Movie Tycoon Quest - Temple Productions (2000-)

[X] Expand Production (Personal) - Your current limit of one film per administrative year is unsatisfactory. While it'll be very expensive, taking on more employees could be a very useful thing. Note: Will allow two movies running at once, and if two movies don't run then a fee of 3 million will be levied for each missing movie. Cannot be taken with Expand Production (Partnership), will lock AA for six months.

[X] Pay Your Taxes (2001) - You owe the taxman for 2001's Fast & Furious film, and you owe him quite a lot. To be precise, you owe them $ 17,314,626.3 dollars. Better pay it up. Note: Free Action, cannot be taken with Avoid Your Taxes.

[X] Fast & Furious Development II (2003) - You've decided to get this show on the road, and have the primary cast locked down as needed. So you just needed to get started on the production, which you've already set up with a budget of 60 million dollars just in case...

[X] Hire Marketing Experts - You're growing at a remarkable rate, but you're still pretty unaware of what revenue streams you could be taking advantage of to further benefit off your films. Maybe you should rectify that? Note: Adds +5 to related rolls.

[X] Visit Robert Rodriguez - Your friend seems to have struck gold with his Spy Kids franchise, but not near as well as you have with Fast & Furious. Going to see him at his Troublemaker Studios in Austin to catch up could be nice, but Robert always has something on his mind or on his plate that you can't help but want to know about.
 
[X] Expand Production (Personal) - Your current limit of one film per administrative year is unsatisfactory. While it'll be very expensive, taking on more employees could be a very useful thing. Note: Will allow two movies running at once, and if two movies don't run then a fee of 3 million will be levied for each missing movie. Cannot be taken with Expand Production (Partnership), will lock AA for six months.

[X] Pay Your Taxes (2001) - You owe the taxman for 2001's Fast & Furious film, and you owe him quite a lot. To be precise, you owe them $ 17,314,626.3 dollars. Better pay it up. Note: Free Action, cannot be taken with Avoid Your Taxes.

[X] Fast & Furious Development II (2003) - You've decided to get this show on the road, and have the primary cast locked down as needed. So you just needed to get started on the production, which you've already set up with a budget of 60 million dollars just in case...

[X] Hire New Legal Team - Your previous Black Lotus-affiliated legal team isn't as up to snuff as you'd like. Bringing in a better firm who can negotiate on behalf of your interests and keep abreast of intellectual properties or opportunities you might be interested in might be helpful. Note: Adds +5 to related rolls.

[X] Visit Robert Rodriguez - Your friend seems to have struck gold with his Spy Kids franchise, but not near as well as you have with Fast & Furious. Going to see him at his Troublemaker Studios in Austin to catch up could be nice, but Robert always has something on his mind or on his plate that you can't help but want to know about.
 
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[] Hire New Legal Team - Your previous Black Lotus-affiliated legal team isn't as up to snuff as you'd like. Bringing in a better firm who can negotiate on behalf of your interests and keep abreast of intellectual properties or opportunities you might be interested in might be helpful. Note: Adds +5 to related rolls.
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[X] Expand Production (Personal) - Your current limit of one film per administrative year is unsatisfactory. While it'll be very expensive, taking on more employees could be a very useful thing. Note: Will allow two movies running at once, and if two movies don't run then a fee of 3 million will be levied for each missing movie. Cannot be taken with Expand Production (Partnership), will lock AA for six months.

[X] Pay Your Taxes (2001) - You owe the taxman for 2001's Fast & Furious film, and you owe him quite a lot. To be precise, you owe them $ 17,314,626.3 dollars. Better pay it up. Note: Free Action, cannot be taken with Avoid Your Taxes.

[X] Fast & Furious Development II (2003) - You've decided to get this show on the road, and have the primary cast locked down as needed. So you just needed to get started on the production, which you've already set up with a budget of 60 million dollars just in case...

