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Gargulec said:
So, let me suggest something. This is a bit of a joke, but really, I am serious...

[x] Leave it behind.

Let's be honest. A dramatic flashback here, revealing Nemo's past - that'd be some cool shit, no doubt. No doubt Omi would deliver. But here's the thing. You know what would be even more cool? If we were to actually defy the convention. Show that the past, the elaborate back-story, all those things alluded to, all those things buried - they are better when they are unmentioned, entombed and irrelevant. Nemo overcoming her present not by reclaiming some storied past, but just looking forward and shedding her history like she sheds her mask would be an amazing moment of genre-busting. The past is dead, there is no need for this past to be ever dredged up. It is like what Yumichika says about Unohana - the Nemo that was still exists, somewhere in the back of her head, but why invite her in? Why reclaim something that had been purposefully left behind.

The past has no power over Nemo, not if she chooses to throw it off. There is no need to bow to the story, no need to know - better to leap into the unknown future while certain that what is dead should remain so. That if there is a way from the Hollow condition it is not by attempting to make peace with what can never be really set right - because, well, it's in the past - but by moving past it. Choosing not even to forget, but to look forward, not backward. Think about it? How many stories do you know where the backstory is this key to understanding, key to overcoming? As if corpses dragged out from their tombs could speak, as if the only thing that mattered was knowing. Try something else, once, maybe twice. Acknowledge that no matter how important the past was, it is not irrelevant. It is gone. It is a memory that lives only so much as the need to give it strength.

Defy the convention, defy the genre. Say after the poet: Knowledge may have its purposes, but guessing is always more fun than knowing. Allow Nemo to win the battle for her soul by shedding this filthy cloak of history, by freeing herself from the weight of the past, by leaping into the future unburdened and light. In the tomb of Man's hubris, the history is stripped away as the nature reclaims what had once been considered eternal and immutable. There is no need to look back. Leave it to rot, leave the graves untended. Whatever broke Nemo - whatever hurt her, whatever made her who she were - is a shadow and should be acknowledged. The power drawn from this reclamation would be just feeding a cycle where only the return to something former can give forward impetus. Again, I say with almost full seriousness: defy it. Defy necessity. Defy the imposition of the past. Allow the story to remain untold. Draw power from knowing that we will never know and it is better that way.

Try something new.
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[X] Remember.
 
Gargulec said:
So, let me suggest something. This is a bit of a joke, but really, I am serious...

[x] Leave it behind.

Let's be honest. A dramatic flashback here, revealing Nemo's past - that'd be some cool shit, no doubt. No doubt Omi would deliver. But here's the thing. You know what would be even more cool? If we were to actually defy the convention. Show that the past, the elaborate back-story, all those things alluded to, all those things buried - they are better when they are unmentioned, entombed and irrelevant. Nemo overcoming her present not by reclaiming some storied past, but just looking forward and shedding her history like she sheds her mask would be an amazing moment of genre-busting. The past is dead, there is no need for this past to be ever dredged up. It is like what Yumichika says about Unohana - the Nemo that was still exists, somewhere in the back of her head, but why invite her in? Why reclaim something that had been purposefully left behind.

The past has no power over Nemo, not if she chooses to throw it off. There is no need to bow to the story, no need to know - better to leap into the unknown future while certain that what is dead should remain so. That if there is a way from the Hollow condition it is not by attempting to make peace with what can never be really set right - because, well, it's in the past - but by moving past it. Choosing not even to forget, but to look forward, not backward. Think about it? How many stories do you know where the backstory is this key to understanding, key to overcoming? As if corpses dragged out from their tombs could speak, as if the only thing that mattered was knowing. Try something else, once, maybe twice. Acknowledge that no matter how important the past was, it is not irrelevant. It is gone. It is a memory that lives only so much as the need to give it strength.

Defy the convention, defy the genre. Say after the poet: Knowledge may have its purposes, but guessing is always more fun than knowing. Allow Nemo to win the battle for her soul by shedding this filthy cloak of history, by freeing herself from the weight of the past, by leaping into the future unburdened and light. In the tomb of Man's hubris, the history is stripped away as the nature reclaims what had once been considered eternal and immutable. There is no need to look back. Leave it to rot, leave the graves untended. Whatever broke Nemo - whatever hurt her, whatever made her who she were - is a shadow and should be acknowledged. The power drawn from this reclamation would be just feeding a cycle where only the return to something former can give forward impetus. Again, I say with almost full seriousness: defy it. Defy necessity. Defy the imposition of the past. Allow the story to remain untold. Draw power from knowing that we will never know and it is better that way.

Try something new.
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Wow.

That entire train of thought made me nauseous.

Just.

Rejecting, denying history is a vile act. Its to proclaim oneself superior to all that's come before, and to do so blindly. It's an act of stunning, toxic hubris.

