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Kars' Ultimate Adventure. Jojo/Dragonball

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thagguy said:
Actually, as this is my quest and my thread, I do, if enjoying yourself equates to bullying other participants, then I'll indeed do what needs to be done. I'd rather not, and would prefer if you simply correct the behavior I am referring to and do not engage in it in the future
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As I said.

I respond well to being asked. Not to temper tantrums. That you equate bluntness with "bullying", especially given your attitude thus far, speaks far more to your own preferences than it does mine.

I simply do what I want.

Others are free to do the same as well. I have no need to control them in a futile exercise of control and personal power. Just as you are free to indulge in such impulses as well.

Heh.
 
Guys can we please find out how Ki works before we attempt anything with Hamon; I'd rather not be taken by surprise if hamon isn't as effective against ki in the middle of a fight.
 
Errybody in Dragonball knows Ki. Especially people from space. See how every mook of Freiza's can fly and shoot beams of energy.

We want to be at least mook level as soon as we can.

Naturally we'll also be doing Hamon research, but it should take a bit of a back seat.
 
Bag of Bones said:
Guys can we please find out how Ki works before we attempt anything with Hamon; I'd rather not be taken by surprise if hamon isn't as effective against ki in the middle of a fight.
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It's not about the biggatons, though

Hamon just does more things that only marginally make sense. Ki can be simply described as "the expression of force via some kind of biological energy"

It acts in a very different, more direct manner than Hamon. Which can be sufficiently described as "Like the power of the sun only what the fuck?"
 
TehChron said:
It's not about the biggatons, though

Hamon just does more things that only marginally make sense. Ki can be simply described as "the expression of force via some kind of biological energy"

It acts in a very different, more direct manner than Hamon. Which can be sufficiently described as "Like the power of the sun only what the fuck?"
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Ki is also a form of defense; finding out how that defense works using ourselves as a subject is vital here.

Hamon can be put on a backburner until we master that; then the hamon experimentation can begin.
 
Bag of Bones said:
Ki is also a form of defense; finding out how that defense works using ourselves as a subject is vital here.

Hamon can be put on a backburner until we master that; then the hamon experimentation can begin.
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I disagree

A genius of Ki is a threat. Maybe not to Frieza directly, but almost certainly to people who could still kick Kars' ass as he is now

A genius of some random esoteric art nobody gets and isn't really all that impressive is an interesting sideshow and almost certainly not a threat

The latter gives Kars more opportunities to move himself into a better position that's far away from Frieza, where he can Science the fuck out of things stone age style
 
TehChron said:
I disagree

A genius of Ki is a threat. Maybe not to Frieza directly, but almost certainly to people who could still kick Kars' ass as he is now

A genius of some random esoteric art nobody gets and isn't really all that impressive is an interesting sideshow and almost certainly not a threat

The latter gives Kars more opportunities to move himself into a better position that's far away from Frieza, where he can Science the fuck out of things stone age style
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I agree that we shouldn't wait until we MASTER Ki to work on Hamon, I think we should work on basics of both.
 
Dark Ness said:
I agree that we shouldn't wait until we MASTER Ki to work on Hamon, I think we should work on basics of both.
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Nah, I'm not saying we can't do both

I'm just against demonstrating an aptitude for it within a day of discovering it.

The PTO knows that's implausible. What they know nothing of is Hamon, and so they'll consider it a curiosity. Not a threat.
 
Dark Ness said:
I agree that we shouldn't wait until we MASTER Ki to work on Hamon, I think we should work on basics of both.
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Even so, we should hold back any progress on Ki for a few days, since 1) we didn't know anything about it when we arrived, and demonstrating any aptitude for it could get us labelled a prodigy, and 2) we're still a relative unknown. Focusing on Hamon rather than Ki in this early span of time helps give off a relatively nonthreatening, but still interesting, first impression to bias all of our future encounters with Frieza's men.

(saltninja'd)
 
[X] Meditate on your cot for a portion of the night.
-[X] Focus on your breathing. Hamon, from your reading, is unknown to the PTO, and will give you an edge.​
 
TehChron said:
I disagree

A genius of Ki is a threat. Maybe not to Frieza directly, but almost certainly to people who could still kick Kars' ass as he is now

A genius of some random esoteric art nobody gets and isn't really all that impressive is an interesting sideshow and almost certainly not a threat

The latter gives Kars more opportunities to move himself into a better position that's far away from Frieza, where he can Science the fuck out of things stone age style
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We don't have to become the most godly Ki user of creation. We can simply become adequate for a mook then secretly focus on Hamon, that was my plan.

Freiza is pretty intelligent. If he notices what Kars can do with Hamon he may worry he will find a way to take his head with his exotic powers. Thus concealing it as best we can would be the wisest move.

