Atregos probably needs the balls kick he's about to receive.

Just because a species different than you is involved, doesn't mean you shouldn't help. People are more than the nations and powers they are 'members' of, and if innocent people are threatened directly(like the goblins attacking diagon alley and this attack), you absolutely have the obligation to help. Now wars between different armies, that's a different thing, but we've had two civilian settings be attacked in this story: one where Atregos helped and said he was 'helping' the 'bad guys' at one point [which would have been true if he'd been helping the racist government that caused the whole GOblin enslavement thing and WASN'T fighting a self styled 'Warlord' who attacked civilians] and a second setting where he just doesn't want to help despite a city of god knows how many innocent people being under threat.
 
5 bucks on the dragons. :p
Well, it's not like the Nazgul have any more clue what they are getting into than Atregos does. Sauron (The Witch King?) detect some wizardly device protecting the city and overpowered it, and then dispatched his minions to eliminate the 'squishy wizard' who built it before he could create any more surprises.

Atregos and Ren are going to be much tougher targets than anticipated.
 
Well, it's not like the Nazgul have any more clue what they are getting into than Atregos does. Sauron (The Witch King?) detect some wizardly device protecting the city and overpowered it, and then dispatched his minions to eliminate the 'squishy wizard' who built it before he could create any more surprises.

Atregos and Ren are going to be much tougher targets than anticipated.

Except Atregos/Hiver can't kill the Witch King, Ren can however... There's another issue with that, The more Overt Magic is used, the more Sauron can use without Manwë and Co, getting involved.

And barring an on the spot Apotheosis into Aspect of Magic, even a weakened Sauron can steamroll the Dragons, of course him doing that will unlock Gandalf/Olorin to use his more esoteric abilities.
 
Except Atregos/Hiver can't kill the Witch King, Ren can however...

whether or not Atregos can kill him depends on how rigidly the term 'man' is interpreted by the magic.

- No human? (disproved by canon events)
- no male? Well, Merry was able to stab him so at worst males can at least hurt him. even temporarily 'killing' him could remove him from the board long enough to negate his usefulness. And if I recll correctly, the Nazgul died with Sauron. so once the ring goes bye-bye, the Witch-King is dust in the wind.
- no human male? in this case Atregos could do it since he's not human, he's a dragon.

In any case, the other 8 ringwraiths are more vulnerable, and their fellbeasts certainly aren't unkillable. An attack that takes out a wing will send the Beast and it's rider on an express elevator down (hopefully outside the walls)
 
- No human? (disproved by canon events)
Au contraire. A male hobbit assisted in killing him in canon.

And I'm fairly sure hobbits are a human subspecies in LotR (given known characteristics and lack of expressed origins), so I'm pretty sure "man" is a descriptive term referring to males of the racial/cultural group known by that label in Middle-Earth, rather than a proscriptive "all males" or "all Homo sapiens sapiens".
 
Except Atregos/Hiver can't kill the Witch King, Ren can however...
In the books the Witch-King died because Pippin had an enchanted blade that broke the spell binding the Witch-Kings spirit to his body, and Éowyn killing him before he had time to recast it, not because Tolkien was enough of a hack to have semantics control magic. The "I am no man" comment was Éowyn trash-talking, not the grand reveal of the Witch-King's weakness.

So it really depends on if this is the book or movieverse, and how good he is at breaking spells.
 
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- No human? (disproved by canon events)
u contraire. A male hobbit assisted in killing him in canon.
I said it was disproven in canon because he was killed by a human (Eowyn), therefore 'man' in this case cannot be equated to 'human', regardless of whether Hobbits are a subspecies or not.

In the books the Witch-King died because Pippin had an enchanted blade that broke the spell binding the Witch-Kings spirit to his body,
was it Merry or Pippin that went with Gandalf? I thought it was Pippin, leaving Merry to team with Eowyn...:???:
 
was it Merry or Pippin that went with Gandalf? I thought it was Pippin, leaving Merry to team with Eowyn...:???:
You're right, it was Merry. Derp. Still stand by the "No Man may kill me" is just his way of saying "No one can kill me" using "Man" in its gender neutral form, and it was said curse being broken by Merry's dagger that allowed Eowyn to be successful. After all, you don't go spreading around your weakness as a riddle.

If it was a literal "can only be killed by woman" thing he'd go out of his way to say that "no living being can kill me" to hide said weakness.
 
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Wasn't it a prophesy of some sort, that he wouldn't be killed by any man, and his bragging was basically just reminding people that they didn't fit the description of the prophesy (until he faced the duo of "not male" and "not of the racial group known as 'man')?

edit: Like, I'm pretty sure it was part of the same "screw you MacBeth" injoke that led to the Ents marching on Isengard; the ents were one upping the "when the forest marches" prophesy, the Witch King was one upping the "no man of woman born" prophesy.
 
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It was literally an elf seeing the future and saying that "it is not by the hand of Man" that he'll die. It's a description. A hobbit probably wouldn't count as one of the race of men to an elf, largely because the elf would be saying "what even is that thing, it's so tiny and hairy, is it like some kind of weird new dwarf or a baby? mortals are weird."

