Presidente's and Comandante's - A Latin American Dictator Quest
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[X] Plan: Getting Swift Justice v
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[X] Plan: Getting Swift Justice v.2
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[X] Plan: Foundations
-[X] [Speech] Promise a major land reform to redistribute the farmland stolen under your predecessor's rule.
-[X] [Speech] Promise the swift and harsh persecution of the previous regime and those who aided it.
-[X] [Deployment] Surround San Miguel. (1 Point)
-[X] [Deployment] Secure Puerto Novo and it's plantations. (1 Point)
-[X] [Deployment] Secure Coasta Gris and it's fishing and trade harbour. (1 Point)
-[X] [Deployment] Take the town of Blanco Brilla and arrest Vergara's cronies living there. (1 Point)
-[X] [Deployment] Secure the town of Huizanola in the western jungle. (1 Point)
-[X] [Speech] Promise a major land reform to redistribute the farmland stolen under your predecessor's rule.
-[X] [Speech] Promise the swift and harsh persecution of the previous regime and those who aided it.
-[X] [Deployment] Surround San Miguel. (1 Point)
-[X] [Deployment] Secure Puerto Novo and it's plantations. (1 Point)
-[X] [Deployment] Secure Coasta Gris and it's fishing and trade harbour. (1 Point)
-[X] [Deployment] Take the town of Blanco Brilla and arrest Vergara's cronies living there. (1 Point)
-[X] [Deployment] Secure the town of Huizanola in the western jungle. (1 Point)
We can stomp the secret police tomorrow, but cleaning house should probably be done today, less something falls through the cracks.
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[X] Plan: Foundations
Looks like I got here a little too late to vote, but I do want to say I think there's a serious problem with making "justice" for the secret police a cornerstone of the first speech while also forgoing attacking them. Surrounding them would have been fine if the plan was to come to some kind of arrangement, but they know they're dead men now and there's no deal to be made. We can expect they'll try some sort of extreme action to break the encirclement and escape, not passively wait to see what comes next.
Prologue – Hopes and Promises
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Prologue – Hopes and Promises
Within less than an hour, the plaza before the presidential palace had filled up with a huge crowd. The building that had once been the colonial governor's office stood for the nation of Atontierra like nothing else. Even the flag changed every decade or so, but the palace remained. Each and every leader of the country had stood on its balcony and addressed the people upon their ascension to office. Most had done so regularly. Presidente Vergara too had spoken there at least once a month, though nobody would have bothered to attend in recent years had FEIS not 'encouraged' them.
No such measures were necessary today. Quite the contrary. The plaza was lined with tanks and trucks of the small military detachment that had accompanied the new Presidente into the capital, but instead of forcing people to come, they were hard pressed to keep order. Half of San Reina seemed to be there, and the stream of people just wouldn't stop. Everyone was waiting with a mix of hope and dread on their new leaders first speech. Most of them already knew about General Estrada, but very few had ever seen or heard the man himself.
A hush fell over the mass of people when he finally appeared. For once eschewing his sunglasses and the generals cap, Estrade strode onto the balcony with a short wave towards the silent crowd below. Not one sound came from the mass of humanity until he had reached the small pulpit and spoke into the microphone standing upon it.
"My fellow Atontierran's," his voice droned from the speakers. "Many of you who stand before me today or who are listening on the radio right now might feel uncertain. Fearful even. For many years, we lived under the rule of a tyrant and his corrupt junta. Many of you might not even remember a time before the rule of Alvar Vergara. For the first time in many years, the future of our great nation is uncertain."
"But there is no reason for fear! Today should not be a day of fretting over tomorrow, but of celebrating the chances it will bring. Today, we leave behind decades of oppression and terror and we will begin to build better a future for us all. Today is a day of celebration and a day we will look fondly look back on for years to come as the begin of something better than what came before."
4 (Oration) + 2 (He Can't Be Worse) = 6 dice -> 6 4 3 1 4 = 14
A few voices rose and barely a heartbeat later, a ragged cheer ripped through the crowd. For years, no one dared to speak ill of the Presidente, always fearful who might hear them. Even when the news went around that he was dead, the fear remained, noxiously clinging to every word and smothering the hope they should have carried. But now it sank in. Vergara was dead. FEIS was gone. They were free of his rule.
