Movie Tycoon Quest - Temple Productions (2000-)

Since it looks like second then first has more support than I thought it would, I might be willing to change my vote if there is support for hiring a script doctor to punch up the dialogue in the second script.

If we're doing this for the characterization, then we'd better make damn sure that we do it right.

Though there's only so much we can do. I mean, reminder: an 80 is really good. So it'd take a really good script doctor to find that many obviously flawed places that could be much better that aren't subjective.
 
Though there's only so much we can do. I mean, reminder: an 80 is really good. So it'd take a really good script doctor to find that many obviously flawed places that could be much better that aren't subjective.
I don't really care if it makes the script mechanically better, as long as it makes the characterization narratively better.
 
[X] Pick the First - It's easily the best written, but topping it for a third film might be quite difficult.
 
[X] Pick Second, then First - A slight rewrite you'll do yourself, and you'll have your next two F&F films ready.
 
[X] Pick Second, then First - A slight rewrite you'll do yourself, and you'll have your next two F&F films ready.

I think a solid middle entry, and then going out with a bang in the third sounds like a good way to put capends on the trilogy
 
[X] Pick the First - It's easily the best written, but topping it for a third film might be quite difficult.

We can afford a mediocre third film. It is the second film that will keep people's interest alive. If we do this right we can turn it into a cash cow.
 
Again, it's not like the second script is bad. 80 is incredibly solid.

You want this to be a LoTR type trilogy in terms of acclaim, not a Matrix
 
[X] Pick Second, then First - A slight rewrite you'll do yourself, and you'll have your next two F&F films ready.
 
Though there's only so much we can do. I mean, reminder: an 80 is really good. So it'd take a really good script doctor to find that many obviously flawed places that could be much better that aren't subjective.

Is it?

Remember, this was not a single roll. We did 3 such rolls originally, then did 2 more.

At 3 rolls, there's 74% chance of getting an 80 or more. At 4 rolls, there's 83% chance of getting an 80 or more. At 5 rolls, the dice roller times out. Even without David Ayer (without the +15 bonus), you have 50% odds of getting above 80 on just 3 rolls.

That means that a roll of 80, assuming other studios do about the same effort as us, it is somewhere between the bottom 15% and the bottom 50% of scripts, depending on the quality of their script writers.

For that matter, with 4 rolls, there's 45.3% chance of getting 102 (our crit) or better. So, I wouldn't put that script as amazing either. It's just slightly above average for the effort we put into it.

AnyDice

[x] Pick the First - It's easily the best written, but topping it for a third film might be quite difficult.

Based on my statistical analysis, topping it shouldn't be that hard, assuming we can keep David Ayer on board.
 
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Is it?

Remember, this was not a single roll. We did 3 such rolls originally, then did 2 more.

At 3 rolls, there's 74% chance of getting an 80 or more. At 4 rolls, there's 83% chance of getting an 80 or more. At 5 rolls, the dice roller times out. Even without David Ayer (without the +15 bonus), you have 50% odds of getting above 80 on just 3 rolls.

That means that a roll of 80, assuming other studios do about the same effort as us, it is somewhere between the bottom 15% and the bottom 50% of scripts, depending on the quality of their script writers.

For that matter, with 4 rolls, there's 45.3% chance of getting 102 (our crit) or better. So, I wouldn't put that script as amazing either. It's just slightly above average for the effort we put into it.

AnyDice

[x] Pick the First - It's easily the best written, but topping it for a third film might be quite difficult.

Based on my statistical analysis, topping it shouldn't be that hard, assuming we can keep David Ayer on board.
I'll just leave this here.
While DC for success will vary depending on film genre, expenditure, release dates, etc... the below can generally be seen as a baseline:
  • Meeting a DC 110 means that you probably record a box office record somewhere.
  • Meeting a DC 80 means that it made back its money and more.
  • Meeting a DC 50 means that it made back its money with only a little loss/profit.
  • Meeting a DC 30 means that it's money was not made back by as much as half or more.
 
