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Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes and Phantom Pain

Lol, the dog's carrying a knife in his mouth.

The eyepatch already sold it for me, but Critical Miss said it best a while ago:

 
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Eukie said:
Apparently she locked herself in Metal Gear's Mammal Pod over a disagreement with Huey and died from asphyxiation, because Otacon can have no happiness.
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Women at this point need to absolutely avoid coming into any contact with Otacon.

It's almost certain fridging if he develops any degree of attachment to you, even if completely one sided.

If they ever do a game in the future of the series I worry about Sunny.
 
trob030490 said:
Women at this point need to absolutely avoid coming into any contact with Otacon.

It's almost certain fridging if he develops any degree of attachment to you, even if completely one sided.

If they ever do a game in the future of the series I worry about Sunny.
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Not sure if you've played Metal Gear Rising, but she shows up in the third act in rude health and with no Emmerichs in sight. As of 2018, she's just fine. Heck by the end she even has a super-capable AI robo dog guarding her because he likes her so much!
 
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Not sure if you've played Metal Gear Rising, but she shows up in the third act in rude health and with no Emmerichs in sight. As of 2018, she's just fine. Heck by the end she even has a super-capable AI robo dog guarding her because he likes her so much!
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I've played Rising.

I meant if any take place after Rising.

Though, with Kojima gone, she's probably safe. Whoever Konami gets might not feel the need to make Otacon sad yet again because a woman he cared for ended up dead somehow.
 
trob030490 said:
I've played Rising.

I meant if any take place after Rising.

Though, with Kojima gone, she's probably safe. Whoever Konami gets might not feel the need to make Otacon sad yet again because a woman he cared for ended up dead somehow.
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Where that narrative path to be trod I'd wager it'd Raiden instead, but that's just toe-mate-oh/toe-mah-toe.

On a not-completely unrelated note, I'm beginning to suspect that some of the batshit ridiculous stuff the Patriots were apparently sitting on near the end may have come directly from the workshop of Emmerich sr.

I mean, man-portable Orbital Frame widgets? Wormholes? Sahelanthropus? Guy was way the hell ahead of his time even by Metal Gear's utterly loony standards.

That's some Revengeance-style bullshit right there, except in the eighties!
 
I honestly have no idea what you're all talking about, and I don't intend to check, but let's be honest. This is a franchise where a lot of things sound incredibly stupid when you say them out loud, yet that hasn't stopped us getting this many games deep. Maybe Snake's stupidity just infects me when I'm playing or something, but I do genuinely think you probably can't judge how you'll react to the details of the game from a second hand report. This is true of a lot of things, really, but I think it's particularly true of Metal Gear, which is unusually dumb.
 
Ford Prefect said:
I honestly have no idea what you're all talking about, and I don't intend to check, but let's be honest. This is a franchise where a lot of things sound incredibly stupid when you say them out loud, yet that hasn't stopped us getting this many games deep. Maybe Snake's stupidity just infects me when I'm playing or something, but I do genuinely think you probably can't judge how you'll react to the details of the game from a second hand report. This is true of a lot of things, really, but I think it's particularly true of Metal Gear, which is unusually dumb.
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Ultimate Co-op Weapon: Human Slingshot!

Is that the sort of thing you're thinking about? When you tell someone it, it sounds idiotic, but it's actually awesome.
 
trob030490 said:
Women at this point need to absolutely avoid coming into any contact with Otacon.

It's almost certain fridging if he develops any degree of attachment to you, even if completely one sided.

If they ever do a game in the future of the series I worry about Sunny.
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Forget about Otacon's genes being cursed with nuclear weapons. They're the genes of a... ladykiller! :ogles::sour:
 
As stupid as it sounds, this is what they say happened.