"For now, I have decided to take the office as interim Presidente until a permanent government can be established," General Estrade continued once the din had settled again. "The military has been sent to the cities to maintain peace and order for the time being and I ask all citizens to aid them in this during the transition period." The cheers were more muted at this announcement, but they were there none the less.
When the crowd quieted down, he raised his hand as if swearing an oath. "As for those who aided and profited from the rule of the despot Vergara, especially the brutal thugs of the secret police, I promise nothing more or less than swift and harsh justice for their crimes. We will never forget or forgive what they have taken from us and they will be held to account for their deeds."
4 (Oration) - 2 (Sinister Reputation) = 2 dice -> 5 3 = 8
No cheers followed this announcement. Only a murmur went through the crowd as people wondered what this justice would look like. The former Presidente had also often spoken of justice and delivered only a mockery of it and many had heard the tales of what the new one had done during the World War. Some though did applaud after a while and the speech went on before anyone could dwell too long on the matter.
"Finally, we will soon begin steps to right the most egregious wrong committed by the old regime. The theft of land and farms from the people of Atontierra. In the coming weeks and months, we will begin drawing up plans for a far-reaching land reform. No longer will good farmland lay fallow. No longer will the sweat of your brow enrich a few corrupt officials while you languish in hunger and poverty. Our land is rich and fertile, and it is time that this wealth will benefit the people once more."
4 (Oration) + 3 (Extremely Popular Policy) = 7 dice -> 2 3 5 6 5 3 2 = 16
A new wave of cheers rose, louder than even the first and banishing any lingering doubts left by the previous announcement. It was, all things considered, a vague promise. One that could mean any number of things to anyone who heard. That was why it was so effective. Everyone in the crowd and elsewhere had some notion of what the right way to redistribute the land would be and for the moment they all imagined that the new Presidente saw things exactly like them.
"It will not happen over-night," the General continued. "Much work lays ahead of us. But as long as we are united in our purpose, we can achieve whatever goal we set our sights on. Let us all work together from this day on. For Atontierra! For our future!"
The cheers continued, even after Estrade had left the balcony and on that evening, for the first time in years, the streets of San Reina were filled with the sound of celebrations instead of quiet fear.
Unfortunately for the man that had helped to bring this good cheer about, the news coming from elsewhere in the country were dampening the mood in the palace quite considerably.
The town of Huizanola had been taken without many problems. There was a report of some movement in the jungle that the scouts believed to be guerrilla activity, but there had been no attacks at least. With the mountains more or less ceded to the control of ERPA, it would likely be here that any new clashes would erupt. Presuming Velasquaz would order his people to attack. It was still anyone's guess how the anarchist would take the events of the last few days.
Likewise, Puerto Novo had made no problems either. One of the local planters, Rolan Cordero, the only one left who knew what he was doing with his plantation, rallied some people for some kind of meeting, but they had made no attempts to challenge the soldiers taking control of the city. Instead, the man had formally requested to speak with Presidente Estrada at his earliest convenience.
Things in the southern city of Costa Gris were much more tense. When news broke that Veraga was dead, a mob had formed and marched on the local FEIS offices. The secret police had not hesitated to shoot at the civilians, but they were completely outnumbered and quickly overwhelmed. The reports of what happened next were murkier. There was talk of torture victims and a mass grave being found. Some claimed that FEIS fought down to the last man while others accused the mob of lynching anyone that surrendered.
When the army arrived with tanks, the crowd did not disperse and there was talk of some sort of council being formed. So far, the soldiers had been hesitant to engage with the civilians and instead took over the outskirts of the city where they were not contested. No fighting had broken out so far though the situation was tense.
In Blanco Brilla, there had been shots fired between the soldiers and some of the private guards of Vergara's cronies. A few of them had seen the signs the day before and already fled, but most were either too slow, felt too secure in their position or simply had been too busy trying to plunder as much as they could and missed the right time to leave. A good chunk of the gold that was supposed to be in the treasury had been secured in the hacienda of now former interior minister and while there was still a lot of Antontierra's wealth unaccounted for, it at least meant that the new government wouldn't have to beg for loans abroad as its first official act.
