Let's Play Every Final Fantasy Game In Order Of Release [Now Finished: Final Fantasy Tactics]

Still a spoiler, and a wildly unnecessary one - we don't need to try and point Omi at the Correct, Guide-Endorsed Option for literally every possible choice. At that point he could just as well use a guide himself, which is explicitly not the intended style of the LP. I'd suggest purging the spoilers from the relevant posts and taking any further discussion on the matter to the spoiler thread.
 
When I called Edea "evil dommy mommy" I never realized I was being almost literal.

Oh god I just realized we narrowly dodged a bullet in having someone in the main party thirsting over Edea because hoo boy can you imagine this bombshell dropping with something like that on top of of everything else?

Thankfully we don't have to worry about any of that, and can just move on - wait hang on what was Seifer's motivation again? Oh god please don't tell me he was talking about his Romantic Dream in that sense, let me be wildly off base with this one.
 
Oh god I just realized we narrowly dodged a bullet in having someone in the main party thirsting over Edea because hoo boy can you imagine this bombshell dropping with something like that on top of of everything else?

Thankfully we don't have to worry about any of that, and can just move on - wait hang on what was Seifer's motivation again? Oh god please don't tell me he was talking about his Romantic Dream in that sense, let me be wildly off base with this one.
Setting Seifer aside for a moment because I ain't got time to unpack that, there is one character in the party who (as far as we currently know) doesn't have a prior relationship to Edea as a mother figure and so for whom it would be, hypothetically, okay (at least from their direction, y'know, don't do underaged relationships) to thirst after Edea, and that would be...

Hm.



Every single post since my last update only gets more cursed.
 
Setting Seifer aside for a moment because I ain't got time to unpack that, there is one character in the party who (as far as we currently know) doesn't have a prior relationship to Edea as a mother figure and so for whom it would be, hypothetically, okay (at least from their direction, y'know, don't do underaged relationships) to thirst after Edea, and that would be...

Hm.



Every single post since my last update only gets more cursed.

Oh dear, that is. Hm.

That post sure has been thought provoking but I would maybe like some of those thoughts to stop.

Irvine'd be the funniest option. He's even the right archetype!

Irvine is out of the running as the only person who remembers Edea is basically mom.

On the other hand, he could certainly react to someone else doing so with baffled horror, while the rest of the party just kind of wonders why he's developed standards all of a sudden.
 
Squall thought it was strange that he heard someone say Dommy Mommy and saw Irvine rush for a trash can but then he just had a long monologue in his head and felt smug about it.
 
First: "Irvine is Official Trending Fuc Boi. It is law." *slaps table*
Later: *imagining Irvine despairing in solitude from rampant Dommy Mommy's sexualization* "Heheheheheheh."
 
First: "Irvine is Official Trending Fuc Boi. It is law." *slaps table*
Later: *imagining Irvine despairing in solitude from rampant Dommy Mommy's sexualization* "Heheheheheheh."
Irvine, In His Head: "This is my punishment for hitting on girls so much, isn't it..."
Irvine, Still In His Head: "Oh well, in for one gil, in for a hundred."

Irvine, Out Loud: "So, Rinoa, want to go for coffee some time?"
 
there is one character in the party who (as far as we currently know) doesn't have a prior relationship to Edea as a mother figure

In before Rinoa is Edea's long-lost biological daughter.

Wait, you say, we already know who Rinoa's mom is? Well, uh... look over there! *flees*

-Morgan.
 
So, I certainly hadn't forgotten this big twist.
But, uh. Reading the update, I did realize an aspect I don't think I had before:
Quistis: I thought it was romantic love, but I guess what I was feeling for Squall was really just being his big sister, or trying to be.
Irvine: Hey, it's not like there's anything weird about finding your adoptive sibling as smoking hot as the white phosphorus she drops! [grins and winks at Selphie]
Irvine: ...Why is everyone looking at me like that?
Irvine: That's not weird, right? ...Right?
Irvine: ...
Irvine: YOU KNOW WHAT HOW ABOUT WE ALL GO OUT AND SUMMON OUR GFS A WHOLE BUNCH UNTIL WE COMPLETELY FORGET ABOUT THIS CONVERSATION DOESN'T THAT SOUND FUN?

Omicron said:
She doesn't share the weird memory loss and she might have been able to help figure out what was going on!
...Actually. Actually, thinking about it, there's another potential layer to The Time Irvine's been having. Namely, him wondering if he's forgotten anything. Sure, he hasn't used GFs until very recently... so far as he remembers. But he has firsthand experience that GFs (if it's GFs, not something else, and were it some unknown something else that'd put his memories even more in doubt) can apparently make people forget very significant parts of their lives. How sure can he be that he didn't use a GF at some point, and then lose the memory of that? How sure can he be that he and Rinoa didn't know each other as children, when the others seem so confident that they didn't know him?

And then he's sent to kill Matron, who has Seifer with her, except now Matron's taken over a country and murdered a major political figure in front of a cheering crowd, which does not fit with his memory of her.

And he seems to be the only one who sees anything odd about any of this, and... what if that means that it's not that the others have all lost memories, but that he has false ones?

...So yeah I think Irvine may have been experiencing this game primarily as psychological horror so far.

