Oh God, am I the Mannis now? - GoT/SI

You can easily claim Griffin's Roost for House Baratheon. It's lands are close enough to Storm's End to make that feasible, and you could appoint Renly in time as knight or lord to that land. You'd probably have to give away some land to the Morrigens for their loyalty owing to their rivalry with the Connigtons, but not too much and certainly not the keep itself. Appointing someone to hold it as castellan will do the trick in the interim, but eventually someone with a claim or great service will expect to be awarded something along those lines.

Regarding the Estermonts, there was no real sign that they didn't fight for the Baratheons during Robert's Rebellion, so I'd say that'd be your bit of fiction there. I'd argue on their behalf that barring the initial levies that went with Robert, any further forces were put off by the Redwyne blockade fleet and the fact that they're a small island fief that's lesser than Tarth in size.

Regarding the whole knighthood thing, squiring the lot of them makes sense, you just need to have enough knights to shepherd the fuckers and I'm not sure you have three hundred of them. The Stormbringers nickname is meh, not everything does need a nickname in ASOIAF and just having them called "Stannis's men" or "The Antler Men" works just fine, especially since the latter has some basis in canon and it works if they have antler helms or banners. Personally I'd just treat them as a group of well-paid heavy cavalry/infantry that serves House Baratheon of Storm's End, but it's not too unusual to have large numbers of household knights (Kevan Lannister had two hundred in his and I doubt he was super-particular about heritage) so I guess what you'd need to do is slowly build them up while making sure you had enough money to keep them fed and happy.

Regarding all the magical tech improvements.... eh. I couldn't be convinced in any reality that someone could remember all those bits and bobs, even in fragments as you've depicted here. Granted it's an SI and SI fics are basically wish-fulfillment from a certain character perspective, but I've just never bought that straight up.

Regarding Betsy the Seamstress and her reward. She could be young and unmarried, and a potential candidate to marry a household knight. If married with kids, you can promise to take her children into your household as squires/ladies in waiting.

Regarding ports. No, no, no. Storm's End works as a port because of how fuck-off massive and sturdy it is, but the seas are called Shipbreakers Bay for a reason. Any ports you build will have to compete with Storm's End (yours) and be on your own land, or compete with others like Weeping Town (Dornish Sea) and cost you an arm and a leg and not have total control. I'd focus more on strengthening the Stormlands and making use of your limited wealth and numbers (see Sweden under Charles the Great in regards to this) rather than dreams of port wealth.

Regarding danger. I'm not sure why you're expecting danger right away. There's the possibility that Varys is in court yes, and Tywin is a dangerous fellow always, but unless you're planning on delving right into the intrigue you as an SI have no skills at, then I'm not quite sure what you're so on guard about. As is, this has been relatively contained in changes outside of the Stormlands (Stannis's Tyrell wedding hasn't happened yet after all), so things should be going as planned so far.
 
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While these is a great idea, it will never work. For one the paramount lords have there own mints. Also coins are checked regular by the nobility for people pulling these. The biggest minter is the westerlands. So even trying it would piss them off. Finding people would also be a problem. Since these hurts the nobility. The upper class is always big on protecting what they have.

The best thing Stabbycan do to fuck over the nobility is increase farming yield production and train the peasants to fight.
Won't devaluing the currency also piss off the Iron Bank? Or at least, make it unlikely for them to deal with you. *Has been watching Spice and Wolf*
The best thing Stabbycan do to fuck over the nobility is increase farming yield production and train the peasants to fight.
Would he want to fuck over the nobility? Because he is the nobility.
 
Won't devaluing the currency also piss off the Iron Bank? Or at least, make it unlikely for them to deal with you. *Has been watching Spice and Wolf*

Would he want to fuck over the nobility? Because he is the nobility.

Well strictly speaking he doesn't have to be the done to do it. Anyone devaluaing the currency would work. Strictly speaking he doesn't have to convince them to do it. Provided he can increase the amounts of gold/silver being mined through new techniques it could still achieve the final end.

As to the last it devalues the wealth of gold stored. As someone whose wealth will be reinvested into income generating schemes he can see his wealth increase as those hoarding it see it degraded.
 
Won't devaluing the currency also piss off the Iron Bank? Or at least, make it unlikely for them to deal with you. *Has been watching Spice and Wolf*

Would he want to fuck over the nobility? Because he is the nobility.
Yes it would make it hard to trade with other countries. As soon as other countries find out prices would increase for the kingdoms.

The second way was just showing the best way to mess with nobility, since anything overt would lead to stiff resistance.
 
