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nothing spices things up more than a child sacrifice and mass cannibalism by the protagonist
luv that game
Kingdom Come: Deliverance
- Thread starter Yonatan
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nothing spices things up more than a child sacrifice and mass cannibalism by the protagonist
luv that game
cB557
voOOP
Eh, so it uses a common trope for its beginning. That's not the worst thing in the world. Heck, some people probably find it a plus.
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Guh, I need to finish it. Got sidetracked halfway through. Much love for Velvet.
This discussion is making me interested in the thought of a female protagonist, defined-character, late-medieval RPG game that prides itself on its historical accuracy.
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- Somewhere in the stacks
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- She/Her
Oooh. That could be really cool honestly. Make it a mystery or something, too. Doesn't necessarily have to be real swordsy.
Well, I have to admit admit I gravitate towards swordsy stuff by default. I was thinking of something like a young noblewoman returning home to rally her family's vassals and defend her lands after a long absence (maybe after having fled an impending betrothal she didn't care for to go play condottiere in Italy). An excellent setting that leaps to mind would be France during the Hundred Years War.
Could even set it during Jeanne d'Arc's campaign, for extra points.
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- She/Her
I'm not opposed to swords and whatnot, but I just really like the idea of solving a mystery in a medieval castle town or something. Narrow, muddy streets, claustrophobic buildings, navigating the social fabric of medieval Europe. All while trying to find a murderer. I just like thinking of ways of incorporating women in games that don't necessarily mean swords and knights except a woman. Women in medieval Europe did participate in war and fighting, but they also had life experiences and day-to-day living that was quite different from that and I think incorporating that somehow could be fascinating.
Hykal94
Orange Estus Kitteh
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One of the main questlines does have you do this actually. Well technically it was a raid, but you have to look for clues and hunt down the raiders. You have the option of taking them by yourself or getting reinforcements.
That is one thing I'll say about KCD. The quests are pretty unique. They're grounded stuff, going on patrol, stealing things from people, breaking up disputes, etc.
I get it, but what you're talking about sounds to me like just one facet of the game experience, not something that the game revolves around. Saying "Oh, make it a mystery or something" makes me assume you're not interested in the idea of combat as a major gameplay element, and are more interested in a detective story.
And, see, the reason why I may appear to be thinking of combat rather than other forms of gameplay is because the thing that prompted this idea was specifically the idea of people protesting "But mah Historical Accuracy!!" at the idea of a female 'knightly' protagonist. A mystery story (or even just individual quests as part of a larger game) is cool too but doesn't really buck that same trend that I was thinking of.
MiracleGrow
Miracles for only $19.99 [They/Them]
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I'm honestly thinking about speedrunning this game. It has the right amount of jank to it for fun speedrunning. Like I can get to max sword skill in an hour by abusing invulnerable NPC's. After that you get stinger and one shot the majority of enemies in the game.
Also you can glitch through any wall in the game by putting your horse next it. Can became completely invincible after a certain part of the game by abusing a stop gap measure for fixing a bug. After that you can launch yourself across the map at a million miles an hour by crouching and walking backwards into certain bushes.
Shame that the head developer is a moron. Has he said anything else beyond the comments he made two years ago?
Also you can glitch through any wall in the game by putting your horse next it. Can became completely invincible after a certain part of the game by abusing a stop gap measure for fixing a bug. After that you can launch yourself across the map at a million miles an hour by crouching and walking backwards into certain bushes.
Shame that the head developer is a moron. Has he said anything else beyond the comments he made two years ago?
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- Somewhere in the stacks
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- She/Her
Ah yeah, fair. I'm more thinking broadly about what I'd want to see in a historically accurate RPG set in medieval Europe, I guess.
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- United Kingdom
I torrented this and put maybe 35 hours into it, got to the bit where you have to make a trebuchet and gave up. The writing baffles me. Some of the quests are excellent, and very interesting and immersive, others however are terribly written, a lot of the main quest in fact. There's plenty of 'but thou must' in it and I really wanted to use the fact that I'm a bloodstained knight with the best armour in the world and so on against peasants who kept messing me about. The combat was cool, but only against single opponents, like Benard, whereas the big battles were indeed janky and chaotic. There's far too much time wasting by the devs, not just in load times but when you go talk to a blacksmith to sell all the loot you just got, and it takes more than necessary clicks to get there.
Returning to the main quest, I'm really baffled about some bits of it. You effective have 'somewhere was raided, investigate, find camp, destroy' for each of the three acts of the game, just you keep doing it. I didn't bother finishing it because of this, and while I've had a look at the ending on youtube, it seems ridiculous to finish it like that. The game is set up that you avenge your father's death and get his sword back but then it ends without even meeting the final antagonist.
In general, thought it was an interesting game that was a lot of fun for the first 20 or so hours, after that I wanted to see the ending but got increasingly annoyed by the various issues with it.
Returning to the main quest, I'm really baffled about some bits of it. You effective have 'somewhere was raided, investigate, find camp, destroy' for each of the three acts of the game, just you keep doing it. I didn't bother finishing it because of this, and while I've had a look at the ending on youtube, it seems ridiculous to finish it like that. The game is set up that you avenge your father's death and get his sword back but then it ends without even meeting the final antagonist.
In general, thought it was an interesting game that was a lot of fun for the first 20 or so hours, after that I wanted to see the ending but got increasingly annoyed by the various issues with it.
