Chloe Sullivan
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You mean sniping my response to claude with wordswordswords about not-what-claude-and-I-were-arguing-about, I presume?Just yesterday I wrote a one thousand word response to you that did include 'actual details,' as I have done numerous times in the past. I have exerted considerable efforts over the years to respond to your assertions with extensive arguments based on a variety of forms of evidence, which is clearly evidenced in those many posts. You may not agree that I have. That's fine. But I have.
yes, it's a lovely essay you wrote that has some points in it. never mind the points are unconnected to what was a reply to someone else's different points and are functionally a giant strawman.
Again, I await a rebuttal. Not a rant on "here, let me snip some things you say out of context and paint you as a giant idiot by expounding on why (stuff you didn't actually argue against in the quoted post) is obviously correct."
My actual point was here:
Watsonianly speaking, "the new revival series keep giving your (supposedly fringe ideology [1]) major characters as mouthpieces and you keep getting most of the cool new designs" is exactly what 'ideological success and prominence' looks like.
the South may have lost the US civil war, but Jim Crow sure won the subsequent peace for quite a long time.
Zeon should be dead. It should be discredited. It's UC years-after-CCA. But they keep coming back to this well and that's both bad culture and bad writing. Nothing about Hathaway's Flash (from the extended summary I read of the novel) requires bringing up Char Azanble as a positive role model. Char as depicted in CCA would say he's not a legacy to want or emulate.
And yet it's in the fucking trailer.
Zeon is the iconography and ideology that just wont stop being brought up in a positive light (hello Marida and the space chapel) 40 RL years after they were explicitly presented as the faction that genocided half of all humanity.
Yes, they are ultimately presented as the bad guys, but it's still bad civ, because Neo-Nazis un-ironically love Man in the High Castle and American History X.
The mere fact that they can't get over Zeon after 40 years is sketchy as fuck. Including Zeon ideals at all, even if on the losing end, is not condemnation at this point, it's promotion. For a ideology with deliberate parallels to Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan's worst atrocities.
This distresses people. And the fact that you deny that people should be distressed is sketch as fuck too, bee tee dubs.
EDIT: Side note:
from what I recall from reading the Hathaway's Flash summary on an old gundam fansite, Hathaway does not in fact take up Char's legacy in the novel. Mafty has a deliberate "Folk Hero Outlaw" aesthetic, which is why I said in an earlier post that Robin Hood in Giant robos would be rad.
So, y'know what, i'll hold out some hope the trailer just had a dumb line.
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