Well, even if the US population went down from 300 to 225 million, the amerindian population didn't really get bigger proportionally. They'd go from 0.9% of the population to more than 1%. :p
In addition to what's been said elsewhere, the population of the NAN is far from 100% native descended. At their founding, they were extremely flexible with allowing people who could claim 1/32 or less native heritage to count as native enough to stay. Plus, most of the tribes were ok with completely non native groups willing to say 'I for one welcome out new amerindian overlords' and chose to assimilate culturally.
 
Okay, so this is my "specifics of Shadowrun" knowledge running short...
Are you guys being 100% serious in that you think Cap and Red Skull would actually work together against these guys? (We of course assume Schmidt will still make backstab plans, but for the purposes of "while they're around" would be pretty much working smoothly with Steve.)
Yes. They really are that bad. This is not hyperbole.
OR!!!

We Speechify them until they're so ashamed of destroying the American Dream they sign up with us willingly, and both the UCAS and CAS willingly join together.

Because They Can Be Better!
I'm not holding my breathe on that notion. Any kind of reunification is going to require military force at some point, even if only to defend against people who want to prevent the return of the last global super power. And it will be more then that.
 
I remember you telling us before you were getting ready to do it. She's been in suspense this whole time? The poor girl. I'm imagining all those super over excited puppies and kittens that keel over from excitement now.
Poor girl indeed. I left her in suspense because if I didn't she'd be jumping at every chance that I had to propose in the last few months. I do want to surprise her after all. Also the ring I'm getting is a custom work that I got commissioned just for her. It cost quite a few pretty pennies, but my wallet should be fine by January assuming I spend a bit less money on non-essential things, like rent, than usual.

...crap, Christmas is coming. D:

Welp my wallet should be fine by June in that case. Urk. >_>

I got a few questions for you if you don't mind me asking.

1. How would have a Warhammer 40k crossover would've gone if you did it? Say, Cap gets discovered by Merica towards the end of the Unification Wars? How would the Emperor react to seeing a living relic from the 2nd millennium? That could have been cool but I assumed you didn't include them on purpose.
2. How would have the bonus hydra/proto-Stark tech affect the tech progression of the various settings (including my first question)? More importantly, how would it have affected Shadowrun?
1- Cap would not meet the Emperor. The prologue would be him awakening at the height of the Dark Age of Tech and go until the height of the Age of Strife, in which he becomes the proto-Emperor. Once he goes full Emperor route, he'd start putting together plans for the Unification Wars and then full on ascend. Yes, Steve would be a psyker, and yes the serum made that into peak human potential too, hence the absolute bullshit level of power he'd have as the Emperor. :V

2- Maybe I'll do a write-up of this later. This is a big topic. As for SR, that'll ruin the surprise! ;)

@torrmercury Can we expect any of the other marvel superheroes and villains to show up?
Yes.

Oh and @torrmercury I'm curious how MCU would have gone down with the changes in the timeline. Could you please talk about that? :)
I'll do a write-up of this later.

@torrmercury

What is the immediate effect of us choosing the canon option for the HYDRA base assault?
Won't answer. This will be addressed later on. :)

The fact the @torrmercury said we can do it at all is why I'm bothering with the idea. I think our stats help, although we're really at the top-tier of unaugmented humans (not counting other metahumans) . Peak human stats are at 8 in this system (avg 4), and they're 6 in Shadowrun 5E (avg 3-4). So the stat ranges for SR5 have to be adjusted by +33.33% to this system.

I'm pretty sure 10 is the max a peak human can have with augmentations, which converts to 13. An augmented peak Troll could theoretically have 18 strength.

So we can be outperformed physically, and that's not counting non-humans. Or non-humans with the supersoldier serum and augmentations. :X Though I think the serum just makes you reach peak potential?

I know the QM originally said the stats go up to 11, but that doesn't take how crazy metahumans can be optimized into account.
Possibly? I don't know how the MCU Hulk fairs against a top of the line/minmaxed cybertroll.
So my system has 11 as the absolute max a stat can go. Peak human is 8, but peak min/max aug troll is 10. 11 is reserved for beings with truly godlike stats. The Hulk qualifies for that in Strength, as do the Great Dragons.

Shadowrun? I'm not familiar with the setting at all.
Well, Steve won't have any clue what's going on either. You'll be discovering it just as he is!

I'm super not excited about the crossover, but Tor is a good enough writer to at least give the first update or two in it a shot.
Thank you. <3 <4

Are you guys being 100% serious in that you think Cap and Red Skull would actually work together against these guys? (We of course assume Schmidt will still make backstab plans, but for the purposes of "while they're around" would be pretty much working smoothly with Steve.)
Considering that Aztechnology originated as South American drug cartels banding together to make a corporation and then proceeded to get drunk on magic, and then took so much LSD that their brains were permanently damaged from it but replace LSD with the power that comes with being able to control so much of the world... You start to get the picture.
 