Lastly, there was San Miguel. The General's speech had been heard on radios there too and FEIS had not appreciated what was said. Shortly after the speech ended, there had been a small group that tried to leave the compound but which was stopped by one of the armies hastily set up roadblocks. Fire had been exchanged and the FEIS members retreated quickly back to San Miguel. About two hours later, gunfire was heard again, but none of the armies checkpoints were under attack and shortly after smoke began to rise over the compound.
The struggle for Atontierra had been relatively bloodless so far, but it was clear that it was not yet over.
You can send reinforcements to one location.
[] [Reinforcements] Send more troops to San Miguel and start an attack on the compound.
[] [Reinforcements] Reinforce the garrison at Huizanola to deter the guerrillas further.
[] [Reinforcements] Have more soldiers sent to Costa Gris to break up the mob in the city center.
There are plenty of people you need to talk to, but only so much time to do so. You have 3 points to spend on some urgent diplomacy.
[] [Estrada] Talk with the bishop of San Reina. The aid of the church would greatly help your legitimacy. (1 Point)
[] [Estrada] Go to the radio station of San Reina. They are vital to spread your propaganda. (1 Point)
[] [Estrada] Receive Seneca Coronado in the palace. He has contacts that could help your economy. (1 Point)
[] [Estrada] Summon any ambassadors that are in the capital. You need to get your message out to the world to build legitimacy abroad. (1 Point)
[] [Estrada] Building a new government will require educated people. Get in contact with the capitals intelligentsia to secure their aid. (1 Point)
[] [Estrada] Personally go to Costa Gris and speak with the people there. You might be able to defuse the situation better than your soldiers can. (2 Points)
[] [Estrada] Try to talk with the people in San Miguel to negotiate their surrender. (2 Points)
[] [Estrada] There is nothing to talk about with FEIS. Lead the assault on San Miguel in person. (2 Points)
[] [Estrada] Send a radio message to the ERPA guerrillas and try to arrange a meeting with Velasquez to end the fighting. (2 Points)
AN: Decent rolls all over. You were never going to get everyone in Blanco Brilla, but you got a good chunk of money and people to put on trial.
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Good start (?)
I say deploy our troops to assault the compound (since I don't know what they're doing in there, but at a guess, the answer would be completely wiping their records), talk to the radio and calm the crowds.
Unfortunate, because I'd like to win over the Bishop too, but the Bishop + envoys or capitalist contracts isn't really worth letting this escalate further. Hopefully the good Father understands that we're really pressed for time here.
I say deploy our troops to assault the compound (since I don't know what they're doing in there, but at a guess, the answer would be completely wiping their records), talk to the radio and calm the crowds.
Unfortunate, because I'd like to win over the Bishop too, but the Bishop + envoys or capitalist contracts isn't really worth letting this escalate further. Hopefully the good Father understands that we're really pressed for time here.
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[X] Plan: Pragmatic President
-[X] [Reinforcements] Reinforce the garrison at Huizanola to deter the guerrillas further.
-[X] [Estrada] Summon any ambassadors that are in the capital. You need to get your message out to the world to build legitimacy abroad. (1 Point)
-[X] [Estrada] Personally go to Costa Gris and speak with the people there. You might be able to defuse the situation better than your soldiers can. (2 Points)
Reinforcing the garrison at Huizanola probably seems to be the best option, since launching an assault on San Miguel will likely result in a lot of casualties which are critically needed in the opening stages of our takeover and sending more troops to Costa Guiz may serve only to raise the tension there and cause a possible revolt against the Presidente. As for our diplomatic options, I say soothe over the protestors at Costa Guiz with our sliver-tongued wit and get the word out to the world that we are the legitimate government of Atontierra, lest we cede the early advantage to FEIS or ERPA.
-[X] [Reinforcements] Reinforce the garrison at Huizanola to deter the guerrillas further.