Okay, that reinforces my point. 80 is just barely sufficient to be mediocre, and 102 is good, but not record breaking.

Edit: Though I will note that that is for the final roll, not for preproduction.

In any case, the 80-roll is not "really good", it is "tolerable" or "adequate".
 
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[X] Pick Second, then First - A slight rewrite you'll do yourself, and you'll have your next two F&F films ready.
 
[x] Pick the First - It's easily the best written, but topping it for a third film might be quite difficult

I have no opinions of my own, and am easily swayed :V
 
Sure, but then why are Dom and his crew breaking him out? They parted on bad terms, and it took an entire movie for them to patch that up in the OTL, you'll have to explain why that's happening, or else it'll make no sense. Unless of course its a different crew/reason that results in Bryan getting broken out, in which case that needs an explanation, as well. That's a LOT of stuff to be stuffing into a movie.

Basically:

I can easily imagine Dom doing it to "pay off a debt", planning to part ways at the first available opportunity. But of course, circumstances force them together in Japan, where they need to bury the hatchet in order to survive. Seems like it would be a nice B plot for the movie.

@Droman, what quality movie is 80 anyway? Any equivalents we can be given?

Well this is the movie script quality, not the movie quality. Scripts will give bonuses towards acting and the final result, which may well be above or below 80 depending on RNG. I'd say an 80% liked film would be something like the Untouchables (just rewatched it, don't ask) or an Ocean's Eleven.

That being said, a movie quality has no immediate correleation to it's fan enjoyment or popularity. Plenty of action films don't necessary land with critics while being profitable and drawing huge audiences (Transformers for example).
 
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[X] Pick Second, then First - A slight rewrite you'll do yourself, and you'll have your next two F&F films ready.
 
[X] Pick the First - It's easily the best written, but topping it for a third film might be quite difficult.

Honestly, the other option people are going for just... annoys me. Game mechanics aside, it just feels like the sort of thing that comes back and bites you in the arse.
Also this option's pretty good in its own right.
So this one gets my vote, as is right and proper.
 

Vote Tally : Original - Movie Tycoon Quest - Temple Productions (2000-) | Page 30 | Sufficient Velocity
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[X] Pick Second, then First - A slight rewrite you'll do yourself, and you'll have your next two F&F films ready.
No. of Votes: 26

[X] Pick the First - It's easily the best written, but topping it for a third film might be quite difficult.
No. of Votes: 22

Total No. of Voters: 48
 
[X]Pick the First
I didn't vote earlier because I honestly thought I didn't need to, but it's now clear that I do, so here's some support.
 
03/01/2002 - A New Year's Beginning
A new year and a new beginning means that you've got quite a bit of planning to do. While you've of course decided on how the Fast and Furious franchise should be handled over the next few years, you haven't decided just how you'll be handling everything else in the company...

[] Avoid Your Taxes (2001) - While you made a nice bundle of money on 2001's Fast & Furious film, there's no reason why you ought to be paying the taxman his fair share. You might have fired Xuan Lao, but your ties to his organization are sizeable and they could help you conceal your true profits for less than a third of what you pay the taxman. Note: Free Action, cannot be taken with Pay Your Taxes. Will cost a third of whatever your actual taxes are expected to be. May have repercussions down the line.

[] Bravo (The Offer) - Apparently Rainbow Media (one of the larger stake-holders in the channel) is hoping to buy your stake in the channel so it can sell it on to Universal and in doing so divest itself of Universal as a stake-holder in itself. Given how much you overpaid for the damn thing in the end, selling it for 75 million (what are you even saying?) feels a bit of a bitter pill.

