerus, and the Primus Pilus Mercator, they are able to lead the first cohort to two victories. After the first town, young Atellus spares a priestess, Visellia Mertia, who would go on to become his enemy, much as in a superhero origin story. The Battle at Aeclanum really shows the opposition the Samnites will give, as even half-starved farmers fight like lions against the wolves of the first cohort. It is a scene of both heroism and slaughter, and the bandit and would-be traitor Spurio is also killed.

Upon their triumphant return to the legion, Atellus proceeds to give one of the cheekiest lines to Sertorius, who really begins to acknowledge young Atellus as his father's son. Thus, he shows utmost confidence in the 18-year-old tribune by giving him command of half the legion, to keep the city of Bovianum from turning away from Rome. It is on this stretch of the campaign that Atellus meets his first true nemesis. The rebel and bandit Gemino, a Samnite hero from the last war against Sulla, has been raiding around the city, depriving it of food. As young Atellus sets up shop and begins to bring the situation to heel, he comes to realize that Gemino is the greatest threat to his mission, especially after a threatening note is posted inside his tent with no one the wiser.

Atellus proceeds to sweep Gemino's support base out from under him by subverting the elders of the local Samnites with the "Sword and the Hand" speech, parts of which were recycled centuries later by the Roman Emperor Marcus Aurelian (one of the good ones). Meanwhile, there is an interlude where Gemino visits the local Sybil to gain insight on how to defeat his enemies. The Sybil prophesizes that he has the chance to break the Roman war effort, but that Atellus (all but referenced in name) could be his downfall. In response to Gemino raising forces and attempting to coopt a neighboring rebel army numbering in the thousands, Atellus marshals his force, and performs an augury, much like when the legion was sanctified. The augury is auspicious, as once the rite begins, the howling of wolves (Mars' sacred animal, and representative animal of Rome) begins, and does not end until the rite concludes. Victory is assured, for Mars rides with them.

The climactic battle of the film is the first and final showdown between Atellus and Gemino: the Battle of the Tabelline Pass. Knowing that Gemino must go through a certain pass to reach the other rebel army, Atellus positions his force to blockade that pass. Rather than emerge onto unfavorable open ground, Gemino holes up in the hills, daring Atellus to march into the meat grinder. Here, Atellus shows the tactical cunning which would so characterize him in the future. Using his hard-won rapport with the Gallic Auxiliary cavalry, he uses them and samnite scouts provided by one of his local allies to slip past Gemino's scouts and into the hills. Using his best men, Atellus sends the veteran second cohort to smash into Gemino's flank though a lightly guarded pass. As Gemino wheels his army to face the second cohort, even pushing them back, Atellus springs his trap, a massive flanking attack from the expected (and now unguarded) direction. It is only through Gemino's quick response that the Samnite army does not collapse.

That the battle does not end in an immediate Samnite rout is a testament to their stubborn tenacity, as shown at Aeclanum. Despite being outnumbered, outmaneuvered, and totally surrounded, they fight on. It is only after a long, hard-fought battle that the Samnite army breaks. As it does, Gemino leads a small force an escapes into the pass where the battle started, only to be run down by Atellus and his Gallic cavalry. This is the first time the two foes meet face to face, one defeated, one triumphant. Gemino, with the prophecy on his mind, can't help a morbid chuckle. The pair exchange banter, before expressing mutual respect, wishing that the other had been born on their side. Rather than suffer defeat and servitude, Gemino takes his own life, much like Killmonger does in the recent Black Panther film.

Atellus ends on this note, triumphant, but unfinished. The main Samnite army is still in command of a city, and rebels still inhabit the countryside, but Atellus has had his own victory, leading men who had been as inexperienced as he just months before. Atellus has made a name for himself, swaying the formerly intractable Samnites, and ending the man who had defied Sulla. He has taken his first step on the road to greatness. I hope that later installments of the franchise will maintain its supernatural commingling, while exploring some of his later feats (Spoilers!).