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So the prologue which is before your released into the open world has your blacksmith father making a sword, to give to his lord, an attack happens meaning you can't get it to him, when you to to bury your parents you take the sword but a bandit steals it
and then the game gets going to spoiler:
You track the bandit down but he doesn't have the sword, his boss does, you then track the boss down and besiege him but he escapes and taunts you with the sword, then just rides off. The main quest even has an objective 'kill markvart von something' which is the guy who killed your father, but he disappears after the prologue. Both these men are being paid by an enemy king, so I assumed the story arc would be, kill the bandit, kill the sword thief, kill the parent killer.
Magic_Pal
On long term vacations in hell
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- Poland
Well I know that the game is good. Very good. Yes it is buggy but in this days what game isn't? Combat is fun, quest are fun, world is pretty.
And really why are you people so angry about npc color? This is a simple fact that there was little to zero black people in bohemia at that time. Even if they were ther would make less than 0.001% of a population. If you say that it isn't true then I want a white indians. There is nothing wrong with multicolor cast of npc but we should not try to change history because we don't like it.
And if anyone want game like that then you know what? You can make it yourselfs. They wanted to make game like it is now. So they did. Respect for that.
And really why are you people so angry about npc color? This is a simple fact that there was little to zero black people in bohemia at that time. Even if they were ther would make less than 0.001% of a population. If you say that it isn't true then I want a white indians. There is nothing wrong with multicolor cast of npc but we should not try to change history because we don't like it.
And if anyone want game like that then you know what? You can make it yourselfs. They wanted to make game like it is now. So they did. Respect for that.
De3ta
Mae
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- The hellish pit known as New Jersey
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The fuck are you on about? Christ I don't want to do a takedown of your post, because that's kind idea dick move. God damn if you didn't make it so easy to regardless!
I mean aside the fact that this game touts historical accuracy while making the cumans orc rapists and showing all non-bohemian foreigners as evil or untrustworthy....youre still a genericnfanrasy protagonist. You're still some wondervread generic fuck squire type going off to kill "barbarians" and fuck women like the "alpha" you supposedly are.
The only thing this game does differently is that it's combat is slightly harder and it takes notes from the game of thrones tv show in how god damn try hard it is to be "realistic" and edgy.
I'm not even going to bother with the "make it yourselves" non-argument because that's just silly.
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I don't think anyone would give that much of a shit if one of the leading developers wasn't a massive prick about it.
Like just throwing it out there, Fez is an actual masterpiece of a video game, a nearly transcendent work of art so carefully and lovingly crafted it's almost unbelievable, and people still get right on Phil Fish's case for being a shithead. In comparison, Kingdom Come: Deliverance is hella jank and kind of unimaginative (and not really as realistic as claimed). People aren't going to give it a huge amount of slack.
Like just throwing it out there, Fez is an actual masterpiece of a video game, a nearly transcendent work of art so carefully and lovingly crafted it's almost unbelievable, and people still get right on Phil Fish's case for being a shithead. In comparison, Kingdom Come: Deliverance is hella jank and kind of unimaginative (and not really as realistic as claimed). People aren't going to give it a huge amount of slack.
De3ta
Mae
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- The hellish pit known as New Jersey
It likes to say that's is far more innovative a story than it really is once you get past the thin veneer of "historical accuracy".
I'm still mad about crafting the save potion. Also the Camp Gay Evil villains is especially tacky even for the genre.
Magic_Pal
On long term vacations in hell
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But this is how things were at that time. Knights in shining armor when invading were raping and pillaging left and right. A mentality that if you are not from my country, then you are not my friend was very strong. And yes at that time "alpha" males were like that and they were at the top. This is just how things were. Even now Czech is mostly white. So back then I'm willing to bet that there were less than 500 black people there. I'm just angry that some people are so willing to silence everyone that have a different opinion.
Well from games that are out right now I think that KC: D is the most realistic one. And can someone point to me when main developer is showing to be racist? From what I have read, the only thing that he did was defending his game for not having black characters and supporting gamergate with is not racist.
always_confused
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Christ on a crutch.
I feel dirty for enjoying the game now.
I feel dirty for enjoying the game now.
Magic_Pal
On long term vacations in hell
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De3ta
Mae
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Alright i'm done, i've got better things to do.
You don't need to feel that terrible if ya didn't know before hand. This shit has been woefully undermentioned in most outlets covering the game so Its not your fault.
Magic_Pal
On long term vacations in hell
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De3ta
Mae
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- The hellish pit known as New Jersey
No counterargument? Win to me
Ohhohohohgoooofuckyourself we are doing this you picked the wrong time to fuckin test me pal.
When was the last time you open an actual history book and not some d-list Tolkien rip off that couldn't stop suckling the cock of European centrism and "whiteness" even if it had no lips? When has history ever been as black and white as "evil rapist foreigners are here to invade our white holy land" Jesus Christ what in the hell kind of nationalist right wing garbage have you been shoveling into your intellectual filler.
"Alpha" theory is both about wolves, not humans, and even proven wrong by the fucking guy who coined the term. Not to mention it was about wolves in captivity.
And no, the Czech republic isn't mostly "white" because race is fuckin nonsenseical bullshit made up so colonial slave owners could feel better owning people to work their land. Back last time reactionaries were more an vogue they wouldn't consider themselves, or the Czech people "white". They considered them slavs and sent them to fucking work camps. Racial theory is all bullshit used to justify this kind of shit.
And as for the developer being a fucking cockhead, read the god damn thread. I won't even touch the "most realistic game out" point because it's fucking horse shit.
always_confused
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If only. I did know all that going in, which is why I made it a point to not pay a cent for the game and I've held to that. But I have played the game, and for the sake of the rules I'm not going to elaborate on how. >_>
I find myself enjoying the game, warts and all. But on some level it feels wrong?