-[X] [Estrada] Summon any ambassadors that are in the capital. You need to get your message out to the world to build legitimacy abroad. (1 Point)
-[X] [Estrada] Personally go to Costa Gris and speak with the people there. You might be able to defuse the situation better than your soldiers can. (2 Points)
Reinforcing the garrison at Huizanola probably seems to be the best option, since launching an assault on San Miguel will likely result in a lot of casualties which are critically needed in the opening stages of our takeover and sending more troops to Costa Guiz may serve only to raise the tension there and cause a possible revolt against the Presidente. As for our diplomatic options, I say soothe over the protestors at Costa Guiz with our sliver-tongued wit and get the word out to the world that we are the legitimate government of Atontierra, lest we cede the early advantage to FEIS or ERPA.
LucidProp
Pocky Eating MafiaDoka
[X] Plan: Face the FEIS
-[X] [Reinforcements] Reinforce the garrison at Huizanola to deter the guerrillas further.
-[X] [Estrada] Go to the radio station of San Reina. They are vital to spread your propaganda. (1 Point)
-[X] [Estrada] There is nothing to talk about with FEIS. Lead the assault on San Miguel in person. (2 Points)
The mob at Costa Gris hates the FEIS, and we can show them that we're their friends by personally going to kill as many of the rats as we can and quickly fulfilling one of our campaign promises. Estrada has pretty good military theory so he should have little trouble with this even without reinforcements. To further ensure that the people of Costa Gris know this, securing propaganda centers is essential. Estrada's actions will speak louder than any words of calm to the protestors, especially when augmented by radio and any faults the siege may have smoothened out by propaganda.
In the meantime, we can secure our flank by the mountains to make sure the guerillas don't do anything funny on the eve of El Presidente's victory.
-[X] [Reinforcements] Reinforce the garrison at Huizanola to deter the guerrillas further.
-[X] [Estrada] Go to the radio station of San Reina. They are vital to spread your propaganda. (1 Point)
-[X] [Estrada] There is nothing to talk about with FEIS. Lead the assault on San Miguel in person. (2 Points)
The mob at Costa Gris hates the FEIS, and we can show them that we're their friends by personally going to kill as many of the rats as we can and quickly fulfilling one of our campaign promises. Estrada has pretty good military theory so he should have little trouble with this even without reinforcements. To further ensure that the people of Costa Gris know this, securing propaganda centers is essential. Estrada's actions will speak louder than any words of calm to the protestors, especially when augmented by radio and any faults the siege may have smoothened out by propaganda.
In the meantime, we can secure our flank by the mountains to make sure the guerillas don't do anything funny on the eve of El Presidente's victory.
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Military Theory is mostly rolled for strategic matters such as doctrine development, evaluating new military tech, structuring the army and high-level campaign planning.
Leading tactical engagements is Warfare, in which you have 5 points.
LucidProp
Pocky Eating MafiaDoka
One of our highest stats so that should still work out, I think.
By the way, can you give us a scale for the stat numbers for what's considered bad, good, and average? Just so we can better understand where Estrada's abilities lay.
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- Germany
Roughly:
1 - Untrained
2 - Amateur
3 - Skilled
5 - Expert
7 - World Class
10 - Genius
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[X] Plan: Pragmatic President
[X] Plan Diplomacy and FEIS Roundup
-[X] [Reinforcements] Send more troops to San Miguel and start an attack on the compound.
-[X] [Estrada] Go to the radio station of San Reina. They are vital to spread your propaganda. (1 Point)
-[X] [Estrada] Receive Seneca Coronado in the palace. He has contacts that could help your economy. (1 Point)
-[X] [Estrada] Summon any ambassadors that are in the capital. You need to get your message out to the world to build legitimacy abroad. (1 Point)
We have the Silver Tongued trait. Best to spread it around and try to talk to as many people as possible. I see no reason to go after FEIS in person when the presidente's time is more valuable elsewhere.
-[X] [Reinforcements] Send more troops to San Miguel and start an attack on the compound.
-[X] [Estrada] Go to the radio station of San Reina. They are vital to spread your propaganda. (1 Point)
-[X] [Estrada] Receive Seneca Coronado in the palace. He has contacts that could help your economy. (1 Point)
-[X] [Estrada] Summon any ambassadors that are in the capital. You need to get your message out to the world to build legitimacy abroad. (1 Point)
We have the Silver Tongued trait. Best to spread it around and try to talk to as many people as possible. I see no reason to go after FEIS in person when the presidente's time is more valuable elsewhere.