Why does every GOT SI want to mess with the nobility anyway? The setting isn't really ready for a more modern form of government.
Not every SI. Me and @Bizuneh know better, but I suspect it's because we come from more autocratic areas where democracy just doesn't magically happen and nobility historically existed for a reason as opposed to "democracy=shiny" New Worlders who live under oligarchic democracies.
 
You know triggering kingdoms wide inflation might make for a hefty way to deprive the entrenched nobility of their wealth.

While this is the one of the favorite methods for governments to get rid of their debt it has horrible consequences. If you go too far while devaluating currency value everyone simply stops using your currency because everyone knows that whatever they are trading away will almost certainly be worth much more than the currency they are receiving. You have to remember currency is not wealth in and of itself. Currency is a representation of wealth that everyone agrees to use because it makes trade easier.

This is even more of a problem in Westeros as most people would be bartering for goods anyways. This is mostly a problem because it makes trade even harder. Remember, House Baratheon has won. They have the throne. Stannis should doing his best to accelerate the movement of people and goods in order to knit the realm together and increase wealth.

In that vein I would like to point out that these people are not Stannis' enemies. They are his brother's subjects. Stannis should be trying to bring them into the fold and make them prosperous as well, not break them and create a hotbed of resentment which is going to erupt into a civil war (also Ice Zombies).

If you want examples of the problems of over saturation of currency in a pre modern society I would suggest looking at the Late Roman and Spanish Empires.

Also as far as tech goes we never really got a clear picture of what Westeros farmers actually know. I think it is a safe bet that you can draw the line at the agricultural revolution as far as production goes. However, Westeros might know about crop rotation, swing ploughs, seed drills and so on. The problem is that we don't know if the population limiter is production or storage due to the long winters.

That said I think that the direction you are going is the correct one. Invest in farming, try to increase productivity, facilitate trade and do your best to crack down on corruption. Honestly keeping corruption under control could easily turn into your biggest challenge but if you manage it you might be able to keep Westeros intact and growing.
 
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Not every SI. Me and @Bizuneh know better, but I suspect it's because we come from more autocratic areas where democracy just doesn't magically happen and nobility historically existed for a reason as opposed to "democracy=shiny" New Worlders who live under oligarchic democracies.

I live in a "shiny democracy" here in the scenic New World. However I do not believe a medieval fantasy society in a world of decades long seasons is really in the right place culturally to go for a democratic or even Roman Republic style system. Especially when you throw in the secret magic societies and dragons, etc.

They need a certain stability and the ability of their leaders to make snap decisions in the moment, and exercise uncontested power when circumstances get hairy. "Winter is Coming" after all.

Democracy is fine, if the culture is ready for it. If it isn't, bad shit happens. (Reign of Terror anyone?)

<- Doesn't live in a shiny democracy either ;)

So you get where I'm coming from, maybe? On the other hand I hope you aren't overburdened by whatever system you live under.

I hope you wont go crazy with the tech. When you win the game of thrones with your tanks it's not fun to read.

Game of Thrones, not World of Tanks! I agree wholeheartedly with this! I generally know how to make back powder, and actually succeeded in doing so a few years ago up in the mountains where my ancient as fuck grandparents live. It took a few weeks of puttering around, and wasn't very impressive when I got it to combust properly, but it was (low quality) black powder.

I have no illusions that I would ever be rolling out my own infantry riflemen with this knowledge. Maybe some crude grenades, if I got lucky.

Most of my attempts were more "wet fart" than "BOOM!", so I wouldn't be betting my future on my personal uptechinng skills in Stabby's position
 
I live in a "shiny democracy" here in the scenic New World. However I do not believe a medieval fantasy society in a world of decades long seasons is really in the right place culturally to go for a democratic or even Roman Republic style system. Especially when you throw in the secret magic societies and dragons, etc.

They need a certain stability and the ability of their leaders to make snap decisions in the moment, and exercise uncontested power when circumstances get hairy. "Winter is Coming" after all.

Democracy is fine, if the culture is ready for it. If it isn't, bad shit happens. (Reign of Terror anyone?)

MGS, you do realize I qualified my statement with SI, right? I'm not calling out every ASOIAF fan in existence. It's just that a lot of SI people around places like AH/SB/SV do have a tendency (as noted by another) to really spit-shine and work up Westeros into a democratic lather.
 
MGS, you do realize I qualified my statement with SI, right? I'm not calling out every ASOIAF fan in existence. It's just that a lot of SI people around places like AH/SB/SV do have a tendency (as noted by another) to really spit-shine and work up Westeros into a democratic lather.


