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La Chanson de France - Fate/Broken Europa

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Presumably Puck is only going to stick around as long as this remains an amusing adventure for them and the Grail War provides such interesting opportunities for mischief and tying the shoe-laces together of all these high and mighty nerds obsessed with 'real' heroic spirits. When this stops being a fun and cruel trickster narrative for dear Robin and they have to be actually invested in things as a power of the War and not just deflating the pride of all us oh-so-special magi, I imagine they'd find a way to get out of that compact with Sophie lickety-split and go fuck off back to Britain to curdle some milk and tip some cows like the good old days.
 
bookwyrm said:
Presumably Puck is only going to stick around as long as this remains an amusing adventure for them and the Grail War provides such interesting opportunities for mischief and tying the shoe-laces together of all these high and mighty nerds obsessed with 'real' heroic spirits. When this stops being a fun and cruel trickster narrative for dear Robin and they have to be actually invested in things as a power of the War and not just deflating the pride of all us oh-so-special magi, I imagine they'd find a way to get out of that compact with Sophie lickety-split and go fuck off back to Britain to curdle some milk and tip some cows like the good old days.
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They will totally stick around super long and eventually join up with the protagonists just because Omicron seems to really enjoy writing them.
 
[X] The eve of defeat.

I think I learned of elf shot for the first time in a light novel actually, so that's appropriately weeby.
 
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Elfshot or elf-shot is a medical condition described in Anglo-Saxon medical texts, notably Wið færstice, and believed to be caused by invisible elves shooting invisible arrows at a person or animal, causing sudden shooting pains localised to a particular area of the body.[1]​ Modern diagnoses might include rheumatism, arthritis, muscle stitches or cramps. Similar concepts existed in other northern European cultures.
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Cedric is probably gonna make more "you're an old lady" jokes at Mads now.

[X] The first day of battle.
 
[X] The first day of battle.

People thinking Berserker is from the Isles when the Britbongs can easily use their museum as a shopping centre for summoning catalyst.

Calling it now, either Sophia or Puck tries to pilfer artifacts later in the story as a joke, a certified Angleterre classic.
 
bookwyrm said:
Presumably Puck is only going to stick around as long as this remains an amusing adventure for them and the Grail War provides such interesting opportunities for mischief and tying the shoe-laces together of all these high and mighty nerds obsessed with 'real' heroic spirits. When this stops being a fun and cruel trickster narrative for dear Robin and they have to be actually invested in things as a power of the War and not just deflating the pride of all us oh-so-special magi, I imagine they'd find a way to get out of that compact with Sophie lickety-split and go fuck off back to Britain to curdle some milk and tip some cows like the good old days.
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I'd imagine having had an iron spear go through at least some of his organs would already make things no longer amusing.

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Hello Mordred
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The horns aren't quite right for Mordred since they were described as swept forward, but if that is Mordred the Berserker being able to speak would be neatly explained.

It'd be the berserker downsides not being able to quite get through the draconic magic resistance.
 
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Hm, wasn't expecting to see Berserker here. I don't recognize them for sure yet, but let's pile up all the clues we have:
- "Knight out of Hell". Sub-elements: darkness, falling from the Heavens, possibly associated with crimson lightning and fire
-- Some of this may just be 'using Command Spell to summon Berserker', but something associated with demonic forces or falling from grace seems plausible here
- "A thing of steel": heavy and thick dark armor. Joints show spines or scales sticking out
- "Articulated in bands like a snake's coils", "reptilian eyes": could be associated with the snake in the Garden of Eden or the snakes of the cadaceus symbol? Can also be dragon-related, given how dragons appear in Fate.
- Had some heraldry on their tabard that has been scratched "as if by the claws of a beast": This would imply to me that Berserker has an identity that would be clear enough if we could see the symbol that they wear.
- Big sword: too large for a human, mostly black, with ruby/crimson highlights and silver edges.
- Berserker speaks. Berserker is either not using Madness Enhancement right now, or has a version that does not seal speech.
-- Berserker says "Die, Keltoi". Shadowhisker identifies this as a Greek word.
- Berserker is short compared to Saber (who is over two meters tall--6'7" in freedom), but this wasn't obvious at first
-- It could be that the height was just overlooked, or Berserker has a variable height, or the height is obscured in some way

Anything that I missed, here? I don't think the fact that Berserker is "raw power" is itself much of a clue.


