That's pretty fair, I don't want to come across that we must absolutely take Deadliness or our build is bricked, I just think it's pretty useful and good at playing with some of our more uncommon tools we already have, and plays better with the Knight's fighting style than it might first look. Even if we're just talking about Black Scratching a training dummy until it dies, its not a negligible benefit simply because of how the breakpoints fall. That's obviously not totally representative either- but it's shows there's several scenarios where it can matter.
Yeah, I'm not trying to say the Norse are too weak to consider in the discussion, I'm saying I know as much as Audrey does about their capabilities (probably less) so I'm trying to extrapolate based off what little I have over a specific topic.
That I agree with for sure. Action economy is queen in any turn based system. Still trying to decide how useful initiative is in this system, whether it's just good or if it's a god stat like in some other quests. Seems like it got replaced with speed however, since speed directly gives multiple actions. Kind of wondering if having a much higher initiative can result in multiple turns per turn, through other people not being fast enough to act. Probably not though, doesn't seem to be how this system works.
Initiative just being turn order isn't super impressive, but I think there's a niche in trying to preempt weaker enemies from trying to nova punch up at us- especially if we do pick up that simultaneous attack if we're double speed hordebreaker technique. Dropping simultaneous GFB on a threatening add to remove them from the equation before focusing on a bigger threat can potentially mitigate a pesky Thane or Norseman from really popping off and tipping a fight.
It's more you're undervaluing it because you don't appreciate how much the threat of a wincon by true damage shapes an entire approach to combat addressing said threat
Yeah, it's hard to quantify using FG more aggressively because we're not going to just be one or two shotting people left or right with it, but if someone gets chunked for a notable fraction of their HP through their other defenses they have to respond and react to that potential threat vector.
Norsemen—though only some of them—have whats called 'Frenzy', which is pretty good. Adds itself to every battle action and also lets a Frenzy-user predict what you will do next, to a certain degree.
I am still disappointed that Halla never learned it (at least in the duration of the quest, who knows maybe she learned it since then), it was so good, sure it had massive drawbacks but just having the button of "kill everything in sight" would have been helpful.
Potentially up to several hours, depending on several factors
Very few formations can keep cohesion when met by a raging Berserk. Berserkergang does drive them wild, yes, but they can be pointed in generally the right direction.
One of the ways, that is.
Or dropping Seats of Gawain on them at High Noon and forcing the issue
I think half the issue was that everyone who knew it well enough to teach it was either in a Steelfather's warband, and therefore we wouldn't go to them because fuck Steelfathers, or would be questioning where the hell we got our Frenzy from as we never got any Shapecrafted into us and thats suspicious as fuck. The other half is that we honestly were at least on par with Berserkergang, considering Hooknails was stronger than us, we beat him, he popped Berserkergang, we beat him again, all based on how technical of a fighter we were and how deep our bag of tricks was.
If it was that Easy Alfred wouldn't be so close to death and the Steelfathers wouldn't be eyeing wessex up with hungry eyes.
I'll note that Hooknails was a massive fraud. The guy got Standstill of all kunna and literally only copied your moves. Zero innovation behind those eyes, absolutely none.