Ummm.... Yeah? I wasn't aware I came off as attacking you. I have been up all night drinking, so my judgement is a bit impaired. Sorry if I offended.
 
You can easily claim Griffin's Roost for House Baratheon. It's lands are close enough to Storm's End to make that feasible, and you could appoint Renly in time as knight or lord to that land. You'd probably have to give away some land to the Morrigens for their loyalty owing to their rivalry with the Connigtons, but not too much and certainly not the keep itself. Appointing someone to hold it as castellan will do the trick in the interim, but eventually someone with a claim or great service will expect to be awarded something along those lines.

Regarding the Estermonts, there was no real sign that they didn't fight for the Baratheons during Robert's Rebellion, so I'd say that'd be your bit of fiction there. I'd argue on their behalf that barring the initial levies that went with Robert, any further forces were put off by the Redwyne blockade fleet and the fact that they're a small island fief that's lesser than Tarth in size.

Regarding the whole knighthood thing, squiring the lot of them makes sense, you just need to have enough knights to shepherd the fuckers and I'm not sure you have three hundred of them. The Stormbringers nickname is meh, not everything does need a nickname in ASOIAF and just having them called "Stannis's men" or "The Antler Men" works just fine, especially since the latter has some basis in canon and it works if they have antler helms or banners. Personally I'd just treat them as a group of well-paid heavy cavalry/infantry that serves House Baratheon of Storm's End, but it's not too unusual to have large numbers of household knights (Kevan Lannister had two hundred in his and I doubt he was super-particular about heritage) so I guess what you'd need to do is slowly build them up while making sure you had enough money to keep them fed and happy.

Regarding all the magical tech improvements.... eh. I couldn't be convinced in any reality that someone could remember all those bits and bobs, even in fragments as you've depicted here. Granted it's an SI and SI fics are basically wish-fulfillment from a certain character perspective, but I've just never bought that straight up.

Regarding Betsy the Seamstress and her reward. She could be young and unmarried, and a potential candidate to marry a household knight. If married with kids, you can promise to take her children into your household as squires/ladies in waiting.

Regarding ports. No, no, no. Storm's End works as a port because of how fuck-off massive and sturdy it is, but the seas are called Shipbreakers Bay for a reason. Any ports you build will have to compete with Storm's End (yours) and be on your own land, or compete with others like Weeping Town (Dornish Sea) and cost you an arm and a leg and not have total control. I'd focus more on strengthening the Stormlands and making use of your limited wealth and numbers (see Sweden under Charles the Great in regards to this) rather than dreams of port wealth.

Regarding danger. I'm not sure why you're expecting danger right away. There's the possibility that Varys is in court yes, and Tywin is a dangerous fellow always, but unless you're planning on delving right into the intrigue you as an SI have no skills at, then I'm not quite sure what you're so on guard about. As is, this has been relatively contained in changes outside of the Stormlands (Stannis's Tyrell wedding hasn't happened yet after all), so things should be going as planned so far.

Most of the concerns you have will be addressed instory, especially the folly of building more ports, but I'll touch on a few. Stabby's first contact with this world, that he knows as a legit deathtrap, was being plopped down in the middle of siege. He still sees danger everywhere, which may or may not spell for bad things to come.

On the other note though; these half remembered things are something that aren't exactly super high tech. My own mild tendencies to read history books alone would have filled in half the blanks. Stabby isn't going to tech up the world to the twentieth century but a few adjustments, and more than a little bit wish fulfillment as this is an SI, are hopefully easily handwaved into the story.
 
Have you considered making grenades?

Blackpowder should be fairly easy for you to remember, even if you have to look for the best ratio. Guns will be too hard until you really kick off the industrial revolution, but making a smallish container, then filling it with metal scraps (and obsidian!) and blackpowder, you get a fairly effective, but cheap weapon. You can even tie it to mini-catapults for a primitive mortar that was in use even in WW1.


The sheep in the Stormlands are also gonna make you fairly rich if you can get a textil industry set up. AFAIK, that was what fueled Englands growth into the British Empire.


More boring and longterm concepts would be to teach basic genetics for selective breeding of animals and crops as well as writing a Big Book of Logistics. Said book should really hammer on hygiene in the camp, as diseases were the No.1 killer. And it's so easy to prevent, too.

As a side benefit, you can apply it to your population as well an enjoy a stronger manpower base when the time comes.

Hm, this is a good idea and all, except, you know, it's already been done in another Game of Thrones SI fic. This one.
 