Mordred has already been mentioned as a possibility, and this depiction matches Mordred, but Mordred isn't noted to have a snake-like component. I do not think Berserker is Mordred.

I do think Berserker is going to be closely associated with something out of: Hell, snakes, Greece. Cain (as in son of Adam and Eve) is a longshot possibility here, for a fall from grace and his mom got to know the tempter snake.

If it's a Greek possibility, there's Ophion and a selection of monsters, but Asclepius is my personal front-runner.

Outside that... well, what knights are associated with snakes? Saint George is a possibility. Saint Patrick is associated with snakes, but isn't a knight. Heraldry getting ripped away means that a collection of knights, such as the Round Table or Charlemagne's paladins, is a strong contender. Anyone got a connection between one of Charlemagne's crew and snakes or working with demons? There were a few figures I can think of who were noted for wrestling demons, but I'm thinking more popes than knights.




[x] The eve of defeat.
 
I don't think that this is it anymore with the Greek word, but when Berserker first arrived in addition to the whole Game rejecting the Age of Man and working under the rule of that Tyranny if Gods, my first thought was Vortigern.
 
Omicron said:
"Die, Keltoi."
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On the subject of the use of Greek here, because I am an insufferable nitpicker (but also because this might have interesting implications if it's intentional) - @Omicron I'm pretty sure Keltoi would be the plural form, with the singular being Keltos*.

* or potentially Kelte if you want to decline it into the vocative, since Berserker seems to be directly addressing Saber here**,***,****
** though I'm not actually sure what the convention would be on whether or not to decline a foreign word used in a language normally lacking noun declensions
*** also if you did use it then Kelte would be less obviously Greek in writing so it might be preferable to use Κελτέ if that's a detail that should be clear to the reader?
**** all of this is assuming that this is supposed to be Ancient Greek; if it's Modern then I'm less sure about the situation re: the vocative though I'm still fairly confident on the "singular -os/plural -oi" bit

(if this was in fact intentional and/or you just don't care about my linguistic pedantry then apologies & feel free to ignore me)

(also my level of familiarity here is distinctly amateur so corrections welcome from any available experts)
 
Wiadi said:
On the subject of the use of Greek here, because I am an insufferable nitpicker (but also because this might have interesting implications if it's intentional) - @Omicron I'm pretty sure Keltoi would be the plural form, with the singular being Keltos*.

* or potentially Kelte if you want to decline it into the vocative, since Berserker seems to be directly addressing Saber here**,***,****
** though I'm not actually sure what the convention would be on whether or not to decline a foreign word used in a language normally lacking noun declensions
*** also if you did use it then Kelte would be less obviously Greek in writing so it might be preferable to use Κελτέ if that's a detail that should be clear to the reader?
**** all of this is assuming that this is supposed to be Ancient Greek; if it's Modern then I'm less sure about the situation re: the vocative though I'm still fairly confident on the "singular -os/plural -oi" bit

(if this was in fact intentional and/or you just don't care about my linguistic pedantry then apologies & feel free to ignore me)

(also my level of familiarity here is distinctly amateur so corrections welcome from any available experts)
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i considered this but decided "keltoi" sounds cooler, if some dead greek wants to take it up with me he can come say it to my face
 
Okay, so good news and bad news. On the one hand we can probably rule out the possibility of "Berserker is treating Verci as a stand-in for her people," which would've been alarming as it'd imply knowledge of her identity, at least to a degree. On the other hand this also kills the theory of "Berserker doesn't actually know Greek & is just trying to fake us out about its true identity," which would've been hysterical.
 
Oh, I was thinking, maybe I should do a "known intel" sheet about the various characters that have shown up in the story so far?
 
I have zero knowledge of the Fate franchise, but I read through this quest on a whim and I'm loving it. The Brexit framing means I can pretend to be an intellectual as I read about wizards having anime battles :V
 
Omicron said:
"Die, Keltoi."
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I'm starting to believe this is a mistaken translation which is understandable considering the situation.

Obviously Berserker is expounding on being called 'Mindless' earlier by saying they are "The" Mindless (The "you foolish Celt" is heavy with implication). It's why the author must insist on keeping the singular version of the word. Clearly being seen as the preeminent crazy sonovabitch in this War is very important to them, I think this might be a clue...:V

[X] The eve of defeat.
 
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