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Of Winding Ways and Cunning Devices

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While Love sounds enticing for the character plot, it's a little too sudden right now. It's not outlandish to have met a love interest, but I can't see it as the main motivation for the character as it is.
 
[X] Duty, this is your ship, these are your people, you will not surrender then while you yet live, even to the ruin of the world (Gain Increased Crew Quality and Loyalty)
 
[X] Pride, if you are to perish than you will meet whatever the Fate of Men is on your feet and not on your belly as you had been before Sauron that day (Haughty becomes Unflinching Pride: You have looked unblinking into the breaking of the world and all who look upon you can see it in your gaze +2 Diplomacy +3 Intrigue +20 to any rolls to resist persuasion or manipulation)
 
rx915 said:
Sauron didn't anticipate Eru would drown Numenor where he dwelled did he?
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No he didn't. He expected the Valar to crush the Numenorean but since the Valar can't harm men(Sauron doesn't know this) Eru had to take matters into his own hands and the event very much surprised him. His physical form ends bring destroyed after all.
 
[X] Love, perhaps you are a fool, perhaps you are a madman, but you have found the woman you love above all others and though there is now no home, no rolling hills by the sea to show her you will not see her drown before you (Gain Trait Betrothed: Eriol has found lady who agreed to wed him in spite of his eccentricities and they are in love).
Is there a chance for this woman to be on our ship, just not being our lover?
 
Kornet said:
Btw, am I reading too much into this, or are we considered righteous enough (despite our guldur leanings) to receive divine warning-visions?
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You were definitely getting warnings, but it should be noted so was the entirety of Numenor. Clouds do not usually look like eagles and apocalyptic hailstorms that nonetheless do not hurt anyone are statistically improbable.
 
jaoshik said:
[X] Love, perhaps you are a fool, perhaps you are a madman, but you have found the woman you love above all others and though there is now no home, no rolling hills by the sea to show her you will not see her drown before you (Gain Trait Betrothed: Eriol has found lady who agreed to wed him in spite of his eccentricities and they are in love).
Is there a chance for this woman to be on our ship, just not being our lover?
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I mean yes she will be on your ship, otherwise there would not be much point of introducing her. Eriol will in this case be taking her to see his home.
 
Kornet said:
Btw, am I reading too much into this, or are we considered righteous enough (despite our guldur leanings) to receive divine warning-visions?
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That's the gift of foresight that select Numenoreans/Men/Elves have. Eriol being a wizard and having had conversations with the Elves likely was maybe subconsciously anticipating the Doom. The Drúedain another people who had foresight left the island a thousand years ago because they got bad vibes way back then lol.

But even without dreams and visions the Numenoreans have had many warnings lol. Lightning striking the temple of Melkor, perosnal emissaries from the Valar with warnings. "Happiness" of the island seems to have diminished, and in general the weather and atmosphere of the world prior to the Invasion and fall of numenor was turbulent.
 
[X] Duty, this is your ship, these are your people, you will not surrender then while you yet live, even to the ruin of the world (Gain Increased Crew Quality and Loyalty)
 
What I'm curious about pride is if it would act like a lightning rod to tell the smiter there's someone there worth sparing like a Sodom and Gomorrah moment or Noah's Ark.
 
[X] Pride, if you are to perish than you will meet whatever the Fate of Men is on your feet and not on your belly as you had been before Sauron that day (Haughty becomes Unflinching Pride: You have looked unblinking into the breaking of the world and all who look upon you can see it in your gaze +2 Diplomacy +3 Intrigue +20 to any rolls to resist persuasion or manipulation)
 
[X] Pride, if you are to perish than you will meet whatever the Fate of Men is on your feet and not on your belly as you had been before Sauron that day (Haughty becomes Unflinching Pride: You have looked unblinking into the breaking of the world and all who look upon you can see it in your gaze +2 Diplomacy +3 Intrigue +20 to any rolls to resist persuasion or manipulation)
 
rx915 said:
What I'm curious about pride is if it would act like a lightning rod to tell the smiter there's someone there worth sparing like a Sodom and Gomorrah moment or Noah's Ark.
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Well the funny thing about the Pride option is that it's Eriol going full circle from Valar/Eru skeptic to Sauron admirer to Sauron skeptic to inadvertently being a in effect faithfull because he's not afraid of death.
 
Hoppylo said:
Well the funny thing about the Pride option is that it's Eriol going full circle from Valar/Eru skeptic to Sauron admirer to Sauron skeptic to inadvertently being a in effect faithfull because he's not afraid of death.
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I'm also reminded of the flying dutchman if Eriol showing his presence means he gets a response in turn.
 
[X] Pride, if you are to perish than you will meet whatever the Fate of Men is on your feet and not on your belly as you had been before Sauron that day (Haughty becomes Unflinching Pride: You have looked unblinking into the breaking of the world and all who look upon you can see it in your gaze +2 Diplomacy +3 Intrigue +20 to any rolls to resist persuasion or manipulation)
 
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