It was also totally a Macbeth reference. Bloody lazy Shakespeare.
 
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"Atregos!"

Ren yelled my name as the air around her exploded into spell smoke as she turned back to her real form. Her standard dragon armour shifting and expanding, covering her body fully as she got ready for a fight.

She didn't try lifting off though, she was smarter than that. They had the energy advantage. Trying to get into the air would be outright stupid.

Three of them. They were riding some sort of… twisted looking wyverns.

Well, I wasn't about to fight those in this form!

Channeling my magic I turned back and half spread my wings for balance as my armour shifted, growing out along my wings and along my legs, growing and flowing.

The first one dove towards me and I threw myself to the side with a snarl, avoiding it's claws before lashing out with my right wing, the razor sharp front end cutting through it's wing.

The first flying wyern thing went down screaming, it's rider going flying across the ground. Ren let lose with her breath, frost flowing across the second and it went down, crashing to the ground and it and it's riders going rolling.

The last one bowled her over and they both when down.

Ren!

Throwing the wyvern off, she roared and then pounced, ripping into the beast with her armours adamantium claws.

I should have known better than to be worried about her.

She was a better fighter than I was!

The riders were getting up, pulling longswords out of… somewhere. Hmm… spells or enchanted?

Those swords weren't normal. Not unless they literally pulled them out of their arses.

The first one lunged at Ren and she ducked back only to respond with a blast of frost, blowing him off his feet.

The second attacker was luckier.

He charged at her and struck, his blade sliding through her side and she roared in pain, stumbling to the side before falling.

No!!

Surging forward, I cast a spell of force, sending the three attackers flying backwards along the stony ground as I rushed ovaer to her.

"Ren!"

She didn't move but her armour suddenly collapsed slightly against the ground. Smoke and fire flowed from the satchel attached to her armour and she reformed from her soulstone next to me.

She stumbled and collapsed again with a whimper and a growl.

"Ren!" I asked and nosed.

"Side hurts," she groaned and struggled up.

Jumping over her, I checked. She wasn't bleeding, but there was a thin line along her scales. Which was literally impossible because her entire body had been reformed. Only way anything at all would have transferred is if…

That sword had cut her soul as well as her body.

Those motherfuckers.

The… wraith things were approaching again, their swords held at the ready.

Snarling, I nuzzled, "Go, you can't be hit again."

She growled at me and struggled up again, wings half spread but she stumbled again.

"Go!" I growled at her as I shifted back to mortal form, spell smoke spreading out around me.

Those things would pay for hurting her.

I couldn't fight them in my real form, they were too… if one hit would take me down, I couldn't get hit. Breath and spells clearly didn't kill them so taking off and strafing wouldn't work.

My armour clearly wouldn't help.

I don't know why I even bother.

"Not leaving you," Ren growled behind me.

I wouldn't have either.

Damn it.

"…Stay back and throw spells," I growled back and turned to face the wraith things, "And you can go get fucked," I snarled and pulled my dagger, casting the spell to let me see magic.

They changed. From hooded figures to glowing walking corpses with sunken skin.

I had been right, they were wraith things, twisted undead abomination of magic. If there were any doubt that the ones that were attacking the city were the bad ones here, it just disappeared.

Dropping the spell, I started towards them, shifting my dagger into a spear, stabbing the first one straight in the chest.

"Fool, dragon. No man can kill me," it hissed at me as it stopped moving, just standing there with my spear in it's chest.

"Really? Good."

Twisting my spear, I shifted it, the spear head jabbing thick spikes of metal out through the sides of it's chest, enchantments forming around and inside it, as I set up a power siphon, pulling natural mana.

Letting go of my weapon, it activated and twisted, the handle whipping around and stabbing into the rock below to anchor in place as it started to send thunderbolt after thunderbolt of electric energy into the wraith from the inside.

The wraith screamed and jerked, stumbling and falling.

The other two hesitated and I pulled the next dagger from my belt.




AN\\ Unbetaed because some strange derp. First time I sent it, it didn't get sent and I didn't notice and I kind of have to post this tonight as I have a early morning tomorrow. Will update with fixed part later.
 
Foolish thing that isn't one of the things that cant kill me, you totally cant kill me, because you are specifically not the the creature I am immune to, I am in fact immune to one race, the race that you are not.
:V

unless he was saying that males cannot kill him no matter the race, in which case the lightning technically killed him.
 
Foolish thing that isn't one of the things that cant kill me, you totally cant kill me, because you are specifically not the the creature I am immune to, I am in fact immune to one race, the race that you are not.
:V

unless he was saying that males cannot kill him no matter the race, in which case the lightning technically killed him.
He's not dead. He's just trapped in place and getting struck by lightning over and over and over again, unable to die.
 
You know, it'd be hilarious to see an omake where The Girls (Jaina, Ren, Sheila, etcetera -- and Alexstrasza for kicks) all have a "girl time" discussions, chatting and giggling about their blokes and women stuff, etcetera.