[X] Hire Casting Experts - You're growing at a remarkable rate, but you're still pretty unaware of a lot of great young acting talent that you could be making use of in your films. Maybe you should rectify that? Note: Adds +5 to related rolls.

[X] Visit Robert Rodriguez - Your friend seems to have struck gold with his Spy Kids franchise, but not near as well as you have with Fast & Furious. Going to see him at his Troublemaker Studios in Austin to catch up could be nice, but Robert always has something on his mind or on his plate that you can't help but want to know about.
 


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[X] Expand Production (Personal) - Your current limit of one film per administrative year is unsatisfactory. While it'll be very expensive, taking on more employees could be a very useful thing. Note: Will allow two movies running at once, and if two movies don't run then a fee of 3 million will be levied for each missing movie. Cannot be taken with Expand Production (Partnership), will lock AA for six months.
No. of Votes: 23

[X] Pay Your Taxes (2001) - You owe the taxman for 2001's Fast & Furious film, and you owe him quite a lot. To be precise, you owe them $ 17,314,626.3 dollars. Better pay it up. Note: Free Action, cannot be taken with Avoid Your Taxes.
No. of Votes: 23

[X] Visit Robert Rodriguez - Your friend seems to have struck gold with his Spy Kids franchise, but not near as well as you have with Fast & Furious. Going to see him at his Troublemaker Studios in Austin to catch up could be nice, but Robert always has something on his mind or on his plate that you can't help but want to know about.
No. of Votes: 19

[X] Hire Marketing Experts - You're growing at a remarkable rate, but you're still pretty unaware of what revenue streams you could be taking advantage of to further benefit off your films. Maybe you should rectify that? Note: Adds +5 to related rolls.
No. of Votes: 17

[X] Fast & Furious Development II (2003) - You've decided to get this show on the road, and have the primary cast locked down as needed. So you just needed to get started on the production, which you've already set up with a budget of 60 million dollars just in case...
No. of Votes: 15

[X] Hire Casting Experts - You're growing at a remarkable rate, but you're still pretty unaware of a lot of great young acting talent that you could be making use of in your films. Maybe you should rectify that? Note: Adds +5 to related rolls.
No. of Votes: 4

[X] Nose to the Grind (USA) - Eh, you've got enough things to worry about, without taking a vacation. You need to keep on top of your people! (Add +5 to all rolls required as a result).
No. of Votes: 4

[x]Random
No. of Votes: 2

[X] Hire New Legal Team - Your previous Black Lotus-affiliated legal team isn't as up to snuff as you'd like. Bringing in a better firm who can negotiate on behalf of your interests and keep abreast of intellectual properties or opportunities you might be interested in might be helpful. Note: Adds +5 to related rolls.
No. of Votes: 2

Total No. of Voters: 25
 
03/11/2002 - Pre-Production, Production & Post-Production (Fast & Furious 2)








FF2 Final Bill: $ 100,000,000 dollars.

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Someone, somewhere out there hates you bitterly and has cursed you as a result.

It's undisputable you think, because there's no reason for nearly everything to have come apart at the seams so often in this movie's production cycle. If you were more paranoid, you'd suspect sabotage. And if you weren't so restrained, you'd have probably given Matanza a call and given him the self-created target of ire.

I mean-

It's just-

FUCK.

Even the stuff that went well took forever to get done right.

The pre-production? Took like four months outright, because you were so careful in the wake of all the storms and the new refugees from across Texas.

The production? You had to scrap damn near everything from the first run around and just start over six months later when you gave up trying to piece things together. Your post-production basically was the post-production of a post-production!

And Alba and Walker, they really didn't bring their A-game, to either production attempt. Honestly, fuck the both of them! How hard is it to act that you're in fucking love with someone else? Show some goddamn fucking chemistry, for once in your miserable lives!

Maybe you shouldn't have yelled that in their face though, because Vin got hot and Javier and Michelle had to pull everyone apart.