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A little over an hour later I felt much better as I was summoned by Jon Arryn. The Hand of the King wanted me to come see him in his shiny tower. His small pageboy, I really should inquire into his name later, assured me he'd wait around for me as I got dressed. This only after I, loudly and perhaps slightly too curtly, told him that I didn't need his help putting on pants. I took a few minutes to finish getting dressed and followed the lad over to the Tower of the Hand.

We walked passed Ser Jaime, I nodded at him, and the man bit out, "Are you going to throw another sword at me, Lord Stannis?"

I couldn't contain my sort, "Nah, not today, Ser Jaime. Perhaps I'll come looking for you later."

I probably shouldn't poke at one of the most, personally, dangerous men in Westeros but I couldn't help it. The man was just too pretty and I wasn't taking it very well. I shook off my shameful thoughts when I reached the Hand's Office and was told by the page I could walk right in.

"Ah, Lord Stannis. I wanted to come see you but you've been locked in with Robert all night."

I tried to muster a smile but probably didn't succeed all that well.

"I see that he's kept you...busy." The Old Falcon shrugged and said, "Fair enough, you've been separated for quite a while."

"It was quite something indeed. Where does Robert keep all that drink?"

Jon's eyes glittered with mirth when he replied, "Our august King has many talents, Stannis."

Which was probably polite for; a drunkard on the throne isn't the worst thing in the world. Perhaps I was being too uncharitable. Either way...I was curious why the man called for me.

Lord Arryn cleared his throat and said, "I called for you, my boy, because I'd like to go over a few concerns with you."

Was I his boy now? Was this a transparent ploy or did Arryn really think that because he raised Robert he has a claim, however small, on me? Should I just smile and politely move along?

Or was he trying to infantilize me?

I was too hungover for this shit.

The Lord Hand continued, "Your accomplishments were impressive enough, Stannis but there were some concerns that your measures have not gone far enough."

Oh.

Was this bad or good?

"Don't look so worried, my boy. It was nothing we couldn't fix. We've had contact with Highgarden via raven and hammered out some additional terms. Getting the Tyrells a stake in the stability of the kingdom was well done, Stannis. Leaving them their Lord Paramount-ship was to be expected but we arranged for you to carry the responsibilities of Warden of the South."

Oh, shit. I read that but the implications didn't hit me properly. That was...traditionally a Tyrell position.

I just nodded but some of my confusion must have leaked through as Arryn elaborated, "The Warden of the South is responsible for maintaining order in the Soutern most realms, Stannis. In times of peace the Princes of Dorne, the Lords of the Reach and the Lords of the Stormlands can all call on you to arbitrate their grievances. In times of war you ensure our southernmost coast lines are secure from foreign invasion."

The man stared at me pointedly, "In civil wars the title means virtually nothing."

That...made a lot of sense.

"Alright, I'll have more questions later, my Lord Arryn. Was there something else as well?"

The old man smiled widely and replied, "Oh, do call me Jon. And you're right. There are some other issues. Robert was...most put out when he heard of the attempt on Renly's life. I tried to sway him from this course but he seems rather set."

Oh, god. What was coming now?

The Old Falcon got up, moved to the large but slightly damaged map of Westeros on the wall, and gestured for me to follow him. I got up, braved the slight dizziness, and attempted to focus on where he pointed.

"Robert feels the Reach, if not the Tyrells personally, should be somewhat diminished. He intends to annex a significant portion of Silver Hill – he pointed to an area bordering on the Crownlands and my own Stormlands -, to the Crownlands cutting straight through to the Stoney Sept in the Westerlands."

Oh, auch. That might cause some discontent but I'm sure Arryn could handle it. The Crownlands would fall, de facto, to the man to rule. Unfortunately for him I imagined that ruling the factitious, with rather mixed loyaties, lot would be rather like herding cats. I deliberately didn't share that opinion.

"Alright, an expanded Crownlands..."

I trailed off. Hopefully he'd pick up on my curiousity.

"Robert also wants large portions of the Grassy Vale and Tumbleton. He's most insistent that he requires the manpower of that area."

Wait! Tumbleton was mine. One of my only profitable, and highly productive – considering it's pretty much the same type of super fertile lands as the in the Reach-, patches of arable land. This was a rather fucking big kick in the nuts. I clamped down on my dismay and waited for Jon to continue.

"He's also rather, single mindlessly I'd say, attached to the notion that we can deny the Reach these manpower, and resource, rich areas. Robert proposes we cut two thirds of the Ashford, the other half of the Grassy Vale, and a significant slice of Blackhaven and add them all to the Stormlands."

