Wait. They named the ship the Shera and not once do they try to bathe it in the nuclear hellfire of Bahumut-Sin's Flare?! What the fuck?!
Let's Play Every Final Fantasy Game In Order Of Release [Now Finished: Final Fantasy Tactics]
- Thread starter Omicron
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Spectral Waltz
Scatterbrained Writer
- Location
- Walking the Endless Corridors
For some reason I have a very distinct memory of the airship in the old subs of the movie I watched way back in the day being called the Sfida and not the Shera. No idea why that could be...
EDIT: Apparently it's the name of an airship in Baten Kaitos: Origins so maybe I'm just losing my mind.
EDIT: Apparently it's the name of an airship in Baten Kaitos: Origins so maybe I'm just losing my mind.
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FourthWall
Love & Destroy
- Location
- Chiraq
It would be a funny bit (to me) if Cloud ended up in the Half-Dead White Room one time to find his headmate, Zack licking the godhood from between Aeri[ ]'s thighs. 
If you ensured that she retains her original gremlin-ness you could get some great gags out of an Aerith that's always watching and ready to bully you with words.
Having not bothered to ever watch AC, based entirely on this review, I'm pretty sure that Spirits Within was not only a better movie, but quite possibly a better Final Fantasy story, as well.
That is kind of impressive, actually.
out of curiosity, any particular reason you're routinely calling AC a game?
Man, but the movie really wants us to know what a fuckboy Cid is.
Do you figure the Shera has finally killed Shera and got her name in commiseration?
See, Omi, the canon party got all the Ribbons in the game, unlike someone I could name.
And on that note, once more with feeling, for the last time:
Man, but the movie really wants us to know what a fuckboy Cid is.
Do you figure the Shera has finally killed Shera and got her name in commiseration?
See, Omi, the canon party got all the Ribbons in the game, unlike someone I could name.
And on that note, once more with feeling, for the last time:
Omegahugger
Inattentive Idiot
Look, I can appreciate an inherently dysfunctional couple that will inevitably end in homicide as much as the next guy, but when people say they like to ship these two characters, this isn't what they mean!
So you're saying that Advent Children is directly responsible for not just RWBY, but Number None as well?
... Yeah, I don't think this surprised anyone.
The shippers in the audience may note that Cloud saying the "has nothing he doesn't cherish" must by necessity include Sephiroth as well.
Do with this information whatever you please.
I've been behind this thread for quite a while, and it happens with backlogged things, I keep avoiding to catch up because there's a lot to catch up leading to even longer backlog to catch up. But when I saw 'FF7 Special: Advent Children' I just had to look. Glad I did LOL. Omicron rants still don't disappoint
All problems aside, I love AC. Reading this review, even while Omi explanosited the issues with AC to which I was 'hmm, mmm, that's valid', I can't resist having goofy smile at the screenshots and the memory it brings. Also, I genuinely like that ending.
I feel like watching the movie again actually.
Random thought: did they named the sequel Advent Children (AC) because they want to make it cool?
Anyway, waiting for FF8. Actually the first FF I invest significant time playing ... and in all honestly, the only one that I've send the ending through actual game (and even that was actually largely my friend's playing with me sideseating)
All problems aside, I love AC. Reading this review, even while Omi explanosited the issues with AC to which I was 'hmm, mmm, that's valid', I can't resist having goofy smile at the screenshots and the memory it brings. Also, I genuinely like that ending.
I feel like watching the movie again actually.
Random thought: did they named the sequel Advent Children (AC) because they want to make it cool?
Anyway, waiting for FF8. Actually the first FF I invest significant time playing ... and in all honestly, the only one that I've send the ending through actual game (and even that was actually largely my friend's playing with me sideseating)
- Location
- England, unfortunately.
- Pronouns
- She/They
I, knowing nothing of 8 except Junction System and Triple Triad memes, along with it being the first to attempt what I call the Sky+Sword cargo cult, am very excited to see where this goes.
- Location
- Amman, Jordan
- Pronouns
- He/Him/His
Zack: "Uh, can you come back some other time, buddy? You kind of caught us at a wrong moment..."It would be a funny bit (to me) if Cloud ended up in the Half-Dead White Room one time to find his headmate, Zack licking the godhood from between Aeri[ ]'s thighs.
