Shard
One and Many
- Location
- Malaysia
I think putting the spoiler Thread itself on Ignore may also work?If it doesn't Omicron could try putting you on his ignore list since that will likely hide everything from threads you started
Let's Play Every Final Fantasy Game In Order Of Release [Now Finished: Final Fantasy Tactics]
- Thread starter Omicron
- Start date
- Let's Play
Jenova isn't as dead as you might think, and can influence the minds of people who have JENOVA cells and aren't in a good headspace, such as someone who has recently recieved a bunch of trauma and some unpleasant revelations. I think with out Jenova messing with him Sephiroth would have probably just torched Shinra Mansion then fucked off with Genesis. Maybe he would have swung by Midgar to violently murder Hojo.
- Location
- Spain
This bit really belongs to the spoiler thread.
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- Location
- Brittany, France
- Pronouns
- He/Him
On the one hand, yes, that is true.
On the other hand:
Article: In 1843, Hong failed the imperial examinations for the fourth and final time.[21] It was only then, prompted by a visit by his cousin, that Hong took time to carefully examine the Christian pamphlets he had received.[22] After reading these pamphlets, Hong came to believe that they had given him the key to interpreting his visions: his celestial father was God the Father (whom he identified with Shangdi from Chinese tradition), the elder brother that he had seen was Jesus Christ, and he had been directed to rid the world of demon worship. This interpretation led him to conclude that he was the literal son of God and younger brother to Jesus.
Article: The Taiping Rebellion [...] resulted in approximately 20–30 million deaths
Article: ranks as one of the bloodiest wars in human history, the bloodiest civil war, and the largest conflict of the 19th century
Article: Qing loyalist who observed the genocidal massacres
Article: Beyond staggering human and economic devastation,
Article: Famine, disease, massacres, and social disruption
Never underestimate what you can accomplish with a good psychotic break!
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Morganite
Happiness is a large book.
- Location
- Dynamis - Firefly Alley
So I finally caught up. Probably not worth trying to comment too much about 6 at this point... though I've got some thoughts about 5's ending that I'm still mulling over.
Well, there is one interesting thing - I think you could make an argument that Gau's rages are the closest predecessor the series had to how Blue Mage worked in FFXI. Mechanically it's very different (no losing control in a MMO please), but I can't remember any of the other previous expressions of blue magic having your chosen spells also give you stat changes and passive abilities.
As an FFXI player those translations can be a bit brain-breaking, because XI's spell names have both, but they indicate different things and can be combined together. (Number for higher power, -ra/-aga for area of effect.)
And it is the funniest thing ever, whether you get the right barrel or not. It makes me very sad that the speedrun tactic for this section is to not even bother with barrels. (The speedrun also does as little as possible in Wall Market. This would make it the worst timeline, except *spoilers*.)
Which is something that completely flew over my head when I first played it. As someone who now has Opinions on the portrayal of sex work in fiction... Well, they're too far out of focus to be sure. But this part Adloquium mentioned was interesting.
Looking at it that way really gives me a "it's just a job" vibe. That's actually a bit nuanced.
But wait a second, didn't she start calling Cloud that before he went into the back room (where she apparently came up with that)? Or have I got the timing mixed up?
(I sorta halfway feel like there's probably still some of that going on in the remake Honey Bee too, just that it's now only part of what the place is about. That could just be because it resembles another work where that aspect was unambiguous though.)
My no-prize explanation for that combined with the way no one seems to think it's an issue that they be down there is that up close, it's obviously paint and not blood, and it's really just an overwrought sex dungeon.
This one doesn't quite land for me, because Tifa literally signed up for it, and Aeris* is some random bystander.
*Because the -th spelling is a bit too on the nose.
Rejected. I don't want Hojo having motivations that I can understand.
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BRB, starting new game of FFVII so I can name him Mittens. Or at least name somebody Mittens.
Either that, or there's been more than one war with Wutai.
THESE FUCKING STAIRS
I didn't complain about the Shinra building stairs. Not even when I ran back down them because I didn't want to miss any of the noisy entrance stuff. Any of the multiple times I've played (and not finished) this game.
But these stairs? These stairs are different. They're boring. You have to take them multiple times in both directions. Whyyyyy
That just makes the complaining about "some of the Cetra settled down" even more stupid. Of course you want to have some of your population stay and some move on in that kind of scenario, it's called not putting your whole species in one basket!
Also, my headcanon is now that Ifalna was culturally a Cetra, but biologically she's no different from anyone else, because there hasn't actually been time or the required circumstances for species divergence, and so Hojo's plans are even stupider than they look.