So sayeth the visionary, "Ignorance is Strength!" and for all the warning imbued in that statement, how many have found themselves intoxicated by that siren call as to forget that long-past start of wisdom?

The recognition that we all know nothing, and thus have so very much to learn.
 
Gargulec said:
So, let me suggest something. This is a bit of a joke, but really, I am serious...

[x] Leave it behind.

Let's be honest. A dramatic flashback here, revealing Nemo's past - that'd be some cool shit, no doubt. No doubt Omi would deliver. But here's the thing. You know what would be even more cool? If we were to actually defy the convention. Show that the past, the elaborate back-story, all those things alluded to, all those things buried - they are better when they are unmentioned, entombed and irrelevant. Nemo overcoming her present not by reclaiming some storied past, but just looking forward and shedding her history like she sheds her mask would be an amazing moment of genre-busting. The past is dead, there is no need for this past to be ever dredged up. It is like what Yumichika says about Unohana - the Nemo that was still exists, somewhere in the back of her head, but why invite her in? Why reclaim something that had been purposefully left behind.

The past has no power over Nemo, not if she chooses to throw it off. There is no need to bow to the story, no need to know - better to leap into the unknown future while certain that what is dead should remain so. That if there is a way from the Hollow condition it is not by attempting to make peace with what can never be really set right - because, well, it's in the past - but by moving past it. Choosing not even to forget, but to look forward, not backward. Think about it? How many stories do you know where the backstory is this key to understanding, key to overcoming? As if corpses dragged out from their tombs could speak, as if the only thing that mattered was knowing. Try something else, once, maybe twice. Acknowledge that no matter how important the past was, it is not irrelevant. It is gone. It is a memory that lives only so much as the need to give it strength.

Defy the convention, defy the genre. Say after the poet: Knowledge may have its purposes, but guessing is always more fun than knowing. Allow Nemo to win the battle for her soul by shedding this filthy cloak of history, by freeing herself from the weight of the past, by leaping into the future unburdened and light. In the tomb of Man's hubris, the history is stripped away as the nature reclaims what had once been considered eternal and immutable. There is no need to look back. Leave it to rot, leave the graves untended. Whatever broke Nemo - whatever hurt her, whatever made her who she were - is a shadow and should be acknowledged. The power drawn from this reclamation would be just feeding a cycle where only the return to something former can give forward impetus. Again, I say with almost full seriousness: defy it. Defy necessity. Defy the imposition of the past. Allow the story to remain untold. Draw power from knowing that we will never know and it is better that way.

Try something new.
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{XYZ) Stab Yourself In The Heart For Power

:V

( :p )
 
TehChron said:
Wow.

That entire train of thought made me nauseous.

Just.

Rejecting, denying history is a vile act. Its to proclaim oneself superior to all that's come before, and to do so blindly. It's an act of stunning, toxic hubris.

So sayeth the visionary, "Ignorance is Strength!" and for all the warning imbued in that statement, how many have found themselves intoxicated by that siren call as to forget that long-past start of wisdom?

The recognition that we all know nothing, and thus have so very much to learn.
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Or you could not be so insultingly dramatic about people's preferences in stories. Get off your high horse.
 
Kaiya said:
Or you could not be so insultingly dramatic about people's preferences in stories. Get off your high horse.
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Im hardly being insulting by dramatically declaring my opposition to someone elses viewpoint.

And obliquely referencing Orwell and one of the foundations of many schools of thought is hardly being on a high horse. I mean...

"Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it" ring any bells? Or the fact that there is no true originality in fiction, only presentation?

Its not grandstanding when you're right, and I am actually offended by that train of thought, because shit like that justifies people blowing up Buddhist Statues in the name of their faith, or shooting the nose off the Sphinx.

Its an actually vile thing thats caused great harm to humanity. The slaughter of scholars in the wake of the Qin unification, burning of the library of Alexandria, so on and so forth.
 
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[X] Remember.

Come on guys, we can hit two hundred.

I am imagining Nemo's Res activating and first things she hears is a chorus of her souls saying [X] Remember.
 
TehChron said:
Im hardly being insulting by dramatically declaring my opposition to someone elses viewpoint.

And obliquely referencing Orwell and one of the foundations of many schools of thought is hardly being on a high horse. I mean...

"Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it" ring any bells? Or the fact that there is no true originality in fiction, only presentation?

Its not grandstanding when you're right, and I am actually offended by that train of thought, because shit like that justifies people blowing up Buddhist Statues in the name of their faith, or shooting the nose off the Sphinx.

Its an actually vile thing thats caused great harm to humanity. The slaughter of scholars in the wake of the Qin unification, burning of the library of Alexandria, so on and so forth.
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It is grand-standing, and you are wrong, though. You don't get to compare people to terrorists for not agreeing with you about fanfics. Get off your high-horse.
 
