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Lest A Monster I Become [Multiple][Pseudo-SI]

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im not happy with the shit being X pulled but there exactly dick i can do about it loved it up and till being x desided to stick his pecker into the cereal what i say may not makes sense to most but it does to me {edit} i think i understand where this being x comes in he is the last push that forces andes to ascend not unlike his shades but a fully ascended kinda thingy
 
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Dromuthra said:
Hm. Gotta say, while I'm looking forward to seeing him start expanding his personal capabilities and investigating magecraft, despite your reasoning it still feels like he's making the same mistake he was trying to avoid. Oh, your explanation is reasonable, though it would be better if some of that was included in the chapter itself instead of after-the-fact commentary. Also, regardless of it being reasonable, it just feels kinda... off? Repetitive? Something, anyhow, to me as a reader.
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The character has been pulling this type of thing on various levels throughout the story. It's repetitive because he never learns and seems to escalate. Sometimes it can be funny, though since the tech isn't even that useful or interesting, I believe it's only a plot device here.
 
Azaira said:
The character has been pulling this type of thing on various levels throughout the story. It's repetitive because he never learns and seems to escalate. Sometimes it can be funny, though since the tech isn't even that useful or interesting, I believe it's only a plot device here.
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The major mistake Andes made here was trusting that his anti-perception glamours and cloaking tech would hide his presence from a being that is notoriously inobservant for long enough for him to essentially hop in and out of the 'Verse.

And honestly, with what he knew at the time, the fact that his wards weren't increasing in temperature at all should have meant that everything was fine: even if Being X HAD been noticing him, it should have caused the glamour equipment to overload.

This did NOT happen.

That failure to occur is, in fact, a violation of the mechanics that I have shown in this narrative to date.

What Being X did should have been impossible.
 
Logos01 said:
What Being X did should have been impossible.
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I chalked that up to 'God is Omnipotent and Omniscient within his/her realm', since that is basically the narrative of most religions. Higher tier capability allows for higher tier magicking around wards. Honestly, there are too many unknowns about magical mechanics to even bother trying to identify what is and is not possible.
 
Logos01 said:
What Being X did should have been impossible.
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This makes sense for the story; However, keep in mind that our MC already knows that Magic works differently in different realms.

I'm not saying that what happened didn't make sense - it completely does. But next time (if there is one) he should have a realization that maybe the base magic mechanics don't always match up. (In this case, no pushback against his wards)
 
Azaira said:
I chalked that up to 'God is Omnipotent and Omniscient within his/her realm', since that is basically the narrative of most religions. Higher tier capability allows for higher tier magicking around wards. Honestly, there are too many unknowns about magical mechanics to even bother trying to identify what is and is not possible.
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I don't want to get bogged down on stuff here, so I just want to point out that you kind of made an assumption, here, that doesn't really hold in the face of either the canon material nor this story in specific.

If Being X were omnipotent and more importantly omniscient, he would never have allowed the whole Tanya thing to play out in the first place. This literally happened due to Being X's lacking the power to compel worship, and the lack of insight into human minds to know better than following his strategy to get faith. He's also not the only god of that setting.

Furthermore: in my narrative, I've never really brought up deity-type beings outside of the Lovecraftian model, but I've also never really shown "separate rules for separate places". Any physics or magics Andes has encountered have worked everywhere he's been.

Lastly: his wards were actually able to fight off a local omnipotence like you describe, before: the Isekai 'Verse System. (And technically the Angel when it was invoking it's god, but that's... shenanigans.)

So... I'm not sure where you got that impression from, but it is not helpful to understand just how wrong what just happened in my story is.

This is a hint: something is wrong with this picture.

Vhalidictes said:
This makes sense for the story; However, keep in mind that our MC already knows that Magic works differently in different realms.

I'm not saying that what happened didn't make sense - it completely does. But next time (if there is one) he should have a realization that maybe the base magic mechanics don't always match up. (In this case, no pushback against his wards)
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Just to reaffirm: that's contrary to how I've shown things to work in this story. Especially with eldritch necromancy -- I've expressly mentioned, I believe, the fact that Dho-Na effects actively impose their rules on the local substrate. This is why the Tuning Forks and Dho-Na Banishment effects were able to be hybridized for the weapon of the wartalons.
 