Meanwhile, our poor protagonist and company look on from a distance, feeling dread in their hearts as their friends and spouses occasionally glance at them, giggling or scowling.

All males fear girl time. ;)
 
Strange that nobody else noticed this but...

In the backstory there were two blue wizards who allegedly went off into the east.

Now we have two, blue, wizards (er, sorta) coming to help ex nihilo.
Eru has a sense of humour, it'd seem*.



*: Not saying His reach extends beyond Middle-Earth, but omnescience and omnipotence does lend itself to nudging the universe back and forth a bit; like a trampoline made of branes; if you want an incoming planeswalker to land in a specific spot.
 
You know, it'd be hilarious to see an omake where The Girls (Jaina, Ren, Sheila, etcetera -- and Alexstrasza for kicks) all have a "girl time" discussions, chatting and giggling about their blokes and women stuff, etcetera.

Meanwhile, our poor protagonist and company look on from a distance, feeling dread in their hearts as their friends and spouses occasionally glance at them, giggling or scowling.

All males fear girl time. ;)
I don't want this fic to fail the Bechdel test more than it already does.
 
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Shifting my weapon to a sword, I blocked the first lunge, stepping forward to chop at him. Screaming, he stumbled back.

The second jumped in and I dodged back, avoiding his slash.

Casting a frost nova, I forced them back as it spread across the ground, frosting their fallen and screaming leader over.

From out of nowhere, Rengosa swooped in, snatching the right one from the ground and pulled up hard, sending it flying over the edge down towards the city far below before beating her wings again, starting to circle far above.

The last mobile one rushed me, thrusting towards my chest.

Blocking with my broadsword, I batted his lighter weapon to the side before stabbing him in the face with my rapier.

It drove him off but didn't kill him.

This one was more careful, slowly backing away and out of range. But he stayed close enough not to give Rengosa a good pass.

Now that's just unsporting.

So, I channelled my magic and set it on fire with a fireball.

That had an effect. The wraith screamed and dropped its sword, running away. Yeah, that worked.

Didn't like that, did you?

I sent another fireball at the already screaming leader who cut my Rengosa, making the twitching and flailing wraith scream louder.

Oh for...

Pulling a cube from a pocket, I tossed it over next to him and the sound disappeared. Sound bubbles, so useful. Of course, mostly for when we stay at inns, but still.

Ren circled again and came in for a landing, her wings beating hard as she settled down before stumbling slightly.

"Ren!"

I rushed up to her. "What's wrong?"

She shook her head, "Leg feels weak," she admitted and nuzzled at my chest. "Side hurts a little."

Patting the side of her neck, I moved around to look. It was… like a line, a scar where he had cut her.

Like she had been hurt years ago.

Casting a healing touch spell, I ran my hand along her side. "This feel better?"

Rengosa shook her head. "A little. Not a lot."

"…Never was that good with healing spells," I sighed and stroked her side. "We need an expert."

She shook her head again and nuzzled at my chest. "I'm fine."

"Fine? It killed you!"

Ren sighed and raised her head to press her nose against my cheek. "I'm fine, Atregos. I'm alive, anything else, Zrazta can fix when we get home."

I kissed the tip of her nose. "How's the leg?"

"Already feeling a little better."

"Liar."

That got a small laugh from her and she bumped her nose against my chest. "Not lying. Hurts less than when I reformed from the Soulstone."

Resting my forehead against the side of her horn, I scratched softly beneath her eyes. "We're leaving this place. Going back home."

She shook her head. "No, we'll leave this place and keep looking for something interesting. I'm fine."

Shifting back slightly, I looked into her eyes. "Are you certain?"

She growled at me and I took that as a yes.

Stroking her along the snout, I nodded and sighed. "Fine. I would like to stab the one who did this to you in the eyes."

"I think you already did." she purred and looked over at the burning and silently flailing wraith thing.

I shook my head. "That thing isn't in charge. It's a weapon, nothing more. I would like to stab the one who directed it here in the eyes."

Rengosa turned her head and looked out over the plains and I turned to look too. Cavalry were hitting the so-called Orcs from the flank.

"Effective," Ren commented and took a step forward, carefully putting her weight on her right front leg, "Won't win the battle on its own, but it's going to hurt the Orcs."

I nodded. "They will. But… those mammoth things approaching… they don't have anything against them."

Ren nuzzled at my shoulder. "Let's do something about that then. I want one of those as a summon, anyway."

"…And it'll fuck with the plans of whoever this Dark Lord is," I admitted and scratched beneath her chin. "Get back in your armour and make a new soulstone."

She purred at me and bumped her nose at the back of my neck before moving over to her fallen armour.




AN\\ Big barrel of thanks to Grey Rook for betaing this section.
 
Good news, Atregos!
The commander in question is all eye, so it shouldn't be too hard to stab him in it!
Well, so long as you can make sure his gaze doesn't flay your soul or anything...
 
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