>Strangelove: Open this thing!
>Strangelove: Huey!
>Strangelove: Damn it Huey! Open it now!
>Strangelove: Please... Let me out...
>Strangelove: Kill me...
>Strangelove: If only I tried to get out sooner...
>Strangelove: Perhaps I'd have made it.
>Strangelove: Why didn't I stop the hatch from closing? Even if it meant losing an arm?
>Strangelove: Well, I guess I'll...stay a while.
>Strangelove: My voice... It's so distant.
>Strangelove: But you can hear me, can't you, Joy?
>Strangelove: I know you can. You're recording all of this.
>Strangelove: Deep down in some memory board he'll never find.
>Strangelove: Duplicating it...
>Strangelove: Burying it under heaps of meaningless code.
>Strangelove: Anyway, I guess I can say what needs to be said...
>Strangelove: I can still do that much - talk to you...
>Strangelove: Even if I can't face you.
>Strangelove: Even if there's a heaven - even if you're waiting there - I don't deserve to see you again.
>Strangelove: I don't deserve to love you.
>Strangelove: I signed up for Zero's plan.
>Strangelove: Even now that he's halfway to dead, his plan lives on - leeching away at the world.
>Strangelove: And it took your strength to make it happen.
>Strangelove: In using you, I put the world in his palm, once and for all.
>Strangelove: Zero... Zero...
>Strangelove: Or whoever it is who's taken his name...
>Strangelove: They found me - after the Caribbean.
>Strangelove: They made me...simulate his will.
>Strangelove: So that - even after the body was gone - that will would keep the world turning the way they wanted.
>Strangelove: I had no choice.
>Strangelove: They dredged Lago Cocibolca, pulled up your phantom...
>Strangelove: Forced me to revive and modify you.
>Strangelove: I thought I could bring you back! But in the end...
>Strangelove: I sold your will to "him."
>Strangelove: Now this pod is just one big shell - a husk.
>Strangelove: Your phantom's no longer here...
>Strangelove: As for me, everything I touch turns to ashes.
>Strangelove: I could never make anyone happy.
>Strangelove: ...And now I'll never see my son again.
>Strangelove: But at least Hal's free from his father's hands.
>Strangelove: Me, with child. Can you imagine?
>Strangelove: I wonder how you took the news.
>Strangelove: Were you jealous?
>Strangelove: I knew what I was doing.
>Strangelove: If I could pass your will on to a child I carried...
>Strangelove: My genes, your meme...
>Strangelove: The father would be...irrelevant.
>Strangelove: If I did that, that child would be ours.
>Strangelove: I've been a fool.
>Strangelove: Pride, conceit, baseless theories... Of course I couldn't see through the dream.
>Strangelove: The "false you" I created...
>Strangelove: I only wanted to pass your will on to the next generation.
>Strangelove: But Zero took it away.
>Strangelove: And now I haven't just lost you, I've lost my...
>Strangelove: Oh Hal, can you forgive
>Strangelove: the mother who couldn't protect you?
>Strangelove: The one who let them take it all away from us?
>Strangelove: There's still hope.
>Strangelove: You - the one he took away.
>Strangelove: He'll never break your will.
>Strangelove: The will to make this world...
>Strangelove: The way you saw it could be.
>Strangelove: I buried code - just to be sure.
>Strangelove: Inside of you, there's an "egg." And when someone finds it... When they crack it...
>Strangelove: There'll be nothing left to stop you.
>Strangelove: The world you envisioned will become a reality.
>Strangelove: Joy...
>Strangelove: I know you can hear me...
>Strangelove: You do remember my voice, don't you?
>Strangelove: Please...
>Strangelove: Take care of our son.
>Strangelove: Hal...
>Strangelove: Don't ever be afraid.
>Strangelove: Whatever happens out there, she'll be watching over you.
>Strangelove: The system - the framework for your world - will protect you.
>Strangelove: You don't need me...
>Strangelove: You just need to be strong enough for the both of us.
>Strangelove: Talked...too much...
>Strangelove: I'm glad it's you...
>Strangelove: Here at the end...
>Strangelove: I think I hear your pulse...
 
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...I'm going to have to see that to believe it, because that is amazingly fucked up :o
 
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BOY HOWDY IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S A DANG GOOD REASON THAT ONE EARLY TRAILER HAD OCELOT GIVING WHEELS THE OL' TASERS-TO-THE-NIPPLES TREATMENT
 
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As stupid as it sounds, this is what they say happened.