SeaSirocco
Formerly 'Sanae Aran' / Aspiring Artist
- Location
- The Seaside
- Pronouns
- She/Her
It's probably of note that the lyrics to Advent: One Winged Angel are drastically different from the original FF7.
Square Enix Music Online :: Final Fantasy VII Advent Children - Advent: One Winged Angel
Square Enix Music Online :: Final Fantasy VII - One Winged Angel
What does this say about Sephiroth? Something something MOTHER, something something I will never be a memory.
Square Enix Music Online :: Final Fantasy VII Advent Children - Advent: One Winged Angel
Square Enix Music Online :: Final Fantasy VII - One Winged Angel
What does this say about Sephiroth? Something something MOTHER, something something I will never be a memory.
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Kadmus
Dragon's teeth are surprisingly hard to sow
- Location
- Devon
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- He/Him
For all those people commenting on how 'young' Cid looks: he's 34 here. The man's not even close to middle aged; his 'grizzled dickhead' act is exactly as much of an act as every over-cynical 20-something's you've ever met. He's the same age I am.
If anything, the guy looks too old, mostly because he's a smoker!
If anything, the guy looks too old, mostly because he's a smoker!
SolipsistSerpent
Endlessly Devouring
Literally no one. They should have axed every scene of the kid except the part where he's kidnapped in the van and later rescued and had him just be a nameless street urchin.
I have mixed feelings about Advent Children, but overall I think I come negative. I liked Sephiroth's voice acting, his line about taking the planet as his space ship, I liked some of the fight scenes a lot (but not all of them) and ... that's it as far as positives go. Oh wait, Cloud being a deliveryman was a little clever. Now that's it. The Negatives list is a lot longer, including Cloud's character backslide, Tifa losing that fight, the way it treats Aerith, and even stretches of the film being actually kind of boring, if I remember right, just to name a few. But I only watched it once when it was new, so maybe it'd be better on a rewatch. The fact I've never felt like doing that is damning enough, though.
I also feel like it relies way too much on nostalgia for the game, while not even taking advantage of that nostalgia in a good way other than with Sephiroth, oddly. He's realized here in a way most of the other characters aren't. Cloud almost is, too, but suffers from the character backslide. Practically everyone else felt like a cameo. Vincent and Yuffie were at least good cameos, I suppose.
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deadcrystal
Slaaneshi Cultist
- Location
- The Warp
For a movie with lackluster character work, this is a scene that shows us the writers are at least capable of some genuinely great comedy. Does it make sense that Rufus is not only alive, but largely uninjured? No, but screw it, it's worth it for this moment.
The thing that gets me is how thoughtless the throw is. He's not yeeting it at full to get it away from Kadaj, he's not throwing it away in disgust, he just idly drops it over to the side, as if he isn't even paying it attention.
It's funny, because my read of this is the opposite. It's yet more 'Sephiroth thinks he has subsumed Jenova, and is allowed this delusion because it doesn't matter' Jenova emulating Sephiroth.exe as you have discussed. Jenova as the Thing travelling from planet to planet subsuming all life, propagating like a virus. And what is Sephiroth's ambition here? Why, by some strange coincidence it's to do exactly what Jenova wants to do.
Zap Rowsdower
Ex-cultist vagrant
- Location
- Bright lights, big city
- Pronouns
- He/Him
I suppose the writers were consistent with him being aware he's just there for fanservice. Shout out to Dissidia, where he literally refers to messing with and fighting Cloud not as something he's even passionate about anymore, but something he does to "fulfill an obligation".
Connelly
As useless as a penguin with mittens
- Location
- Salamanca, Spain
... I had thoughts about what I was reading (barring the supposed shiny visuals). Until I got here. Memories got fuzzy for a moment, but I remember a distinctive and furious storm of "fuck yous" directed at the general direction of the film and the creators. This unintellectual climatology didn't get better as I kept reading. And that bit about Rufus? Not his own reveal but the box. I don't think I've ever heard of a movie being so actively and brainless dumb for no reason at all.
Screw this crap. Screw the whole thing most vigorously and hatefully. And that's the most polite and concise that I got to say.