[] Expand Production (Partnership) (Write In Major Studio) - Your current limit of one film per administrative year is unsatisfactory. But rather than pay good money yourself to expand the current studio, you'll sign an agreement with a Major Studio to make use of their own production capabilities. Maybe sign a deal with Universal to produce the Riddick series, or work with MGM to produce the F&F series... Note: Cannot be taken with Expand Production (Personal), will lock AA for six months.

[] Expand Production (Personal) - Your current limit of one film per administrative year is unsatisfactory. While it'll be very expensive, taking on more employees could be a very useful thing. Note: Will allow two movies running at once, and if two movies don't run then a fee of 3 million will be levied for each missing movie. Cannot be taken with Expand Production (Partnership), will lock AA for six months.

[] Pay Your Taxes (2001) - You owe the taxman for 2001's Fast & Furious film, and you owe him quite a lot. To be precise, you owe them $ 17,314,626.3 dollars. Better pay it up. Note: Free Action, cannot be taken with Avoid Your Taxes.
[] Fast & Furious Development II (2003) - You've decided to get this show on the road, and have the primary cast locked down as needed. So you just needed to get started on the production, which you've already set up with a budget of 60 million dollars just in case...
[] Hire Casting Experts - You're growing at a remarkable rate, but you're still pretty unaware of a lot of great young acting talent that you could be making use of in your films. Maybe you should rectify that? Note: Adds +5 to related rolls.

[] Hire Marketing Experts - You're growing at a remarkable rate, but you're still pretty unaware of what revenue streams you could be taking advantage of to further benefit off your films. Maybe you should rectify that? Note: Adds +5 to related rolls.

[] Hire New Legal Team - Your previous Black Lotus-affiliated legal team isn't as up to snuff as you'd like. Bringing in a better firm who can negotiate on behalf of your interests and keep abreast of intellectual properties or opportunities you might be interested in might be helpful. Note: Adds +5 to related rolls.

[] Search for Superhero IPs - You need more recognizable brands to mine, and you've set your mind on finding the best. Your research team isn't the best, but you'll make do with what you can. Note: Will roll a 1d100.

[] Search for Sci Fi IPs - You need more recognizable brands to mine, and you've set your mind on finding the best. Your research team isn't the best, but you'll make do with what you can.Note: Will roll a 1d100.
[] Go Visit Matanza (Mexico) - You haven't seen your brother in ages, and he's apparently doing well in Mexico. Maybe you should go down to Mexico and hang out. After all, little bro knows the dirtiest streets...

[] Nose to the Grind (USA) - Eh, you've got enough things to worry about, without taking a vacation. You need to keep on top of your people! (Add +5 to all rolls required as a result).

[] Visit Robert Rodriguez - Your friend seems to have struck gold with his Spy Kids franchise, but not near as well as you have with Fast & Furious. Going to see him at his Troublemaker Studios in Austin to catch up could be nice, but Robert always has something on his mind or on his plate that you can't help but want to know about.
 
[X] Expand Production (Personal) - Your current limit of one film per administrative year is unsatisfactory. While it'll be very expensive, taking on more employees could be a very useful thing. Note: Will allow two movies running at once, and if two movies don't run then a fee of 3 million will be levied for each missing movie. Cannot be taken with Expand Production (Partnership), will lock AA for six months.
[X] Pay Your Taxes (2001) - You owe the taxman for 2001's Fast & Furious film, and you owe him quite a lot. To be precise, you owe them $ 17,314,626.3 dollars. Better pay it up. Note: Free Action, cannot be taken with Avoid Your Taxes.
[X] Hire Marketing Experts - You're growing at a remarkable rate, but you're still pretty unaware of what revenue streams you could be taking advantage of to further benefit off your films. Maybe you should rectify that? Note: Adds +5 to related rolls.
[X] Visit Robert Rodriguez - Your friend seems to have struck gold with his Spy Kids franchise, but not near as well as you have with Fast & Furious. Going to see him at his Troublemaker Studios in Austin to catch up could be nice, but Robert always has something on his mind or on his plate that you can't help but want to know about.
 
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