I am always very happy when the game seems to suggest that (barring actual story reasons for the party to be split) that everyone is actually there and contributing in some way, whether it's fighting other enemies you aren't shown or just keeping you from getting flanked. Pity so few games seem to do it.
(Though .hack//IMOQ gets an honorable mention for it's party size being a game-within-a-game conceit... and *still* having a scene where the entire cast gets out there and fights together.)
Take that, people who wanted the equivalent of the Pixel Remasters but for FFVII!
Or at least, that's what it kinda comes across as?
-Morgan.
Well, there is one interesting thing - I think you could make an argument that Gau's rages are the closest predecessor the series had to how Blue Mage worked in FFXI. Mechanically it's very different (no losing control in a MMO please), but I can't remember any of the other previous expressions of blue magic having your chosen spells also give you stat changes and passive abilities.
As an FFXI player those translations can be a bit brain-breaking, because XI's spell names have both, but they indicate different things and can be combined together. (Number for higher power, -ra/-aga for area of effect.)
And it is the funniest thing ever, whether you get the right barrel or not. It makes me very sad that the speedrun tactic for this section is to not even bother with barrels. (The speedrun also does as little as possible in Wall Market. This would make it the worst timeline, except *spoilers*.)
Which is something that completely flew over my head when I first played it. As someone who now has Opinions on the portrayal of sex work in fiction... Well, they're too far out of focus to be sure. But this part Adloquium mentioned was interesting.
Looking at it that way really gives me a "it's just a job" vibe. That's actually a bit nuanced.
But wait a second, didn't she start calling Cloud that before he went into the back room (where she apparently came up with that)? Or have I got the timing mixed up?
(I sorta halfway feel like there's probably still some of that going on in the remake Honey Bee too, just that it's now only part of what the place is about. That could just be because it resembles another work where that aspect was unambiguous though.)
My no-prize explanation for that combined with the way no one seems to think it's an issue that they be down there is that up close, it's obviously paint and not blood, and it's really just an overwrought sex dungeon.
This one doesn't quite land for me, because Tifa literally signed up for it, and Aeris* is some random bystander.
*Because the -th spelling is a bit too on the nose.
Rejected. I don't want Hojo having motivations that I can understand.
...
BRB, starting new game of FFVII so I can name him Mittens. Or at least name somebody Mittens.
Either that, or there's been more than one war with Wutai.
THESE FUCKING STAIRS
I didn't complain about the Shinra building stairs. Not even when I ran back down them because I didn't want to miss any of the noisy entrance stuff. Any of the multiple times I've played (and not finished) this game.
But these stairs? These stairs are different. They're boring. You have to take them multiple times in both directions. Whyyyyy
That just makes the complaining about "some of the Cetra settled down" even more stupid. Of course you want to have some of your population stay and some move on in that kind of scenario, it's called not putting your whole species in one basket!
Also, my headcanon is now that Ifalna was culturally a Cetra, but biologically she's no different from anyone else, because there hasn't actually been time or the required circumstances for species divergence, and so Hojo's plans are even stupider than they look.
I am always very happy when the game seems to suggest that (barring actual story reasons for the party to be split) that everyone is actually there and contributing in some way, whether it's fighting other enemies you aren't shown or just keeping you from getting flanked. Pity so few games seem to do it.
(Though .hack//IMOQ gets an honorable mention for it's party size being a game-within-a-game conceit... and *still* having a scene where the entire cast gets out there and fights together.)
Take that, people who wanted the equivalent of the Pixel Remasters but for FFVII!
Or at least, that's what it kinda comes across as?
-Morgan.
That's just everyday Chinese warfare, bro.
Anyways, iconic sequence from a company and creative team at the top of their game. No notes.
Okay, one note. It's frankly kind of astounding how quickly and how much SE managed to get absolutely right in terms of visual design and direction on what was (iirc) their first 3D title. There's games coming out *today* that don't have the level of mise-en-scène that VII does with it's compressed pre-rendered backgrounds and untextured playmobil characters.
Lol I was even looking for a thread-ignore button before I made that joke. I am impressed by my own blindness.
deadcrystal
Slaaneshi Cultist
- Location
- The Warp
Oh yeah, most of it is wrong. Some of it is deliberate misinformation by Hojo, and some of it is just straight up Hojo's research being complete bunk. The Cetra aren't from another world, only JENOVA is. And Sephiroth doesn't have any Ancient lineage at all.
There's a longstanding theory that whilst Sephiroth may think he's doing his own scheme, in reality he's just providing rationalisations for the actions that JENOVA is puppeting him into. Like, his grand plan is coincidentally doing exactly what JENOVA's purpose is. HRMN. It can be read either way.