Fucking morons, all of them. You've half a mind to try and reboot on the third film and just recast the rolls, contractual agreements or no. Who cares if they have trilogy options stipulated in their contracts? You don't actually have to extend the deal and make a film with them!

Fucking morons, even that bald-headed behemoth of a LARPer...

"Man, you just cannot find a calm center, can you?" muttered Robert Rodriguez "Come on man, it's just a movie."

"It is not just a movie, Robbie." You shoot back as you pull out a box of cigarrettes and start rifling through "This franchise... it's my sole claim to legitimacy in the industry. It's the biggest thing I've ever made, ever directed."

"I know man, but taking up smokes and yelling at your stars isn't the way to go about things. Diesel's pretty much your shining star, for starters. And I've got half a mind to steal Bardem away from you, and I'm not the only one."

"You can fucking have the lot of them, Robbie. Ungrateful sons of bitches, you make a half billion dollar movie with them and they can't bring their fucking best when it matters?"

"Luck of the draw, dude. Luck of the fucking draw."

"Fuck them," you say with a dismissive wave of your hand "I don't want to talk about them anymore, those bastards. Tell me what's going on with you, man. Spy Kids has had you busy. I bet those child actors are easier to deal with."

"Yeah, but their parents can be right pains. Makes me want to go back to the old Mariachi films where all I had to deal with was making a movie on the cheap."

"Hooligans will be missed. Of course, Troublemaker isn't that much cleaner, is it? But seriously man, you happy to just keep doing Spy Kids?"

"It's paying the bills when I'm not working with Bill and the rest. And having the bills paid lets you daydream, Dario."

"And what is Robert Rodriguez dreaming about?"

"Honestly? TV."

You laugh at him.

"You're better than Hallmark movies, man. I mean it's fine for breaking in, but let's be real-"

"Not what I meant. You've got that percentage in Bravo, right?"

"Yeah, ten percent. Someone keeps calling my office offering to buy it, though."

"Well, let me ask you this: What's the last Latino tv show you saw in the US?"

"Latino? I guess I caught one of those telenovellas on Univision..."

"In English or Spanish?"

"Spanish, obviously."

"And the last time you saw a Latino show in English?"

"Uh... I don't think I ever have. Anybody that's worth a damn either goes to Mexico or does milk-white shit for the all-mighty whitey."

"Exactly. So what if someone did do something like that? Took Latino shows, Latino tropes and Latino culture and made it in English right here in the US?"

"I'd say they'd be throwing their money away. There isn't a market for it, in my opinion. Besides the Cubans, most Latinos aren't integrated that well into America. It's not exactly a profitable audience Robbie, and especially not when they can just watch stuff from home in Spanish."

"Hey, look at you and me-"

"Man, I'm Tejano all the way. My family's Texan before there even was a Texan."

"Yeah, but we're not exactly first-generation, are we? We're young, we're bilingual and we've got money. We're the future of Latinos in this country, man. A generation from now, Latino kids and grand-kids are gonna matter in a big way and those two generations are the ones that are gonna have the money to make it a market. There's already 35 million of us in the country according to the last census. If you don't think that number's gonna grow and get richer and get more spending money then you're crazy."

"So we start two generations from now then. Why are you even talking about this?"

"Because the earlier this starts, the better it proceeds. You and I are lucky in a lot of ways other people aren't man, and we have the ability to effect this sort of change."

"You want to use Bravo? Is that it?"

"No, man. I want to start small. Some local channel here in Texas, somewhere that broadcasts in the Hispanic areas. Get a few local celebrities to help promote it, bring over shows from Mexico and do our own. You cross the line from Cali to Texas when you could have tried to set up your Temple there, and I know it's because you see the same potential here that I do."

"Well the tax breaks didn't hurt."

"Come on man, you know you're liking the idea. A small cheap channel between the two of us, something that broadcasts to somewhere like El Paso. We start there, build our broadcast out slowly..."

