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Liberté, Egalité, and Fraternité; Assassins Creed Unity

Owen said:
when they've actually got a pretty good track record on equality
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That's exactly why this is so incredibly disappointing and bewildering. Activision and Dice not including women is just par for the course, but when you have had playable women assassins in previous iterations of multiplayer and Liberations in the same franchise but not a hint of playable women in your new co-op mode, are we supposed to just let backsliding go?
 
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Owen said:
Except Activision and DICE have said exactly the same thing about including female characters options in their games and no-one appeared to give a crap. Yet Ubisoft, whose last game was played solely from female perspective, and regularly does include female characters in it's multiplayer normally gets blasted because they didn't have the resources to do it in this game, and admitted it. Not exactly in the most sensible way, I'll agree, but they at least said it's something they'd very much like to do, but weren't able to.
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It has been confirmed by multiple actual game developers that Ubisoft is blatantly talking shit about this. To the point of outright confirming that Unity originally HAD a playable female character choice, Ubisoft decided to REMOVE THAT OPTION and then pretend it was too hard to make.
 
JC Interrupted said:
It has been confirmed by multiple actual game developers that Ubisoft is blatantly talking shit about this. To the point of outright confirming that Unity originally HAD a playable female character choice, Ubisoft decided to REMOVE THAT OPTION and then pretend it was too hard to make.
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That's... might actually be when they declared BS on the old multiplayer method and decided to make it more like Watch_Dogs' and the Souls series'. And you know what? That's fine. That's totally fine. But there's no reason to scrap the old multiplayer that people had enjoyed. Having two options of multiplayers, the newer in-and-out way and the older arena-esque way would be really nice, I think.

I admit that I'm speaking on assumption here, but from that information, it's quite the possibility.
 
If they can't put in the effort to change a character model slightly (you don't even need a sexy walk animation, imagine that!) then why should I see that as anything other than incompetence on their part.

How should I have any hype for the game if I know the company making it will avoid doing cool things if they're inconvenient?
 
I'm not going to buy it until they have a playable female characters. Indeed I am extremely annoyed that female characters are apparently the last thing they did.
 
I'm hoping that they don't have those dumbass tailing missions. Or at least put checkpoints or save states or something in there so they're less annoying.
 
Owen said:
Except Activision and DICE have said exactly the same thing
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And nobody was surprised, because absolutely nobody expects Activision nor DICE to have a smidgen of representation in their games. Ubisoft, on the other hand, actually has a fairly decent track record when it comes to diversity (As their little company tagline is constantly reminding us like Fox News insisting that they're fair and balanced) so when they suddenly take a step back and go "whoa guys, we can't include women because modeling and animating boob jiggle is too hard" it's a relatively huge skip backwards for them.

Doubly so when a former Ubisoft head developer (Whose resume includes modeling and animating their sole female lead) looks at their statement and says "yeah that's horseshit".
 
Gaius Marius said:
Wait.. You're telling me Assassins creed has multiplayer?
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Yes, as it turns out that second disk they keep including is not, in fact, a manufacturing error as I suspected, but contains the code for an Assassin's Creed game mode involving other, actual, real, actual people. Needless to say I was shocked and appalled at this discovery.
 
If you always appear as Arno on your screen I fail to see the problem of mixing male and female assassins into the fray. It's not like Connor and Aveline had more then a handful of unique animations anyway, and no player is gonna notice that your female assassins are the same height as your male ones. And the players themselves won't notice that their character is a chick, they'll be playing as Arno in their own game.

It just saddens me that the most famous assassin of the French Revolution apparently never existed. Either that or she just kinda stood there while Arno did the deed and then let her go to a meeting with Madam Guillotine for it.

If Ubisoft tries to pull that particular trick in the vein of the Paul Revere sequence in Ass Creed III, their offices will be set on fire before the sun sets on the day after launch.
 
I eventually warmed up to the game after initial disappointment and Ubi's PR fumbles. Then it turned out that it was going to be pretty cheap for a new release game down here, and my housemate was willing to shell out the extra for a collector's edition and give me the DLC, so I decided on picking it up. Should be out in Australia in two days.
 
So, what's the selling point for this game? The setting? Is everything else the same old?

I like AC IV, but if you remove the pirate and ship parts, I'm not sure I would really like what is left.
I feel more like an assassin playing as a stealth character in Skyrim, than in AC IV.
 
It's mechanically a lot different. Like it obviously has a lot of the AssCreed identifiers, like a climbing and free-running around a detailed historical environment, but the actual mechanics of free-running have been changed up pretty substantially, combat has been retooled, the historical environment is bigger and more detailed than ever before, there's been pretty substantial changes to the stealth mechanics (by raiding from Splinter Cell lol), there's been an introduction of co-operative play, there's a pretty substantial dress-up function to customise the player character, you can get a katana etc
 
Ford Prefect said:
It's mechanically a lot different. Like it obviously has a lot of the AssCreed identifiers, like a climbing and free-running around a detailed historical environment, but the actual mechanics of free-running have been changed up pretty substantially, combat has been retooled, the historical environment is bigger and more detailed than ever before, there's been pretty substantial changes to the stealth mechanics (by raiding from Splinter Cell lol), there's been an introduction of co-operative play, there's a pretty substantial dress-up function to customise the player character, you can get a katana etc
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re: Free Running: Yeah, from the trailer I saw it isn't just the 'jump from a really frickin' high place and hope for a hay bale' anymore. Now you're scaling down high buildings at fast speeds, which is sure to cause a few oops until we manage to get it right.

re: Stealth: When you have to steal, steal from the best. :D Or lat least a franchise related to one you own. ;)

Also, according to the latest trailer set, we're taking a side trip into Occupied Paris during WWII, and I would like to know how the heck that happened!

And one more thing, with all the cool stuff we usually get with a Season Pass, we're also finally getting a (stand alone) game with everyone's favorite Chinese Assassin, Shao Jun. :D
 
maskedanddanger said:
If you always appear as Arno on your screen I fail to see the problem of mixing male and female assassins into the fray. It's not like Connor and Aveline had more then a handful of unique animations anyway, and no player is gonna notice that your female assassins are the same height as your male ones. And the players themselves won't notice that their character is a chick, they'll be playing as Arno in their own game.

It just saddens me that the most famous assassin of the French Revolution apparently never existed. Either that or she just kinda stood there while Arno did the deed and then let her go to a meeting with Madam Guillotine for it.

If Ubisoft tries to pull that particular trick in the vein of the Paul Revere sequence in Ass Creed III, their offices will be set on fire before the sun sets on the day after launch.
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Sooooo impressive. -_-
Killing a sickly invalid that's largely confined to a medicinal bathtub isn't the stuff that makes legendary assassins. -_-
And I don't think Ubisoft will have Arno take out Marat either.
 
And the assassination of Franz Ferdinand was an attack from surprise on a guy stuck in a car. But who cares? That doesn't mean it wasn't any less important.
 
Ford Prefect said:
And the assassination of Franz Ferdinand was an attack from surprise on a guy stuck in a car. But who cares? That doesn't mean it wasn't any less important.
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Killing Marat did exactly squat.
He was of course an important journalist but that was about it. He had no actual power within the new government and his illness had whittled away what little power he had.

Now if she had gone after Robespierre....
 
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