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Rebel Moon

Love that Zach Snyder was like "eh fuck it, just keep them lightsabers" even after it stopped being a Star Wars movie
 
"Mom, can we get Star Wars?"

"No, we have Star Wars at home."

Looks kinda cool actually. It's hilarious that like... yeah... it's NOT!Star Wars.

Going in with caution because, Zach Snyder. But i'm not gonna say no to some more Space Opera. MOAR SPACE OPERA!
 
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‘Rebel Moon’ Shouldn’t Need a Director’s Cut. Zack Snyder Is Doing One Anyway

The filmmaker promises a Snyder Cut that's an hour longer than his upcoming two-part Netflix movie. But why is one needed in the first place?
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... Presumably, if Snyder wanted Rebel Moon to be longer — and given he already had the creative freedom to shoot the additional footage and the budget to finish it with visual effects — why not just release that version on the streaming service instead and then stand by it?

For his part, Snyder recognizes that his penchant for retroactively reworking his films is somewhat "notorious," and explained his reasoning thusly on Netflix's PR site:

"The director's cut is close to an hour of extra content, so I think it's a legitimate extended universe version," he said. "You really get to see a lot. It's just more painted-in all the way. The director's [cut] is a settle-in deep dive, which I have notoriously done throughout my career. I don't know how I got into this director's cut thing, but what I will say about it is that, for me, the director's cuts have always been something I had to fight for in the past and nobody wanted it. It was this bastard child that I was always trying to put together because they felt like there was a deeper version. And with Netflix, we shot scenes just for the director's cut. So in that way, it's really a revelation because it gives that second kick at the can for big fans, like a real discovery that they would not [otherwise] get. I'm really excited about it!"
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gizmodo.com

Evil Genius Sues Netflix Over Canceled Rebel Moon TTRPG

Zack Snyder’s rejected Star Wars film was supposed to have a massive TTRPG released ahead of its premiere.
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Today, tabletop roleplaying game publisher Evil Genius filed a lawsuit against Netflix for Breach of Contract. Evil Genius was hired to create a franchise TTRPG for Zack Snyder's Rebel Moon, and alleges that after working alongside Netflix and Snyder, Netflix unceremoniously terminated its contract.

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At the time of the alleged breach of contract, in May of 2023, the complaint asserts that the TTRPG was nearly done, and the two sellable products–a 430-page Player's Guide and a 337-page Game Master's Guide–were in the final editing stages. There was also a massive internal document produced: a Rebel Moon "World Bible," detailing original details about the setting and characters of Rebel Moon which was being used as a reference for Evil Genius during the development of the TTRPG.

Because Netflix wanted to release the TTRPG just before the release of the film in December, Evil Genius alleges that it lost opportunities due to prioritizing the Rebel Moon project.

Netflix terminated the agreement with Evil Genius based on the claim that Evil Genius breached confidentiality provisions. There are two instances where the breach could have occurred. According to the complaint, the first instance occured when Evil Genius Games—alongside two Netflix employees—distributed images during a February trade show as part of a retailer buzz campaign. The second time was when Evil Genius Games uploaded two non-final, teaser cover images onto the back end of its site for the purposes of retailer pre-order, and through administrative error, accidentally made the portal accessible to the public. These two non-final images were uploaded to social media in May, and it was after this that Netflix terminated its agreement with Evil Genius Games.

Then, according to the complaint, in June, Netflix sent another message to Evil Genius saying that the World Bible, which includes significant chunks of worldbuilding and development that greatly expands the Rebel Moon universe far beyond the script, "belongs solely and exclusively to Netflix." Netflix allegedly offered Evil Genius $50,000 for this property, but an agreement was not met. Evil Genius wants to release the game and receive compensation for its work.
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Zack Snyder’s ‘Rebel Moon – Part One’ Sets Limited 70mm Theatrical Run in Four Major Cities Ahead of Netflix Debut

Zack Snyder's space adventure film "Rebel Moon -- Part One: A Child of Fire" has set a one-week theatrical run ahead of its debut on Netflix.
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... The film will be playing exclusively on 70mm from Dec. 15-21 at the following locations: Los Angeles (Egyptian Theatre), New York City (Paris Theater), Toronto (TIFF Bell Lightbox) and London (Prince Charles Cinema). Netflix owns the Paris Theater and the Egyptian Theatre. The first "Rebel Moon" film streams Dec. 22 on Netflix.

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Snyder said recently that "Rebel Moon" and his last film, the Netflix zombie action movie "Army of the Dead," are part of the same universe.

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The second "Rebel Moon" film, titled "The Scargiver," will arrive on April 19, 2024.
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Look, my relationship with Zach Snyder is a lot like Hansel's relationship with Sting - the movie's he's created over the years, I don't really like them, but the fact that he's making them, I respect that. He's basically one of the last pure Auteur's working in the genre space, and even if I don't really like uh any of his films I have to give it up to the dude for still going balls-to-the-wall even though he's only made pretty much one (and a half, maybe?) movie's that was critically well regarded and hung together.

But this? This is giving me strong The Creator vibes - bananas world building and production design wrapped around a story you've seen before and done better countless times.
 