"Neither one of us knows how to run a television channel. We also don't have the time."

"So we'll find someone who does!"

"You're incorrigible."

"And you're a cynic. Will you at least think about it?"

"... I'll think about it."
 
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11/02/2003 - Crash & Burn (Fast & Furious 2)



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"Though a far departure from the well-recieved original (at least by general audiences), the difficulties undergone by this production studio in producing this sequel should not be underestimated. While it perhaps might have been better to shelve the film entirely rather than risk sullying their reputation with a below-par film, it's unwarranted savaging among the masses has left more than a little sympathetic to director and producer Dario Cueto's sophomore film. Glimpses of a better movie can be seen within, and film students might do well to pay attention to study an example of continuation despite adversity. For all others, avoidance might be best." - Roger Ebert

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You've made maybe $ 65,000,000 dollars back on the film through ticket sales and other affairs.

Which would be biting, given how costs had ballooned to $ 100,000,000 dollars over the course of the year.

It's even worse when you take into account that two fifths of that box office has to go to your distributors in MGM Pictures and their partner exhibitors.

Which splits the "profits" to $ 39,000,000 dollars your way and $ 26,000,000 dollars their way to be split with exhibitors, which adding in the $ 15,000,000 dollars they paid you to distribute (along with the percentage of MGM plus the movie rights) means their studio bosses have been breaking their share of furniture.

The merchandising money isn't even worth speaking of. You'll be lucky if you shift the fucking stock.

You're not happy.

They're not happy.

You want to crawl inside of a bottle and drink yourself into oblivion.

And there's no reason not to.
 
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Well anyone want to get into laundring money for a drug cartel. Because that was a shitty turn. The only good thing is that Spanish Soap operas use hot women for there female roles. But a Latino channel would be a small market. Loyal and growing but small.
 
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So we basically lost $30 million on F&F 2? Could be worse, I guess, but it still stings...

@Droman With us owning full rights to Highlander, do we have to use it within 3 years or lose it? Or is it ours until we decide to get rid of it?
 
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Let's wait on Highlander till those dreaded sequels are firmly dead in everyone mind. So I guess we go with robocop or start a Latino channel.
 
Let's wait on Highlander till those dreaded sequels are firmly dead in everyone mind. So I guess we go with robocop or start a Latino channel.

This so very much. Highlander IV was released in 2000 and it scored a rating of 12 percent on Rotten Tomatoes. We need to let the bad expectations subside before we do a full reboot.
 
Wow... That's terrible, MGM must be mega pissed at us. Lets just pretend we never did this... The third movie probably will never come out until like 2010. So its irrelevant.
 
Ok next time if we have a good script let's just go with it and go for the easier win. Also like in real life 2 fast 2 furious sucked.
 
On the plus side rock bottom (this isn't it, but he feels like it) is an opportunity to climb back up. I think in the future however we should avoid strategies that involve using lower quality scripts. Bad rolls can tank a 100+ script but they can happen at any time given their randomness, and we want every advantage.

I think we should take some time before approaching F&F3 and then, when we're ready, go into it with every action, modifier, and bonus we can scrounge up. Make it our big redemption story where we finally put this failure behind us. Not right away, everyone will take a hit from this and our earnings will be better if we have a few good movies beforehand.
 
Ok next time if we have a good script let's just go with it and go for the easier win. Also like in real life 2 fast 2 furious sucked.

Wouldn't have made a difference. We didn't get a roll over 50 from Pre-Production Time onwards, except for Javier Bardem's screen presence. RNG hated us, it's that simple :(

@Droman Is Javier's English improving? I remember reading that he was in one of the Pirates of the Caribbean movies, so presumably he can learn some basic swordplay at least.

With that in mind, and considering how well Dario gets along with him, does anyone think Javier could play the lead in our Highlander reboot when we get around to it?
 
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