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There's a lot of potential candidates TBH.
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Let's Play Every Final Fantasy Game In Order Of Release [Now Playing: Final Fantasy IX]
- Thread starter Omicron
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There's a lot of potential candidates TBH.
"only" "one" with a summon animation "longer" than a minute...
That's not actually a relief.
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FF7's notorious for its summon times for a reason. I'm just saying it doesn't get much worse than this.
And Bahamut-Z's plenty useful in that -- like all the Bahamut summons -- he no-sells magic defence and Reflect (and sometimes doesn't trigger counterattack scripts, though I believe that depends on the opponent).
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Hmmm, Bahamut coming from the moon? That sounds awfully familiar.
This update really crystallizes my mixed feelings on Cid. On the one hand 'man who's bitter Shinra took his life goal from him' is, in theory, a great addition to the story. On the other hand he gets very little screen time with Shinra to show the bitterness, and the devs resort to abuse instead. He's ultimately hamstrung by how late in the game you meet him.
There's definitely a world in which Cid is found in Kalm or Junon as a more despondent character, that grows to a more active anti-Shinra role as the game goes on. That would put him in contrast to Barret who becomes less focused on Shinra and more on the planet. That would probably require more late disk 1 Shinra interactions though.
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An amusing fact about this bit, if you punch in the right code the very first time, Cid gives some dialogue wondering how the hell you knew the code.
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... he's talking to himself, trying to remember the code. "Did you use Menu? I'm pretty sure you didn't," therefore means "I'm pretty sure Menu wasn't part of the code".
Thozmp
Gets my kicks above the waistline, Sunshine.
I choose to believe that Shera did not in fact fix the auto-pilot on time, and decided to fix it while riding the rocket up. And if it kills her, well, it isn't like this is the first time she's tried this.
Like, I'm half convinced that Shera was in love with the rocket itself, and wanted to be with her love when it died.
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Just one throwaway line about how Shinra's plan wouldn't fully destroy the meteor, that instead it'd merely shatter and devastate the surface of the planet, but who cares Sector 0 would survive intact, would have made things make so much more sense.
And since it looks like the sound effect has been cast as Sir Not Appearing In ThisFilm Let's Play, I found it on YouTube for everyone's listening pleasure.
View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Lkw5MeO-VWw
And since it looks like the sound effect has been cast as Sir Not Appearing In This
View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Lkw5MeO-VWw
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MiskWisk
Hoot
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Oh... wow.
You know, it says how little impact Rude has at this point I legitimately forgot he even turns up here.
Hoo boy.
Look at it this way Omi, at least you won't be made physically ill by these superbosses.
Absolute Virtue is in XI after all.
Kemayo
A Certain Cheerful Tone Of Voice
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- Missouri
And whether Omicron will have the patience to do the entire chocobo breeding / racing minigame to get Knights of the Round, well, I'd forgive them if they skipped it. 😂
...also, with the summon time for that one, I think Omnislash has higher DPS overall?
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That summon is only to be used if you need a bathroom break mid battle.
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It's funny to see Cid talk about how the planet is so tiny, since we were having the same discussion way back when Omi was on Disc 1 ~
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Some Limit Breaks flat out have the best DPS in the game, yeah. Not just Omnislash -- there's a number of high multi-hit attacks that can put out huge amounts of damage. I believe straight up physical attacks can actually do more damage faster than even the ultimate summon, at least against a single target, even once you consider the ATB recharge, especially if you work out ways to get more than one per charge. It's just that that means you're giving the enemy more actions.
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Egleris
Vagrant Dragon
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I'm really curious about what you've been doing here; looking forwards to hear about your explorations.
It's technically possible to beat Emerald Weapon under the 20 minutes time limit - it might have 1 million HP, but it has very low defenses for a boss - but you'd need to know in advance what you're doing, to put the strategy into effect with minimal time wasted, and of course it requires a minimum threshold of power (in the forms of strength, durability and abilities) that you don't have yet.
In general, most fights with a superboss in Final Fantasy, from this game on, are likely to take between thirty and forty minutes, although that's for a winning run - as you just experienced with the Emerald Weapon, a lost run can go considerably quicker. And, of course, not all super-bosses are created equal - most don't have a million HP, in fact one of the hardest in the entire series has around... 60 to 75k, I think? - so there's a few who'd go down quickly. But you should definitely be prepared for at least three or four "half-an-hour-long" fights from now on, assuming you want to tackle them. My personal limit would be for the few "above-one-hour" fights; I could understand not wanting to go through those repeatedly. But that's a matter of personal taste, and as I said, most superbosses will clock at around half-an-hour or thereabouts anyway; I think that can be done.
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...WHAT
Cait Sith: "Elmyra cried herself silly… And so did little Marlene…"
I WAS JUST JOKING
THEY ACTUALLY WENT THERE??
Guile
Having a really great time right now
What a tearful and dramatic scene that they absolutely couldn't show because who has time and funds in the budget for that, let's do another Huge Materia heist
What do you mean 'Sector 5 key', I'm sure they'd remember giving you guys something like that
At least we know our good buddy Cait Sith is there to pick up our slack
What do you mean 'Sector 5 key', I'm sure they'd remember giving you guys something like that
At least we know our good buddy Cait Sith is there to pick up our slack
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Y'know, initially I thought that Shera told Palmer that she had the Autopilot working literally as she was putting her tools away afterwards and he just launched the rocket with her in, to kill Avalanche, but I'm becoming more convinced of he suicide fetish as time goes on.