>Strangelove: Open this thing!
>Strangelove: Huey!
>Strangelove: Damn it Huey! Open it now!
>Strangelove: Please... Let me out...
>Strangelove: Kill me...
>Strangelove: If only I tried to get out sooner...
>Strangelove: Perhaps I'd have made it.
>Strangelove: Why didn't I stop the hatch from closing? Even if it meant losing an arm?
>Strangelove: Well, I guess I'll...stay a while.
>Strangelove: My voice... It's so distant.
>Strangelove: But you can hear me, can't you, Joy?
>Strangelove: I know you can. You're recording all of this.
>Strangelove: Deep down in some memory board he'll never find.
>Strangelove: Duplicating it...
>Strangelove: Burying it under heaps of meaningless code.
>Strangelove: Anyway, I guess I can say what needs to be said...
>Strangelove: I can still do that much - talk to you...
>Strangelove: Even if I can't face you.
>Strangelove: Even if there's a heaven - even if you're waiting there - I don't deserve to see you again.
>Strangelove: I don't deserve to love you.
>Strangelove: I signed up for Zero's plan.
>Strangelove: Even now that he's halfway to dead, his plan lives on - leeching away at the world.
>Strangelove: And it took your strength to make it happen.
>Strangelove: In using you, I put the world in his palm, once and for all.
>Strangelove: Zero... Zero...
>Strangelove: Or whoever it is who's taken his name...
>Strangelove: They found me - after the Caribbean.
>Strangelove: They made me...simulate his will.
>Strangelove: So that - even after the body was gone - that will would keep the world turning the way they wanted.
>Strangelove: I had no choice.
>Strangelove: They dredged Lago Cocibolca, pulled up your phantom...
>Strangelove: Forced me to revive and modify you.
>Strangelove: I thought I could bring you back! But in the end...
>Strangelove: I sold your will to "him."
>Strangelove: Now this pod is just one big shell - a husk.
>Strangelove: Your phantom's no longer here...
>Strangelove: As for me, everything I touch turns to ashes.
>Strangelove: I could never make anyone happy.
>Strangelove: ...And now I'll never see my son again.
>Strangelove: But at least Hal's free from his father's hands.
>Strangelove: Me, with child. Can you imagine?
>Strangelove: I wonder how you took the news.
>Strangelove: Were you jealous?
>Strangelove: I knew what I was doing.
>Strangelove: If I could pass your will on to a child I carried...
>Strangelove: My genes, your meme...
>Strangelove: The father would be...irrelevant.
>Strangelove: If I did that, that child would be ours.
>Strangelove: I've been a fool.
>Strangelove: Pride, conceit, baseless theories... Of course I couldn't see through the dream.
>Strangelove: The "false you" I created...
>Strangelove: I only wanted to pass your will on to the next generation.
>Strangelove: But Zero took it away.
>Strangelove: And now I haven't just lost you, I've lost my...
>Strangelove: Oh Hal, can you forgive
>Strangelove: the mother who couldn't protect you?
>Strangelove: The one who let them take it all away from us?
>Strangelove: There's still hope.
>Strangelove: You - the one he took away.
>Strangelove: He'll never break your will.
>Strangelove: The will to make this world...
>Strangelove: The way you saw it could be.
>Strangelove: I buried code - just to be sure.
>Strangelove: Inside of you, there's an "egg." And when someone finds it... When they crack it...
>Strangelove: There'll be nothing left to stop you.
>Strangelove: The world you envisioned will become a reality.
>Strangelove: Joy...
>Strangelove: I know you can hear me...
>Strangelove: You do remember my voice, don't you?
>Strangelove: Please...
>Strangelove: Take care of our son.
>Strangelove: Hal...
>Strangelove: Don't ever be afraid.
>Strangelove: Whatever happens out there, she'll be watching over you.
>Strangelove: The system - the framework for your world - will protect you.
>Strangelove: You don't need me...
>Strangelove: You just need to be strong enough for the both of us.
>Strangelove: Talked...too much...
>Strangelove: I'm glad it's you...
>Strangelove: Here at the end...
>Strangelove: I think I hear your pulse...
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And to add onto the above, this is supposed to be what the Diamond Dogs think of them
Kaz: Nine years ago, this man acted as
accomplice to the attack on Mother Base.
He then provided support to Skull Face.
Conspiring with Eli, he repaired Sahelanthropus in secret.
His "research materials" caused the
leak at the quarantine facility.
Which in turn caused the Wolbachia mutation.
letting the parasites off their chains.
We lost a lot of good men.
He also stands accused of
murdering one of his own family, hiding the body.

Huey: I haven't killed anyone.
The rest is all wrong, too.
The inspection was supposed to help everyone!
I sacrificed myself for my companions
just as much as any of you...
Why won't you believe me?!

Kaz: The prosecution calls a witness.
Strangelove's gravestone.
Haunted by her phantom.

Huey: It's just a machine...

Recording: Open this thing!
Huey!
Damn it Huey! Open it now!
Please... Let me out...
Kill me...

Kaz: It recorded it all.
Everything...
Everything you did living together.
How could a machine...?
You forced your own son into the
cockpit of a Metal Gear. A test subject.
Hal...
His mother had to hide him away...
And for that you locked her in that coffin.

Huey: No! She... She did it herself!
It was suicide!
...And even if I did.
what right do you have?

Kaz: There's more.
We have you to tell us everything you've done -
everything you've thought - all this time.
Nine years ago
You agreed to the inspection in return for
Cipher's guarantee that you'd be spared.

Huey:I thought it was real!

Kaz: We've reviewed into everything else
that's happened since you arrived here.

Huey: Please...

Kaz: Guilty.
All counts.

Diamond Dog: Kill him!
Kill him!
Kill him!
Kill him!

Kaz: We exist outside the law.
What should we do, Boss? Just give the order...
We'll handle the rest.

Big Boss: Prepare a life raft.
Big enough for one. Food and water, too.

Kaz: Boss...?