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View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhr3MzT6exg
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God, that man is just completely allergic to subtext. His movies end up this long because half the runtime (and 100% of the dialogue) is characters verbalizing The Themes to each-other in the most stilted and ham-fisted way imaginable. I fully believe that Zack Snyder's ideal method for you to view one of his films would be for him to be there, in your home, explaining every scene to you as it happens (and while the characters on-screen are also explaining to each-other what they are doing and why). Then he would mail you a video-taped recording of his explanation, with four hours of additional explanation edited in at appropriate points, and new sequences for the film created to play in the background during those segments. To explain a movie/show/whatever that contains exactly one proposition; that violence is cool and it's cool when the good guys do the same kind of violence that the bad guys do, because heroes are stupid.

Also the CGI looks like ass.
 
Honestly I think the best way to experience Zach Snyder is him inviting you over to his house for a BBQ, and then you just chill on a deck chair or in a hammock with a beer and a joint while he chain smokes and breaks down all his ideas for his Battle Beyond the Starhammer 40 Wars universe, and you get to occasionally interject with "Yeah?" and "Wow, that's crazy" between burger bites

Then six months later he gifts you an insane book of concept art you sometimes put out on the coffee table
 
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Arthur Frayn said:
Honestly I think the best way to experience Zach Snyder is him inviting you over to his house for a BBQ, and then you just chill on a deck chair or in a hammock with a beer and a joint while he chain smokes and breaks down all his ideas for his Battle Beyond the Starhammer 40 Wars universe, and you get to occasionally interject with "Yeah?" and "Wow, that's crazy" between burger bites

Then six months later he gifts you an insane book of concept art you sometimes put out on the coffee table
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I could've sworn that someone once described 2000s-era Michael Bay the exact same way. Except for the coffee table book, and you're supposed to keep saying "awesome" instead.
 
maskedanddanger said:
Yup, that certainly is a Stars War 40k.
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I've already given my impression.

I don't think it's going to be bad, I think it's going to be generic. Going back at the Heroes Journey in Space from first principles is gonna just end up with Star Wars, and one can't help but see parallels to the Sequel Trilogy in specific with what we've been shown and what we have seen. Adding a little more Jason and the Argonauts doesn't hide the fact we've seen this story before.

It's actually kind of funny, because it's the same problem my attempt at writing a Space Opera verse for a TTRPG campaign ran into, which is why that project is sitting in my google docs while other campaign ideas see play. Star Wars and 40k are just too big of black hole to not get sucked into when trying to work out space mythology.
 
Speaking as someone who's not a Zach fan, I've seen NO positive reviews for this. Other than the 'Snyderverse DC' fans anyway.
 
I think Zack sorta painted himself into a corner. He's not really popular with reviewers as it is and hes likely alienated a lot of the ones he picked up during the Snyder cut saga since they liked him because they projected a bunch of right wing culture war shit on him and his sucsess as a creator when... from the looks of things Rebel Moon looks like an extremely diverse movie with a strong female lead.
 
You know I'm still baffled by the decision to go with the plot being over a goddamn crop harvest. Like... come on, I know not every sci-fi space opera needs galaxy defining stakes, this still just feels a bit.... milquestoast for the intensity the film seems to want to convey.
 
Arthur Frayn said:
Honestly I think the best way to experience Zach Snyder is him inviting you over to his house for a BBQ, and then you just chill on a deck chair or in a hammock with a beer and a joint while he chain smokes and breaks down all his ideas for his Battle Beyond the Starhammer 40 Wars universe, and you get to occasionally interject with "Yeah?" and "Wow, that's crazy" between burger bites

Then six months later he gifts you an insane book of concept art you sometimes put out on the coffee table
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That... actually yes. I keep thinking "I actually like the idea of that" when the notion of a project of his gets described, but he seems determined to never ever EVER recognise that some of his ideas are a bit dumb. He's banging toys together and yelling "this one's trying to rape the other and it's mythical! It's profound!"

This time the frustration is multiplied by the fact that I want more space fantasy as it is. I watch and read plenty of Star Wars and 40K but my word, what I wouldn't give for non-franchise stuff on the big and small screen. And just as Star Wars keeps trending less colourful, this looks very grimly muted.
 
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tankdrop24 said:
You know I'm still baffled by the decision to go with the plot being over a goddamn crop harvest. Like... come on, I know not every sci-fi space opera needs galaxy defining stakes, this still just feels a bit.... milquestoast for the intensity the film seems to want to convey.
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When you're making sci-fi seven samurai, you'd think that would be the first plot point you change.
 
tankdrop24 said:
You know I'm still baffled by the decision to go with the plot being over a goddamn crop harvest. Like... come on, I know not every sci-fi space opera needs galaxy defining stakes, this still just feels a bit.... milquestoast for the intensity the film seems to want to convey.
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i mean, people still have to eat in space. like, there's a real tendency for sff fiction to go so wide and wild with stakes and motivations as to hinder the audience's comprehension of those stakes and motivations - if the Dark Lady Malicia is trying to obtain The Crystal Polyhedron Of Destiny, the only immediate way for the audience to know that will lead to Bad Stuff is that Dark Ladies rarely have altruistic aims or intentions.
whereas an army showing up and demanding they be given all of a village's crops, women, and children makes it pretty clear what's going down.
 
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