So become an adequate mook with a unusual ability to bypass Ki defenses with his strange eating power but so slow he's still clearly not a threat to Lord Freiza, while secretly learning and training with Hamon.

We should also seek to make friendly connections with fellow mooks, even if they're likely to not last long.
 
TehChron said:
Nah, I'm not saying we can't do both

I'm just against demonstrating an aptitude for it within a day of discovering it.

The PTO knows that's implausible. What they know nothing of is Hamon, and so they'll consider it a curiosity. Not a threat.
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Depends on the apitude we show. Basic Ki blasts? Probably not a big deal. Adult Goku stuff? Time for "questions"

Also, did we ever actually SAY we didn't know about Ki?
 
Asmodemus said:
We don't have to become the most godly Ki user of creation. We can simply become adequate for a mook then secretly focus on Hamon, that was my plan.

Freiza is pretty intelligent. If he notices what Kars can do with Hamon he may worry he will find a way to take his head with his exotic powers. Thus concealing it as best we can would be the wisest move.
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I'm not worried at sneaking one by Frieza

I'm worried about Zarbon, Dodoria...

And Ginyu
 
Dark Ness said:
Depends on the apitude we show. Basic Ki blasts? Probably not a big deal. Adult Goku stuff? Time for "questions"

Also, did we ever actually SAY we didn't know about Ki?
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We don't fly. And the scouters had to get readjusted because Kars doesn't produce Ki, so they had to use some other means to determine his power level.

Moreover, if anyone investigates Kars data usage, his true intelligence will become known. Which will be considered a threat by literally everyone.
 
Dark Ness said:
Also, did we ever actually SAY we didn't know about Ki?
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Everyone kinda just assumes you do. In the "modern" PTO, there's no real reason to assume that anyone doesn't have some degree of ki control, let alone a power level of ~400.

the Scouters not being able to read his ki at first was just assumed to be a bug. Happens from time to time, no big deal. And in a way, it is; a Scouter couldn't tell you this, because it's just spitting out a number, but someone who could actually sense ki would think that Kars' is really fucking weird, for obvious reasons.
 
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Dark Ness said:
I agree that we shouldn't wait until we MASTER Ki to work on Hamon, I think we should work on basics of both.
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We pretty much have the basics of Hamon already.
TehChron said:
Nah, I'm not saying we can't do both

I'm just against demonstrating an aptitude for it within a day of discovering it.

The PTO knows that's implausible. What they know nothing of is Hamon, and so they'll consider it a curiosity. Not a threat.
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Uhh literally everyone in the PTO has a basic understanding of ki and us not using Ki would be considered unusual.
 
TehChron said:
Moreover, if anyone investigates Kars data usage, his true intelligence will become known. Which will be considered a threat by literally everyone.
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Everyone except Freeza. I don't think his ego will let him accept that some one with our power level is a threat. Also, if they already know, what is the point of hiding it?
 
Mykenae said:
Even so, we should hold back any progress on Ki for a few days, since 1) we didn't know anything about it when we arrived, and demonstrating any aptitude for it could get us labelled a prodigy
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*looks over past updates for ki references*

Unless he can read Kars' mind there's no references at all to Ki. Freiza probably assumes he knows it as pretty much everyone does in the galaxy. The research might just be basic checking for how much the people onboard the ship know of it.

And the one technician said it had to be a mistake and noted the sensors were having issues reading Kars. "It was probably some glitch or error on their part." And if we raise our Ki level quickly it will obviously be that.
 
thagguy said:
Everyone kinda just assumes you do. In the "modern" PTO, there's no real reason to assume that anyone doesn't have some degree of ki control, let alone a power level of ~400.
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...I almost forgot how much that organization blindly takes for granted

And Frieza considered the Namekians regeneration interesting, huh.

Objection withdrawn.
 
[X] Meditate on your cot for a portion of the night.
-[X] Focus on your breathing. Hamon, from your reading, is unknown to the PTO, and will give you an edge.
-[X] You have read how to access your Ki. You will need to in the future; begin the mental exercises to control it.
 
Asmodemus said:
*looks over past updates for ki references*

Unless he can read Kars' mind there's no references at all to Ki. Freiza probably assumes he knows it as pretty much everyone does in the galaxy. The research might just be basic checking for how much the people onboard the ship know of it.

And the one technician said it had to be a mistake and noted the sensors were having issues reading Kars. "It was probably some glitch or error on their part." And if we raise our Ki level quickly it will obviously be that.
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There is also the fact we just literally came out of millions of years of hibernation; Kars power level rising would probably be considered by the PTO as him regaining his strength.
 
Dark Ness said:
Everyone except Freeza. I don't think his ego will let him accept that some one with our power level is a threat. Also, if they already know, what is the point of hiding it?
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Well...Beuracrats are pretty lazy

If I saw something like that, I'd assume the first thing Kars did was download a ton of Space Porn

Little did they know that sex was useless:V
 
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