Big Boss: He's leaving.

Kaz: You...
He's responsible for...
for all of this .
Think of all the men...
He didn't lose a damned thing.
This is the enemy, and he's here - on his knees...!

Big Boss: Kaz.
You are Hight. he is not one of us...
But we are not responsible to judge an enemy.
He leaves Mother Base and
that'll be the end of it.

Huey: Get back! Don't touch me!
I'm innocent!
You're the murderers!
Snake, you should be in this boat!
There'd have been no inspection if
it weren't for your precious nuke!
I risked my life trying to save you all!
How can you do this?!
Am I the only sane one here?!
I... My...
It's not my fault.
Look... You can't discard your phantoms forever, Doctor.
Son of a bitch'll make it, you know.
I can see it now.
In no time he'll be telling tales about
the black-hearted Diamond Dogs.
The shining white knight. Blabbering on about our injustice,
hiding behind his fool's idea of morality...
And all the other fools will stand around,
nodding with every word he says.
No.
One day he'll see through the lies he's built up.
Realize what kind of man he really is.
What goes around comes around. You can't run from yourself forever.

Huey is banished from Mother Base after the scene. He survives to marry again and set up the rest of Otacon and Emma's backstories
 
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    • cqc time hey guys

    it's still possible to give enough details that people can connect the dots through implication even if you keep the actual text under a spoiler tag

    I was actually going be nice @PraiseVectron, and then you had to edit the spoiler tag to have a more obvious title




    With that said, we do plan on having a spoiler thread made on the day of official release, so for anybody worried that they can't exactly word things properly to avoid getting CQC'd, you can talk all you want without concern there once that day arrives.

    We just need to last three days.

    Three more days....
     
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    • ZerbanDaGreat said:
    The final sequence will be you playing as Solid Snake, infiltrating your Mother Base in the style of the FOB multiplayer, and finally engaging in a Big final Boss battle.
    EDIT: And I'm pretty sure I've already said that in this thread but FUCK IT.
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    I was about to call you out on shameless plagiarism from my Page 7 post:

    Masket said:
    I'm willing to bet mad money it will end with a David Hayter-voiced Solid Snake infiltrating Outer Heaven a la Metal Gear 1. You know it makes sense.
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    Until I realised you still think it'll be Mother Base. That's just enough of a difference for me to let you live. This time.
     
    Oh yeah, and despite all those positive reviews, there's still one thing this game will need to be truly impeccable. Namely, a certain character's backstory being revealed.

    Raiden? Nope. Psycho Mantis? Nah. Liquid? Solidus? Grey Fox? Decoy Octopus? NEIN!



    BRING BACK JETSREEEEEEAAMMMMM
     
    Masket said:
    Oh yeah, and despite all those positive reviews, there's still one thing this game will need to be truly impeccable. Namely, a certain character's backstory being revealed.

    Raiden? Nope. Psycho Mantis? Nah. Liquid? Solidus? Grey Fox? Decoy Octopus? NEIN!



    BRING BACK JETSREEEEEEAAMMMMM
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    His story is literally revealed if you actually do the CODEC talks in Rising!
    He was the son of a Brazilian killing sword teacher. One of his father's students killed his father, presumably for the Brazilian cartels/mob/wtfever. Sam vanishes, comes back, kills his father's killer and becomes a merc with a penchant for taking jobs to fuck over the cartels. He also solo'd a heavily armed hitsquad with just his sword prior to the released of the muscle suit technology. And then the Jetstream Sam DLC happened.
     
    I finally convinced my brother to play Ground Zeroes. Based on his testimony his first ever run of a Metal Gear game involved:

    > A literal pile of unconscious Marines
    > At least a dozen alert states
    > Accidentally murdering sentries
    > Almost forgetting to grab Chico
    > Abusing Chico
    > Failing to spot an APC right in front of him
    > Getting one of his hostages shot of his back
    > Kidnapping a Marine on the helicopter
    > Half a dozen restarts
    > C Rank
    > Freaking out a little during the following cut scene

    Well he did it, and that's all that matters.
     
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    Failing to spot an APC right in front of him
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    First time I played through Ground Zeroes I missed the IFV out front of the admin section, too. In retrospect I don't know how given its blaring headlights and rumbling engine, but your brother isn't alone.

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    My best mate simply can't watch it. When I played through the mission at his place he sort of curled up into a ball.
     
    Ford Prefect said:
    My best mate simply can't watch it. When I played through the mission at his place he sort of curled up into a ball.
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    I've honestly seen worse in other games, but I think the shock comes more from the fact that there has NEVER been anything that friggen graphic in a Metal Gear game before. Worse that ever happened before was cut off limbs, and even then they were clean and just looked a little bloody.
     
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