- Location
- Ireland
- Pronouns
- He/Him
There's a spoiler thread, everyone
But he didn't loot Nibelheim beforehand, which is a failure as a Hero. Pillage, then burn!
Zap Rowsdower
Ex-cultist vagrant
- Location
- Bright lights, big city
- Pronouns
- He/Him
That we know of.
GilliamYaeger
M'crazy.
The Omicron Plays Final Fantasy Spoiler Thread
So that the original thread doesn't end up one long series of boxes and black bars~ Completed: FFI to VIII Current: Tactics Omi has already played (to some extent): FFIX (vaguely remembers), FFXIV Please do not directly quote Omicron in this thread, though quoting in a way that doesn't ping...
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FelOnyx
Love and Peace!
- Location
- Gunsmoke
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Unless there's an option I missed you still get alerts from ignored threads.
aledeth
The Flesh is Weak
- Pronouns
- He/Him
So, the music cutting out when Seph slashes Tifa in the reactor.
I never thought that wasn't intentional audio design? You have the sound of Sephiroth's sword slicing Tifa to shit, and all music dies as you see her body go flying down the steps in slow motion, the only thing you hear being the noise she makes when hitting the floor.
Felt pretty perfect to the scene when I was a kid playing it for the first time.
I never thought that wasn't intentional audio design? You have the sound of Sephiroth's sword slicing Tifa to shit, and all music dies as you see her body go flying down the steps in slow motion, the only thing you hear being the noise she makes when hitting the floor.
Felt pretty perfect to the scene when I was a kid playing it for the first time.
- Location
- Albion
- Pronouns
- They/Them
Where are you getting 'exterminate everyone'? He says that he intends to 'take the planet back', and that he has been 'chosen to be the leader of this Planet'.
Certainly, he's killed a lot of people, but that doesn't seem to have been his goal so much as a side effect.
Egleris
Vagrant Dragon
- Location
- Italy
I went through the entire game two times, plus played sections on-and-off a few times.
- Pronouns
- He/Him
It's been a decade or so since I played FF7 to completion (though I'm replaying as Omi updates). The early portion through to the Mythril Mines is basically graven into my mind, but much of the middle is a muddle, with the exception of a few really, really strong pieces.
SolipsistSerpent
Endlessly Devouring
I played the game all the way through once in the 90's when it was fairly new. So a lot of the stuff Omicron covers has me going "Oh yeah, I'd forgotten that."
Zap Rowsdower
Ex-cultist vagrant
- Location
- Bright lights, big city
- Pronouns
- He/Him
I played partway through disc 1 decades ago before reaching a point where a scratch on the disk caused it to freeze, and never bought a replacement copy - I think I might have skimmed a (screencaps-style, not video) lets play at some point in the early 2000s and I've absorbed a lot of spoilers by osmosis, so I know a pretty rough outline of how things go past that point, but there's probably lots of smaller bits I'm missing past the scratch point.
- Location
- Michigan
I never finished the PS1 version, it was my college roommates game. But I bought the PC copy and I remember struggling with driver issues before finally just abandoning using a graphics card, it still ran ok without one.
I've beat it several times. Most of the disc one music is still so familiar and it's more nostalgic of college for me than the visual elements of the game.
I've beat it several times. Most of the disc one music is still so familiar and it's more nostalgic of college for me than the visual elements of the game.
I played through the game in full only once, back in the early 2000s. So really, a lot of this is refresher, but between replaying myself alongside the LP and Omi doing a much deeper dive than I have, it's still a pretty fun revisit.
Plus, new playthrough, new party member opportunity choice. Great as Barret is, pretty sure he spent every available time in my party first time through. This time, I kind of want to experiment with Tifa, and maybe [REDACTED] or [REDACTED].
Plus, new playthrough, new party member opportunity choice. Great as Barret is, pretty sure he spent every available time in my party first time through. This time, I kind of want to experiment with Tifa, and maybe [REDACTED] or [REDACTED].
somewhatLazy
Serial Procrastinator
- Location
- lurking
I completed the Steam version a few years ago, and am currently in a second playthrough—planning to kill the bonus bosses this time!
FelOnyx
Love and Peace!
- Location
- Gunsmoke
- Pronouns
- He/Him
It's a bit late to save your playthrough, but the game will actually work just fine if you start the game on the correct disk but then swap to a different one. All dialogue and story scenes are on all disks. It'll just play the wrong FMVs, for example whatever "FMV 2" is on disk 2 instead of disk 1's "FMV 2".