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so out of curiosity would the highlander show/movie be within range for you because while while it doesn't have any note worthy tech it does have immortals and as far as I'm aware you could just pop in find some no name immortal and see if their immortality is biological or magical and potential reverse engineer it.
 
chance said:
so out of curiosity would the highlander show/movie be within range for you because while while it doesn't have any note worthy tech it does have immortals and as far as I'm aware you could just pop in find some no name immortal and see if their immortality is biological or magical and potential reverse engineer it.
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I mean, as long as we ignore some of the weirder movies ... it's definitely in range. Not sure what gain would come from it: he's already got immensely better immortality in the form of Taelon core energy arteries, Cylon Resurrection, and Stack backups. Not to mention the benefits of carrying/becoming the Red Sign.
 
Logos01 said:
I mean, as long as we ignore some of the weirder movies ... it's definitely in range. Not sure what gain would come from it: he's already got immensely better immortality in the form of Taelon core energy arteries, Cylon Resurrection, and Stack backups. Not to mention the benefits of carrying/becoming the Red Sign.
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I don't understand your character's terror of changing universes. Cloak destroyed 4 universes and changed 15 settings from canon before the Authors and Editors started noticing. Two more universes attacked with Vacuum Collapse before they started looking. He is nowhere near Cloaks evil disregard for inhabited universes
 
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Arimai said:
I don't understand your character's terror of changing universes. Cloak destroyed 4 universes and changed 15 settings from canon before the Authors and Editors started noticing. Two more universes attacked with Vacuum Collapse before they started looking
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Cloak is a Commander with infinite energy production and can power Tuning Forks to radiuses measured in Light Days. And can take all of this with him in unrestricted transit through the multiverse.

Andes, at his core, is just some guy. He's got a lot of juice thanks to the hundreds of billions of people who call him their god/head of state, but that's as much an anchor as it is a power.

Cloak's fight with them was a running battle even with all of his capabilities. Andes can't run. So he hides instead. Not to mention the whole existential horror of collapsing entire universes isn't something Andes is psychologically prepared to be culpable for.
 
Logos01 said:
I mean, as long as we ignore some of the weirder movies ... it's definitely in range. Not sure what gain would come from it: he's already got immensely better immortality in the form of Taelon core energy arteries, Cylon Resurrection, and Stack backups. Not to mention the benefits of carrying/becoming the Red Sign.
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I was thinking since in the first movie we"re shown that when a highlander dies they release some form of energy witch is then absorbed by the immortal who killed them(I might be miss remembering this part as I read alot of fanfics) which could potentially either give your people better energy absorption for bio materials or even another avenue of magic (cause that's definitely what it is) that's within range and relatively easy to acquire
 
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My guess is that the shred of casus belli and/or his admission of guilt via apology put him within its debt/power.

I figure there must be some reason gods are dicks. If mere admissions of fault can be lethal, that might explain a lot. And as a newly minted god himself, the God-Emperor has to play by their rules, I'm guessing.
 
I don't remember the thread title for the fanfics search request thread. For fanfics people have lost track of
 
Dur'id the Druid said:
Just to be sure, Being X here is the entity from Tanya the Evil series?
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Yup.

Andes was pirating the research notes and stealing the failed builds for the Type-95. As well as a bunch of "engineering" Orbs (low-powered orbs not suited for Aerial Mage use but calibrated for extremely consistent output rates, to make fine work easier. The equivalent of basic machining tools; not cheap, but easily replaceable.)

I tend to refer to it by Youjo Senki, if only because Tanya really isn't appreciably evil and thus the English title is kinda .... off.
 
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I hate Being X. Then again that particular setting just irks me in particular. It's one of a few that a vacuum collapse would improve
 
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Enthusiast#117 said:
My guess is that the shred of casus belli and/or his admission of guilt via apology put him within its debt/power.

I figure there must be some reason gods are dicks. If mere admissions of fault can be lethal, that might explain a lot. And as a newly minted god himself, the God-Emperor has to play by their rules, I'm guessing.
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I think he meant that 'God' shouldn't have found mc in the first place.
 
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