SolipsistSerpent said:
Sadly, I'm leaning on the former explanation right now, but maybe I'll be proven wrong. Even if we say it's manipulation, what, did Cid realize he didn't have enough orphans from the orphanage in the Garden and bribe Zell's foster family to pressure him to become a SEED? It gets pretty convoluted.
...And that got me thinking along a path that eventually led to me wondering: how much can Ellone see through time and space? Because she can send people's minds and to some extent their magic back from the present to the past, in a way people in the past can notice, either actually changing the past or enacting a time loop -- but how does she target it? Most of what we've seen her doing with that so far has been sending one group of people she's not with back to other people she wasn't with at the time and doesn't seem to have been with in the present at the time she did the sending, either. So for that first time, for instance, how did she pick out the three on that train and the three in that forest? Does she just go by names and dates, and have no idea what the people are like or what they've doing beyond what she picks up by mundane means, or does she have some ability to scry the present and past? Is she even limited in that ability to the currently active timeline, or also other ways things could have gone and the results thereof?

Omicron said:
...
And Rinoa's plan for dealing with Sorceress Edea was to...
Sneak in and see her privately, and give her a gift, which was supposed to seal her powers but presumably not further harm her and in fact be removable later.
...WELL NOW MY BRAIN'S INTERPRETING THAT THANKS. :D

Every single post since my last update only gets more cursed.
...I mean, on the positive side, at least the Sorceress did pretty explicitly rebuff Rinoa, even in that interpretation? That's something?
EDEA(?): ...Kid I am literally old enough to be your mother and you are young enough where that is not okay. I mean I'm about to publicly murder a guy, coup his country, and start sending my new army out to burn down towns of pacifists, but there are lines.

Morganite said:
Wait, you say, we already know who Rinoa's mom is? Well, uh... look over there! *flees*
I mean, we thought we knew who Zell's biological mother was, too, didn't we?

And they're not the characters who look the most different from each other.

...Of course this speculation makes the immediately above speculation EVEN WORSE. SO THAT'S GREAT, ISN'T IT? :D
 
..Actually. Actually, thinking about it, there's another potential layer to The Time Irvine's been having. Namely, him wondering if he's forgotten anything. Sure, he hasn't used GFs until very recently... so far as he remembers. But he has firsthand experience that GFs (if it's GFs, not something else, and were it some unknown something else that'd put his memories even more in doubt) can apparently make people forget very significant parts of their lives. How sure can he be that he didn't use a GF at some point, and then lose the memory of that? How sure can he be that he and Rinoa didn't know each other as children, when the others seem so confident that they didn't know him?

And then he's sent to kill Matron, who has Seifer with her, except now Matron's taken over a country and murdered a major political figure in front of a cheering crowd, which does not fit with his memory of her.

And he seems to be the only one who sees anything odd about any of this, and... what if that means that it's not that the others have all lost memories, but that he has false ones?

...So yeah I think Irvine may have been experiencing this game primarily as psychological horror so far.
... you know, this opens up the option of:
"I do not know if I forgot anyone at the orphanage recently, and I remember the rest of us, so maybe Rinoa will chip in now how she grew up there too? There has to be a reason she's here if the rest of us have one."
 
So, I certainly hadn't forgotten this big twist.
But, uh. Reading the update, I did realize an aspect I don't think I had before:
Quistis: I thought it was romantic love, but I guess what I was feeling for Squall was really just being his big sister, or trying to be.
Irvine: Hey, it's not like there's anything weird about finding your adoptive sibling as smoking hot as the white phosphorus she drops! [grins and winks at Selphie]
Irvine: ...Why is everyone looking at me like that?
so what's your opinion on catradora
 
Setting Seifer aside for a moment because I ain't got time to unpack that, there is one character in the party who (as far as we currently know) doesn't have a prior relationship to Edea as a mother figure and so for whom it would be, hypothetically, okay (at least from their direction, y'know, don't do underaged relationships) to thirst after Edea, and that would be...

Hm.



Every single post since my last update only gets more cursed.
"Hey Squall, is it bad of me to say that your mom's kind of... hot"
"(Time to repress the last five minutes like i did my whole childhood)"
"I'm just saying, I could call her mommy too. You know. In the name of team solidarity."
"(Aaaaaaahhhhhhh)"
 
The time everyone finally meet it's going to be... something.

Edea: "What the absolute shit."
Irvine: "I'm sorry, I couldn't stop the brainrot in these fucks."
 
Omicron said:
so what's your opinion on catradora
...
Well I don't recall thinking of the ship in that light before. :D


Also, on the "Edea is Rinoa's biomom" hypothesis, something I thought of earlier today:
Cid gave Rinoa special treatment, in terms of hiring SeeD, when she showed up in person to ask, didn't he?
Cid, who's perhaps the most likely candidate for her biodad in that hypothesis and among the most qualified to spot her resemblance to both him and his wife?
 
Also, on the "Edea is Rinoa's biomom" hypothesis, something I thought of earlier today:

Technically, it was a shitpost, not a hypothesis...

Cid gave Rinoa special treatment, in terms of hiring SeeD, when she showed up in person to ask, didn't he?
Cid, who's perhaps the most likely candidate for her biodad in that hypothesis and among the most qualified to spot her resemblance to both him and his wife?

... But now I'm starting to wonder.

-Morgan. o.@;;;;;
 
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