Shit, shit and crap. I couldn't tell if I was benefiting from this. And I was far too hungover to properly consider this. Either way...I needed to respond somehow. How the fuck was I supposed to rule these people?

"Won't the Tyrells be pushed too hard if we do this?"

The Old Falcon smiled a soft little grin, "Highgarden is of the opinion it's vassals require an abject message." A beat passed, "It means they know this is the price and they're saving face. It's a done deal, Stannis. As much I'd like otherwise. Besides, they are keenly aware that little half-Tyrells will soon enough rule those lands going to you."

Arryn laughed abruptly and said, "And of course you'll have to marry one of the two Tyrell ladies as soon as possible. Mace is sending them to Robert's Court as soon as possible. I hear their mother is coming along as well." The man had a dangerously sharp smirk on his face, "I'd like to be there when you meet them all."

My head was still spinning but I was coherent enough to be greedy. Trying to make light of me, old man.

"Two things."

One, which I already wanted to ask for, and another to make my first concern look petty and easily given. I wanted to squeeze gold and men out of the Crown. Especially since I'd have to give up Tumbleton.

Arryn raised a single eyebrow and bade me to continue, "I want several key rights, and charters, for exploiting the King's Wood."

Arryn simply nodded and I mildly panicked. Crap, he didn't blink at all. I shook my mind clear of distraction and tried to reach for more. I continued, "And I want royal assistance with building several roads and fixing up my castle." I slightly narrowed my eyes, "Especially now you've made it more difficult for me to the move to the Reach from Storm's End and of course all the damage these same Reachmen inflicted upon it."

The Old Falcon only smiled and I had daydreams of my revived Storm's End Port.

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Feedback and commentary is appreciated.

For those of us not familiar with the setting details. What exactly happened here?
 
Ah, drama and politic, the meat and bones of Game of Thrones. I really hope this will finally kick this fic into high gears. I mean, sure, the siege of Storm's End is entertaining and all, but the SI's interactions with canon character still sound deliciously more interesting for me personally.
 
Democracy is fine, if the culture is ready for it. If it isn't, bad shit happens. (Reign of Terror anyone?)
The Reign of Terror was ugly by modern standards, but it served a valuable political purpose. After a thousand-plus years of monarchy, every noble and their mother could trace a claim to the crown if they looked back far enough. A royalist uprising, and there were royalist counterrevolution attempts throughout the 1790s, many of which were supported by foreign powers, can't exactly rally around a pretender if all known pretenders are dead. Compare to the Targaryen purge in canon ASOIAF and the use of assassination as an anti-pretender tactic in CK2.

In a way, the Reign of Terror's only two failures were a) when it failed to capture the main who would become Louis XVIII, and b) when mission creep + paranoia set in and the Committee of Public Safety turned its sights on itself, other dissenting revolutionaries, moderate liberals who just happened to be nobles, apolitical nobles who were more interested in arts or sciences,* etc.

*(Edit: Apparently Lavoisier was not apolitical, but he did try to get out of politics when it became apparent that his side was losing and was posthumously exonerated within two years. They apologized to his widow and everything.)



Also note that a similar process happened organically during the American revolution. Much of Ontario, the Maritimes, and other English colonies were settled by loyalists whom Patriots often literally chased out of their hometowns.
 
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I'm pretty sure Tumbleton was never part of the Stormlands. It's on the Mander in the Reach.

Also, great chapter and awesome to get 2 in a single day.
 
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Alright I've been informed I got some of the areas wrong. I'll change it later to reflect Stabby getting slightly screwed by a canny Jon.
 
So in other words while Stannis was drunk/hung over he got fucked over by Jon Aryn. Jon could have at least bought him a dinner. The lost of income from those fertile lands will hurt. Almost as much as the bullshit he stuck on Stannis making him warden of the south.

Really rabby you gouge that treasure for all it is worth.
 
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Chapter 1.05
283 AC – King's Landing: the Vipers Nest

The Red Keep was just as imposing as I, vaguely, recalled it was. Priceless pieces of decorations lined every wall. Great tapestries every you looked and the dragon motif was something you couldn't get away from. I'd left my men, put Orys in charge of them, and sent them off to find succor with the Red Keep's guards. I sincerely doubted anyone would give them a hard time.

Renly, Maester Cressen, and myself were taken by some nameless servant straight to Robert. I didn't forget his name out of some sort of deranged noble pride but I'd been too busy gawking at the decorations to pay any attention to him. Soon we'd walked over Robert's private chambers and found Ser Jaime Lannister on the guarding the massive doors.