I still remember when everyone made a sport of putting SW down while jerking off to AC. There's no justice in this universe.
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- Location
- Phoenix
Prepare to AFK and run from every single non-mandatory fight.
Egleris
Vagrant Dragon
- Location
- Italy
Having seen Spirits Within in theaters (and having bought the original Advent Children when it first came out), I disagree; they're equally bad, only Spirits Within didn't have any nostalgia cameo and any good-looking fight. The plot of Spirits Within is, admittedly, slightly more coherent, but it's still a bad movie, and unlike Advent Children, it's also boring. Advent Children's spectacle isn't much, but at least it's there, whereas Spirit Within doesn't even has that.
I disagree; we could have had the same scene with Reeve, who would have both made more sense AND have been more in character doing something like that, and it'd have been better, while also giving one of the members of the team a way to have an important role and more screen-time.
Honestly, it's not hard to think of ways to keep the few good things Advent Children managed to offer while making a much better movie that also holds fidelity with the original game, but to do that, they'd have had to let go of a lot of the nostalgia they wanted to include. I could see ways that Sephiroth could have still been in it, in a fashion (Hojo is the source of all evil, he'd have been the perfect justification for any nonsense they wanted to include), but not Aerith, nor keeping up the "love triangle", nor making Midgar the centerpiece of the action, because none of that would have been faithful to the plot of Final Fantasy VII. And that's why the movie is what it is: a disappointment.
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Zap Rowsdower
Ex-cultist vagrant
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- Bright lights, big city
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- He/Him
Keeping Zack and Aerith without making them ghost gods is easy: have them appear in Motivational Flashbacks where Cloud recalls something one of 'em said when he's on the ropes to motivate his second wind.
FourthWall
Love & Destroy
- Location
- Chiraq
It's gotta suck wanting to be a god but knowing you're a ratings stunt.
kairuf
(Verified Kaiger) (Not the Siberian)
- Location
- The land of Potatoes
At risk of quoting myself,
In Crisis Core, Zack is referred to as Zack the puppy by his mentor. And over the course of the game he matures into (dare I say it) a Wolf.
I think it is kind of a reverse of your take, that no matter how alone Cloud thinks he is, he always has people that are with him, even if he refuses to acknowledge them.
Xero Key
Flying high, spinning webs!
But it does explain his oddly friendly attitude in ReMake. This is something new now.
- Location
- Brittany, France
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- He/Him
This is the best gun of all time, I am officially no longer a Sword Guy, this has converted me to revolversthe Cerberus is absolutely hilarious, because you might wonder "how would a triple-barrel revolver work"?
THREE CYLINDERS, GAMER. THREE HAMMERS, THREE EJECTOR RODS, ONE TRIGGER, VINCENT SPENDS 98% OF HIS TIME IN COMBAT RELOADING AND HE WILL NOT CHANGE FOR ANYTHING
buy me a ps5
I genuinely had to rewind that scene like three times trying to figure out if I was supposed to read those lines and the weird cuts following it as meant to suggest Reno and Rude blew themselves up alongside Loz and Yazoo, because it seemed like the implication? But no, they're fine.
A baffling directing decision.
idgiI liked this rant better when it was about The Empire Strikes Back
Hmmm.
Spirits Within premiere: July 2, 2001
FFX release date: July 19, 2001
Alright. After FFIX and before we move to FFX, we will do a Spirits Within Special Feature.
I apologize to everyone, but some suffering is necessary.
Yes: I have been writing several hundred thousand words about video game and have never done a movie Let's Watch before, so my brain keeps struggling to adjust with the fact that I'm talking about a movie, not a game. And occasionally overcorrecting and referring to FF7, the game, as a movie. It's annoying.
ZerbanDaGreat
Daemon Noble of D E M O G R A P H I C S
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- They/them
I'll buy you a PS2 and a copy of Dirge of Cerberus, fucker, don't you test me.
Y'all about to realise that there's a difference between the kind of mid that's the result of peak fiction+abyss fiction and the kind of mid where you live in Purgatory's waiting room for 106 minutes. The main difference is that Spirits Within is where Bioware stole Mass Effect's entire aesthetic from.