Gargulec said:
So, let me suggest something. This is a bit of a joke, but really, I am serious...

[x] Leave it behind.

Let's be honest. A dramatic flashback here, revealing Nemo's past - that'd be some cool shit, no doubt. No doubt Omi would deliver. But here's the thing. You know what would be even more cool? If we were to actually defy the convention. Show that the past, the elaborate back-story, all those things alluded to, all those things buried - they are better when they are unmentioned, entombed and irrelevant. Nemo overcoming her present not by reclaiming some storied past, but just looking forward and shedding her history like she sheds her mask would be an amazing moment of genre-busting. The past is dead, there is no need for this past to be ever dredged up. It is like what Yumichika says about Unohana - the Nemo that was still exists, somewhere in the back of her head, but why invite her in? Why reclaim something that had been purposefully left behind.

The past has no power over Nemo, not if she chooses to throw it off. There is no need to bow to the story, no need to know - better to leap into the unknown future while certain that what is dead should remain so. That if there is a way from the Hollow condition it is not by attempting to make peace with what can never be really set right - because, well, it's in the past - but by moving past it. Choosing not even to forget, but to look forward, not backward. Think about it? How many stories do you know where the backstory is this key to understanding, key to overcoming? As if corpses dragged out from their tombs could speak, as if the only thing that mattered was knowing. Try something else, once, maybe twice. Acknowledge that no matter how important the past was, it is not irrelevant. It is gone. It is a memory that lives only so much as the need to give it strength.

Defy the convention, defy the genre. Say after the poet: Knowledge may have its purposes, but guessing is always more fun than knowing. Allow Nemo to win the battle for her soul by shedding this filthy cloak of history, by freeing herself from the weight of the past, by leaping into the future unburdened and light. In the tomb of Man's hubris, the history is stripped away as the nature reclaims what had once been considered eternal and immutable. There is no need to look back. Leave it to rot, leave the graves untended. Whatever broke Nemo - whatever hurt her, whatever made her who she were - is a shadow and should be acknowledged. The power drawn from this reclamation would be just feeding a cycle where only the return to something former can give forward impetus. Again, I say with almost full seriousness: defy it. Defy necessity. Defy the imposition of the past. Allow the story to remain untold. Draw power from knowing that we will never know and it is better that way.

Try something new.
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Sadly, this fight was lost a bunch of updates ago, when we voted for the Sung-Sun option wrt the past rather than the Jackelton or Lilynette option.

e: I'm not certain I like gainsaying a decision that was already made, although I can at least still see it working with the story with how Braid won. So yeah I'll actually seriously support this for now, cause why not.

[X] Leave it behind.
 
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[X] Remember.

The conspiracy theories about what happened in Chernobyl are going to be great. Nemo is basically throwing around around laser beams all over the place, which are going to leave some distinct marks. It's going to be a bit hard to argue that this was all just a natural disaster.
 
Regarding AU Manga...

Well, the interaction with Ichigo will definitely be in the Manga. But the rest? Doubt it. On the other hand, I can see this as anime filler...
 
Kaiya said:
It is grand-standing, and you are wrong, though. You don't get to compare people to terrorists for not agreeing with you about fanfics. Get off your high-horse.
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Lmao

Neo-Assyrians, then? Chinese, perhaps? What about American settlers or Aztec conquerors (Catholics brought in with the Conquistadors actually did make the effort to preserve those records though so good on them)?

Orwell wasnt a fanfic writer, unless you construe his criticisms of Socialism and Communism as Fanfics of Karl Marx...somehow

Omicron said:
I'm going to put the ixnay on "not wanting to remember a harmful part of your past means you're a Taliban."
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Meh, sure.

My points made though.

Ignorance is bliss, just like any other sufficiently powerful narcotic, and just as damaging besides.
 
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TehChron said:
Lmao

Neo-Assyrians, then? Chinese, perhaps? What about American settlers or Aztec conquerors (Catholics brought in with the Conquistadors actually did make the effort to preserve those records though so good on them)?


Meh, sure.

My points made though.

Ignorance is bliss, just like any other sufficiently powerful narcotic, and just as damaging besides.
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"my point is made so I'm gonna get one last shot in insulting everyone who disagrees with my by comparing them to monsters and drug addicts."

Real classy.
 
Kaiya said:
"my point is made so I'm gonna get one last shot in insulting everyone who disagrees with my by comparing them to monsters and drug addicts."

Real classy.
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At least im explaining why I find a certain point of view damaging by citing examples of it acted upon in real life rather than calling the person I disagree with a piece of shit like you seem to be insisting on doing to me.

Go back to school.

You're the one in need of class.
 
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