As I didn't particularly want to deal with the man I mildly smiled at him, unbuckled my sword and threw it over at him a little too high, and watched him fumble the catch. With him distracted I didn't bother slowing down and walked through the doors without so much as a knock. The outer private rooms of the King were just as magnificent as the rest of the Red Keep. All opulence, decadence and more than a little bit of haughty posturing.

Robert was, oddly enough alone, and turned around at the sound of us barging through his doors. Renly did just as instructed and ran straight into Robert. The big burly man was, if at all possible, even bigger than Stannis remembered. Startling, but currently rather shocked, blue eyes were framed by dark Baratheon locks of hair. My brother had a massive frame, all around, and I couldn't help but think how out of place he looked with a small child hanging on to him.

"Robert!"

"Ah, there's the little bugger. I hear Stannis took good care of you."

"Yes! He's sometimes tough but he's the best!"

"Oh, is he now!", and then Renly screamed in delight as Robert swung him around for a few moments before the giant turned his attention to me.

"There you are, Stannis!"

"Good morning, Robert."

He looked a little past me and continued, "And you brought Maester Cressen! You're a sight for sore eyes, old man! Come here!"

I nodded at Robert and stood aside for Cressen. The man stammered out a reply but even Robert was hardhearted enough make the man who taught him how to read kneel for him. From what Stannis recalls...that took quite some doing.

"Sit, sit, all of you."

We gathered around one his hardwood tabled, sat down in delightfully comfortable chairs, and suffered some loss of hearing when Robert loudly yelled for wine. Not to be outdone I added my own touch to the order.

"And beer! Whoever Robert is yelling to! Lots and lots of beer!"

So far so good. The first few minutes were slightly tense with Robert asking questions and demanding answers. Especially concerning bits that I'd rather not have dragged up. Cressen heroically managed to distract him for a little while reminiscing on the past but eventually Robert turned back to me.

"So this business with you capturing Mace, Stannis. I've heard they story, lets hear yours!"

I was keenly aware of all three's intent gazing at me as I cleared my throat, "Do you want to hear what really happened? Or what I'll make sure the realm hears all about?"

Robert looked at me funny but snorted before he said, "Lets have both."

I nodded at the burly man and said, "Alright. We were starving, almost ran out of rats to eat, so I fabricated a situation where I could grab the Fat Flower."

I smiled a little wider when I continued, "I thought I could make his men send me supplies if they didn't want their Lord to starve along side us."

The King looked a little apprehensive, perhaps even a touch sympathetic, so I barreled through, "It didn't work out that way. I made a distraction happen, threw a net over Mace, and dragged him behind my horse."

Now Robert just laughed, and laughed, with even Cressen having a small smile on his face.

"Oh, what a sight that must have been."

I frowned a little bit before I replied, "One his men reacted quickly and cut the line dragging Mace. So I had to turn my horse around and charge his would-be rescuers." For dramatic purpose I fell silent for a few heartbeats, "I was outnumbered but I kept them off the Fat Flower long enough for my men to counter charge and my artillery to disperse the Tyrell guards."

The word came out before I consciously considered it.

"Artillery?"

Oh, crap.

I just smiled wider, "A nickname, never mind it. I'm talking about the massively oversized-." What was the word they used for ballistae again? Oh yeah, "-scorpions I placed over the gates and the on the walls."

"What kind of shite nickname is that?"

I simply shrugged.

"Whats the other fancy interpretation of yours then?"

This is it.

"Dirty, dirty treason from the Hightowers. It was all a ploy you see... to leave their Lord Paramount, with his litter of half Hightower children, to the not so tender mercies of starving Stormlords."

This got the big burly King laughing again. I sent off a silent prayer to whatever deity was in my corner and waited for Robert to make another move.

Another loud snort, "A likely story, Stannis."

I shrugged again, "Then why did the Hightowers throw Tyrell levy after Tyrell levy at our walls? The dead stacked up high beneath the heavy walls of Storm's End, brother, but only after we took Mace."

I flashed my eyebrows at him, raising them up and down twice, before continuing, "Curiously they stopped attacking right after we sallied out and grabbed ourselves a handful of their precious Hightower lordlings."

Maybe it was just me but I still found that hilarious. I started laughing on my own but soon my drinking buddies, even little Renly – you can't exactly call Robert a beacon of responsibility -, joined in and I didn't feel so weird. After another few moments the King told Cressen to set up somewhere, and find Renly his own rooms, and I decided not to mentioned I'd prefer to keep the little bugger close. There weren't any real threats out against and maybe I was growing paranoid but this is King's Landing. Once they left Robert brought out, or more correctly yelled for more booze, and we started drinking in earnest.