The "Oh no it didn't work" after they literally just finished sabotaging it was pretty funny though.
The "Oh no it didn't work" after they literally just finished sabotaging it was pretty funny though.
GilliamYaeger
M'crazy.
Between Shera's insane suicidal tendencies, Cid's house only having one "bed" in the form of the couch (meaning they probably don't live together), and Cid's immediate revulsion when Cloud calls Shera his wife, I'm almost inclined to believe that she's just a crazy person who breaks into Cid's house to take care of him against his will.
Thozmp
Gets my kicks above the waistline, Sunshine.
There's a reason Cid is so ready to go off world traveling. It means Shera can't reliably know where he'll be sleeping...
I used to do the exact same thing, exacerbated by the fact that my childhood home was in a very mountainous region with zero straight roads, lmao. As a result, many of my fondest childhood memories are bookmarked by splitting headaches and the intense need to vomit.
I'm guessing that it's specifically the crew he worked on the rocket with before it was mothballed, and he's surprised to see them come back right as things are popping off. But really, who else is Shinra going to ask? You could probably count the number of qualified people in the entire world on both hands.
Rack another one up for "interesting Cid characterization that probably should have been established anytime before the scene where it becomes immediately relevant." Much like how people backfill character traits in their head for Cloud, Aerith, etc., I think people just sort of remember Cid's endpoint of "cranky man with begrudging heart" and not the very shaky steps it takes to get there.
Good ol' Palmer. In a bit of backstory I've just made up out of whole cloth, I always had him pegged as someone who got in on the ground floor of the old Shinra business, back in the Arms Dealer days. Like, maybe his dad or his brother knew Shinra Sr., and they finagled him a spot in the company where they just shuffled him around into whatever position needed a warm body and a rubber stamp.
In the alternate universe where FF7 is an anime, the Huge Materia Arc is the filler arc the production team stuck in 2/3rds of the way so they had time to go sicko mode properly animating the finale. It's fine, but you'll probably skip it on a rewatch.
I usually have a lot of leeway for a character's ability not being measured in hard metrics so long as the general limit of what they can/can't accomplish is consistent. But this is the first time in this particular game that I've found it obnoxious, since it's so egregious this time around. The callback is great, but there's a million better ways to do it than making a guy that literally swings giant pieces of metal around as a career somehow unable to lift a 10 foot sheet of scrap. But then again, a theoretically good premise, set up and executed weirdly is what you could summarize Cid's entire role in the plot as.
They're the couple doing public DD/LG Tank Healer RP in Alliance Chat, while the rest of the party is mentally screaming at them to please, for the love of God, STOP.
It finally gives some context to the line WAAAAYYYY back when you first visit Cosmo Canyon, where Cait mentions that he hadn't been back there in a long time.
I'm not saying that a giant space dragon shooting AKH MORN's like it's a killsat isn't it's own reward, and is infact a valuable tool when trying to kill body-hopping discorporeal souls as proven in FFXIV... but this probably would have been a great way to justify the Huge Materia hunt by having it play some greater role in the question of "what the fuck do we actually do about Sephiroth" then it just spitting out a Summon. Between the missable characters and the missable scenes, and the fact that we just spent hours on a main plot tangent that you're also able to fuck up on, it's a little deranged that SE worked this hard, for this much context sensitive content that's still hamstrung in it's very nature by nature of being technically optional. Imagine how much more you could do with all of it if Yuffie and especially Vincent were written as being inherently present, or the Huge Materia being more than just a glorified gachapon capsule?
Don't worry! It gets worse!
I'd assume...I *hope*...that either Cait's operator paid her a personal call, or it was relayed by whatever Shinra agent is assuredly watching Emlyra and Marlene and didn't rely on a magical toy cat wearing a crown and cape to break the news. This actually is a good way to touch on two different things. I like Cait Sith, but for some reason all the work that could have went into a second pass on the script apparently went towards cranking up the cat's accent up by like a thousandfold and as a result he's starting to sound like that old Limmy sketch about the depressed plastererer.
Secondly, it ties into something I've been thinking about a lot, which is the relative paucity of breaks from outside the main character's PoV. Off the top of my head, the only major one I can think of is the events surrounding the Plate Drop in the Shinra Exec's office. Everything else is relayed to the party via oral story, over the phone, videotape, etc., so much so that It can't be anything other than a deliberate way to frame the narrative. It makes sense in the context of Cloud's delusion, since it'd spoil the twist, but it's also surprising that something like that particular scene would occur offscreen. The Remake actually does it quite different, with numerous cutaways up to and including scenes that weren't even alluded to in the original game. Perhaps since the mysteries are all spoiled 20-ish years on, the benefits of having such a locked down perspective aren't so present.[/QUOTE]
Well duh. She has to N-tuple check her safety measures.
kairuf
(Verified Kaiger) (Not the Siberian)
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I see that you are a man of culture as well
So one of my favorite writers just posted a series of headcanons that with this update are no longer spoilers. Also they parallel some of the thoughts in this thread
"Esama" said:
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I think they're talking about the Remake summons, which, while aren't playable, are functionally an extra party member instead of a single attack like in the original.