Okay, so this is my "specifics of Shadowrun" knowledge running short...
Are you guys being 100% serious in that you think Cap and Red Skull would actually work together against these guys? (We of course assume Schmidt will still make backstab plans, but for the purposes of "while they're around" would be pretty much working smoothly with Steve.)
Yes, absolutely. There's an unspoken rule amongst Shadowrunners: "Don't ever, EVER, mess with Aztechnology!" And there are many Shadowrunners who'd do anything as long as the pay is right, but they still follow this rule. Exceptions are really rare and specific.
 
It well be interesting to see a Shadowrun raised Stark, who presumably will have a Stark corp and all that entails. I expect this Stark corp never stopped manufacturing weapons. The other Avengers will also have to have backgrounds altered, maybe a Hulk that was a corp scientist involved in an experiment that went wrong?
 
Won't answer. This will be addressed later on. :)

Yeah, I thought that would be the response.

Anywho, I was wondering if you could answer how Dr. Strange would fit into the SR setting?

While the movie is coming out in a couple of weeks, the trailers and lead up to it have seemed to indicate that the magic Steven Strange uses is of a different scale than that of SR.
 
Yeah, I thought that would be the response.

Anywho, I was wondering if you could answer how Dr. Strange would fit into the SR setting?

While the movie is coming out in a couple of weeks, the trailers and lead up to it have seemed to indicate that the magic Steven Strange uses is of a different scale than that of SR.
Well, Earth hasn't been eaten by Dormammu yet, so he's probably just fine. :p
 
As (i think) the resident German, I will be unhappy with The Skull operating from the AGL.
Soley from there, i mean.
my candidates for his new best buddies are WINTERNACHT, the Azzies or .... well, HYDRA.
 
Okay, so this is my "specifics of Shadowrun" knowledge running short...
Are you guys being 100% serious in that you think Cap and Red Skull would actually work together against these guys? (We of course assume Schmidt will still make backstab plans, but for the purposes of "while they're around" would be pretty much working smoothly with Steve.)

OR!!!

We Speechify them until they're so ashamed of destroying the American Dream they sign up with us willingly, and both the UCAS and CAS willingly join together.

Because They Can Be Better!
They are hypocritical mexican elites (mostly hispanic) claiming to be the legitimate heirs of moctezuma and sacrificing people for magical power while oppressing the indios and just about everyone else thats in their way.
and thats literaally the TOP of the iceberg.
 
There will be a separate magic stat. Cap is not magical, however.

That was to be expected.

How does our shield react to magic in any case? Well, assuming we still have it when we wake up.

Magic seems to be one of the key indications of power in SR, and our shield seems to be our best at defending ourselves from it since we aren't magical ourselves.
 
I don't know much about shadowrun... Its one of those "The world sucks because everyone is an asshole, and if you're not an asshole you'll get killed after having your hopes and dreams crushed and spit on." settings isn't it?

Darn, should have voted then. Got complacent and didn't when it looked like Fallout would win. There better be some serious asskicking and world-fixing going on then. But hey, its the Cap, so as much as I find the setting distasteful I have my hopes up for now.
 
I don't know much about shadowrun... Its one of those "The world sucks because everyone is an asshole, and if you're not an asshole you'll get killed after having your hopes and dreams crushed and spit on." settings isn't it?

Darn, should have voted then. Got complacent and didn't when it looked like Fallout would win. There better be some serious asskicking and world-fixing going on then. But hey, its the Cap, so as much as I find the setting distasteful I have my hopes up for now.
Not...exactly.Happy endings are possible, thete are even some places tnat are NICER places then they are today.
Its just not many and its damn hard.
But if you are , say , living in Czechia?
Or in SOME parts of Germany? You still are living in a reasonably free , democratic society.... mostly.
So, no, its not WH 40k.
Its just hard mode.
 
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As I've mentioned before, SR is an oppressive setting in that no one is really free but everyone is effectively taken care. They are basically corporate slaves, but they have food, entertainment, jobs and security in a world that is pretty fucking crazy.

It's basically real life Earth mixed with cyberpunk and magic and megacorps.
 
As I've mentioned before, SR is an oppressive setting in that no one is really free but everyone is effectively taken care. They are basically corporate slaves, but they have food, entertainment, jobs and security in a world that is pretty fucking crazy.

It's basically real life Earth mixed with cyberpunk and magic and megacorps.
And if your tastes run to the antiauthoritarian and neo-anarchost... there are chances.
 
As I've mentioned before, SR is an oppressive setting in that no one is really free but everyone is effectively taken care. They are basically corporate slaves, but they have food, entertainment, jobs and security in a world that is pretty fucking crazy.

It's basically real life Earth mixed with cyberpunk and magic and megacorps.
In other words, Red Skull's wet dream. As long as he's on the top.
 
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