In a booming voice Robert bit out, "You can't be serious, Stannis! Match me drink for drink! You look like you'll collapse if I poke you too hard!"

Wow, way to be sensitive to the brother who starved himself for you. God damn, it was getting clearer and clearer that I would have to do a lot of swallowing my feelings. I kept the dismay clear from my expression and just flatly stared at him.

I shrugged and said, "Less talk, more drink, big man. We'll see who passes out under the table, first."

Another loud booming laugh before he replied, "Good gods, Stannis. Time was that you would have puckered up and nursed your wounded pride. You always were a little prickly."

Again I shrugged, it felt like I was doing nothing but, and bit out, "I grew out of it, I guess. Somewhere around the time I learned something important about myself."

Robert took a deep fucking gulp, I matched him with an equally deep sip of beer, and he said, "What would that be?"

I waited deliberately for him to take another deep gulp before I replied, "That I'm apparently really fucking good at killing."

I was well rewarded. Robert snorted loudly, wine sprayed around everywhere, and the man started hiccuping as he attempted to laugh. The rest of the night went pretty well, from what I can vaguely remember, and I thought that things might just all work out in the end. We swapped war stories, where I acted remarkably impressed by his victories, and Robert in turn grudgingly admitted that turning away sixty thousand men wasn't all that bad.

Good times.

283 AC – King's Landing: the Vipers Nest

The next morning I woke up, with my sword on my chest, in an utterly luxurious room. My head felt like it was on the verge of exploding and I really only had myself to blame. And Robert. Him I blamed out of sheer spite. I took a long moment to compose myself, shuffled over to the door and stuck my head out, and yelled for someone to attend to me.

Normally I'm not this entitled but I felt like I was wading through exceptionally thick mud while my face was stuffed with cotton. Everything was muted, or the opposite whenever my hangover felt like fucking with me, and I desperately gulped down the water next to my bed. I shouldn't have mixed beer and wine.

Two knocks at the door.

"Come in."

A serving lady appeared and asked me what I wanted.

"Some hair of the dog, women. And eggs."

I tried to fall back asleep but the serving lady didn't leave my room, "I'm sorry, m'lord, but do you want me to shave a dog for you?"

What? Didn't they have that saying here?

I mumbled, "Just get me a flagon of wine, girl. And hurry it along."

A little over an hour later I felt much better as I was summoned by Jon Arryn. The Hand of the King wanted me to come see him in his shiny tower. His small pageboy, I really should inquire into his name later, assured me he'd wait around for me as I got dressed. This only after I, loudly and perhaps slightly too curtly, told him that I didn't need his help putting on pants. I took a few minutes to finish getting dressed and followed the lad over to the Tower of the Hand.

We walked passed Ser Jaime, I nodded at him, and the man bit out, "Are you going to throw another sword at me, Lord Stannis?"

I couldn't contain my sort, "Nah, not today, Ser Jaime. Perhaps I'll come looking for you later."

I probably shouldn't poke at one of the most, personally, dangerous men in Westeros but I couldn't help it. The man was just too pretty and I wasn't taking it very well. I shook off my shameful thoughts when I reached the Hand's Office and was told by the page I could walk right in.

"Ah, Lord Stannis. I wanted to come see you but you've been locked in with Robert all night."

I tried to muster a smile but probably didn't succeed all that well.

"I see that he's kept you...busy." The Old Falcon shrugged and said, "Fair enough, you've been separated for quite a while."

"It was quite something indeed. Where does Robert keep all that drink?"

Jon's eyes glittered with mirth when he replied, "Our august King has many talents, Stannis."

Which was probably polite for; a drunkard on the throne isn't the worst thing in the world. Perhaps I was being too uncharitable. Either way...I was curious why the man called for me.

Lord Arryn cleared his throat and said, "I called for you, my boy, because I'd like to go over a few concerns with you."

Was I his boy now? Was this a transparent ploy or did Arryn really think that because he raised Robert he has a claim, however small, on me? Should I just smile and politely move along?

Or was he trying to infantilize me?

I was too hungover for this shit.

The Lord Hand continued, "Your accomplishments were impressive enough, Stannis but there were some concerns that your measures have not gone far enough."

Oh.

Was this bad or good?