Though I deeply love this film, I must acknowledge some inconsistencies and gaps. The film does gloss over most of Atellus' first year in Rome, mostly to save screen time for the Samnite war and to showcase the big names of the day and of the future. There is a Julius Caesar homage, as you can barely make out some senators mentioning that "Marius' nephew wouldn't amount to much" as well as a reference to the father of Caesar's lieutenant, Marc Antony, when Atellus comments that a man "looks rather chalky." Aditionally, the dialogue between Gemino and Atellus is gleaned mostly from entries from Atellus' war journal and his rather rambling correspondence with Cicero. The contents of the "Sword and Hand" speech was a dramatic reconstruction of the remnants recorded in Atellus's journal and Marcus Aurelian's speech. Also, there is a Monty Python reference in one scene set in Bovianum; as Atellus is walking the streets of the city with his ally, Marius Himatus, in an alley, there is graffiti proclaiming "Romani ite domum," from The Life of Brian.

Overall, I found Atellus to be a greatly enjoyable film, though I am clearly biased as a historian. The production team went through great pains to make the film as historically accurate as possible, even though the film is predominantly in spoken English. Little notes, such as Atellus' subordinates and associates hint at his future exploits. I would greatly recommend this film to anyone interested in Roman history, or even people who enjoy action, intrigue and drama, and are only passingly familiar with history. You can always educate yourself and come back to enjoy it with deeper understanding.

A.F. Raeder is a historian and amateur film critic who occasionally contributes to this journal.
 
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Adhoc vote count started by Nurgle on Apr 11, 2018 at 7:04 PM, finished with 136 posts and 62 votes.

  • [X] Plan Moving Forward
    -[X] Turn and march immediately for Nola, in order to reinforce Sertorius and the Hirpini in the siege.
    -[X] Sell them into slavery, both increasing your own personal coffers and gaining more money for the legion.
    [X] Plan Celeritas et Clementia
    -[X] Reassign able-bodied men from the Second Cohort to fill out the other cohorts' ranks. Transfer walking wounded who cannot keep pace or fight effectively to the Second, in like number.
    -[X] Send Pompolussa, what remains of the Second Cohort, Himatus and his men back to Bovianum along with all the wounded, to ensure the supply train stays secured. Task them with keeping an ear out for Tercerian in case he tries to attack Bovianum or attempts to aid the rebels in Nola by attacking your cohorts from the rear.
    -[X] Inform the captured rebels that they will be forgiven for following Gemino and allowed to return to their homes, on two conditions. Any who do not swear to these two conditions have refused Rome's clemency, and will be sold into slavery.
    --[X] Firstly, the captives will receive a scarring notch on their right earlobe. If any man so marked ever abuses Rome's clemency by standing in her way again, that man will be crucified.
    --[X] Secondly, the captives must convey a message to their home villages: Bovianum bent the knee to Rome. On that day, Bovianum chose to meet Rome's open hand. Gemino, in his arrogance, persecuted Bovianum. On that day, Gemino chose to face Rome's sword hand. The sword has fallen. Gemino is dead. Soon, the legion will return. All villages that bend the knee to Rome will not be harmed, as Bovianum was not harmed. All those thieves and bandits who have persecuted those villages will be destroyed by the sword of Rome, as I have destroyed Gemino. Wherever those who persecute the villages may be, and however strong they may appear, they will be destroyed. Remember, and beware!
    -[X] With the rest of the cohorts (excepting the rump of the Second), slightly filled out by troops drawn from the Second, march immediately to Nola in order to reinforce Sertorius and the Hirpini in the siege.
 
[X] Plan Celeritas et Clementia

Frankly, picking this because it sounds like it'll make for a better story and/or social effect on the villages and/or rebels about. Also has better assignment of men after this sort of exhausting battle.
 
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I rather fear the movie industry is not capable of making the movie you just reviewed. I mean, it sounds too good to be true.
I could see it as a TV miniseries. Something HBO might do.

[] Plan Celeritas et Clementia

Frankly, picking this because it sounds like it'll make for a better story and/or social effect on the villages and/or rebels about. Also has better assignment of men after this sort of exhausting battle.
At this point I'm legitimately convinced that it would be better to keep the centuries together and swap some centuries around, but nobody else has commented on it and I'm unsure what to think or whether to alter the plan. Plus, y'know, unless it caused several people to flip their vote, it'd be kind of pointless.

[My new idea was to take one century from the Second and temporarily attach it to each of the other cohorts, leaving a rump force in Bovianum comparable to the existing plan, but without the problem of commingling men from different centuries together among men they don't know and have no experience working/fighting with]
 
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