"Don't look so worried, my boy. It was nothing we couldn't fix. We've had contact with Highgarden via raven and hammered out some additional terms. Getting the Tyrells a stake in the stability of the kingdom was well done, Stannis. Leaving them their Lord Paramount-ship was to be expected but we arranged for you to carry the responsibilities of Warden of the South."

Oh, shit. I read that but the implications didn't hit me properly. That was...traditionally a Tyrell position.

I just nodded but some of my confusion must have leaked through as Arryn elaborated, "The Warden of the South is responsible for maintaining order in the Soutern most realms, Stannis. In times of peace the Princes of Dorne, the Lords of the Reach and the Lords of the Stormlands can all call on you to arbitrate their grievances. In times of war you ensure our southernmost coast lines are secure from foreign invasion."

The man stared at me pointedly, "In civil wars the title means virtually nothing."

That...made a lot of sense.

"Alright, I'll have more questions later, my Lord Arryn. Was there something else as well?"

The old man smiled widely and replied, "Oh, do call me Jon. And you're right. There are some other issues. Robert was...most put out when he heard of the attempt on Renly's life. I tried to sway him from this course but he seems rather set."

Oh, god. What was coming now?

The Old Falcon got up, moved to the large but slightly damaged map of Westeros on the wall, and gestured for me to follow him. I got up, braved the slight dizziness, and attempted to focus on where he pointed.

"Robert feels the Reach, if not the Tyrells personally, should be somewhat diminished. He intends to annex several key Reach territories that would be brought over under Crownland authority. Starting from the very lowest point off to Silverhill down to just off Fawnton will be loudly, and insistently, asked to come swear fealty in King's Landing. While I thought that would have been harsh enough Robert insisted you should be allowed a piece of the proverbial...spoils."

Was it my hangover talking or did this sound really good.

Arryn coughed and drew a line on the map. I struggled to contain my rush euphoria and it's company dizzying nausea. He was giving me a spectacularslice of the Reach. The area starting from just under Bitterbridge, containing Longtable, Grassy Vale, and Ashford. Oddly Jon drew the line at Cider Hall which would remain firmly in the Reach. It stood across the point where two rivers met and was thus the largest city in that entire area.

Huh.

Something was off here but I couldn't twig to it.

Slightly warily I asked, "That sounds like a...great deal of annexxing."

Jon raised an eyebrow, "Are you implying you're not up to this?"

God damn it. He's pushing my buttons. I know he's pushing my buttons but its still working. I tried to focus on the issue. Arryn was fusing a large section of the Reach, around a fifth if I guessed right, on to the Crownlands and my own Stormlands. He seems oddly insistent I take up this vast bounty.

What am I missing?

All I could think to do was push back.

I narrowed my eyes at him, a stab of pain lanced through my mind, and I bit out, "I want full rights to exploit the King's Wood."

Now Jon narrowed his eyes as well, "Son, you're already getting a lot. You may be His Grace's brother but you can't have everything you desire."

I stayed quiet, for a given value of quiet with the ruckus in my head, waiting him out. I walked back to the chair, picked up a glass of water on the way, and slowly sipped from it. From the corner of my eye I could feel Arryn staring at me but I paid him no mind.

Either something was happening or I was being paranoid and looking an exceptionally valuable gift horse in the mouth. If he bends now I'm definitely right though. There's some fuckery afoot.

Or...

I'm being an ungrateful little shit. Eh, I'll blame it on the hangover. Moments stretched long before Arryn sighed deeply, "Fine, Lord Stannis. You've insisted on pushing an old man around. Congratulations. I'm sure you're making Robert all kinds of proud."

What.

He broke.

No. This was Jon Arryn. The man who glued Westeros back together. I was right. I'm being fucked and I can't see how. I caught Jon's gaze and stared intently at the man. I could perceive...nothing.

Crap.

Fuck this, lets try another push. What's he gonna do me, realistically, if I overstep my bounds?

I narrowed my eyes at the old man, suffered through another streak of pain but bravely surpressed the flinch, and softly said, "And I want Royal assistance to tie these new communities together with roads." He wasn't growing red, didn't flinch, and gave pretty much nothing away in the heartbeat I fell silent. I immediately continued, "And of course funds for repairing Storm's End for the damage done by the Flowers."

Ah, there was a tick.

All this and I still didn't know what was happening. I needed to get out. I didn't wait for a reply, downed the rest of the water, and walked out of the room.

Arryn didn't call me back.

Yep, I was somehow getting fucked.

Welcome to King's Landing. Here...have an obviously poisoned gift you're too stupid to refuse.

AN:
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