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It would be fucking hilarious to find out that, all of the Latin American countries have like 20 rebellions and each and every single one will be extremely confused.

Also would the Whiskey Rebellion count?
 
Neal Caffrey said:
It would be fucking hilarious to find out that, all of the Latin American countries have like 20 rebellions and each and every single one will be extremely confused.

Also would the Whiskey Rebellion count?
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Hmm, maybe actually! But yeah, South America is a mass of rebellions. On the one hand, all the infrastructure is gone. On the other hand, no CIA. So, six of one... :V
 
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notbirdofprey said:
Weren't there some things going on in Quebec too that could count? And Cuba of course.
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Yep, just absolute chaos. Some of them are going to collapse or instantly become "uptime" dictatorships... but I feel like more than you might think won't?

I feel like either of the Zapistas would actually have a lot of staying power, for instance. Zapista's thing with basically Land to the Tiller, Peasant Republic, etc, etc sorta vibes will certainly have less struggles than an industrial proletariat having to adapt to a pre-pre-pre-industrial society. :V
 
The Laurent said:
Hmm, maybe actually! But yeah, South America is a mass of rebellions. On the one hand, all the infrastructure is gone. On the other hand, no CIA. So, six of one... :V
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Also on the other hand, every single revolutionary against Spain is going to strangle Bolivar once they read what he does in the future, hell Bolivar will probably get depressed and might try his best to become a better general.

Also a lot of people are going to try and kill eachother over here so it's basically a free for all until Bolivar or Jose De San Martín go and start slapping people.

Also on a related topic, can't unfortunately start this as I am already working on a project with revolutionary armies on ASOIAF but if anyone wants to write this or wants to know more about any Latin American Revolutionary leader from the 1800s I have a carpet full of links.

Also another disturbing thoughts we can't escape the Mormons or the Wacko people as they might count as revolutionaries
 
And Haiti! Which is a slave revolt, after all.

What about the French Revolution? That would conflict with the Paris Commune...but it would be fun to see.

Although it would probably be smart to keep it as only a couple, or maybe a multi-author project where each person takes one Revolution.
 
notbirdofprey said:
And Haiti! Which is a slave revolt, after all.

What about the French Revolution? That would conflict with the Paris Commune...but it would be fun to see.

Although it would probably be smart to keep it as only a couple, or maybe a multi-author project where each person takes one Revolution.
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Yeah, it's very much a multi-author idea, and the other part of the idea is, like, to keep it to (comparatively) small areas? Like, no completed states, only stuff in the revolutionary stages, successful or not. So no Soviet Union, no Egypt, etc.
 
I am reading the Malê timeline that was recommended in the alt history thread...the initial rebellion and some of the other Brazilian ones could be added in too.
 
Crossposting:

I've been thinking of an ISOT game that focuses on a virgin America, but with a twist: said Virgin America is ISOTed to an ATL that is exactly the same as ours, only until 1492, and then the ISOTs start happening

The game would have 30 turns per region of America (North, Central and Caribbean, and South America) and would represent the 30 weeks in between the start of the year and Columbus's arrival to the New World (well, technically 29, but since Internet says the 12th of October of 1492 was a Wednesday, the Monday of the 30th would have the final ISOT).

Of course, the technological level of said ISOTs would need to be mostly limited, else both natives and european explorer and settlers would be curbstomped and that ain't fun
 
TheUnicorn said:
If you're going to count Iran and Persia as one continuous country despite having periods of being conquered, broken up and changing both borders and names...then you need to also count Israel which was a country around a thousand years earlier.
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Gladsome said:
1066 is hardly a relevant year of independence for Scotland (founded c.843), Wales (either some time during the reign of Llewellyn the Great or from some point during the union with England or Great Britain), or Northern Ireland (1922).
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Yes, I wrote that post in a hurry, and I missed a few things. I went back and made a comprehensive list, and I've tentatively moved Iran to 1501 and the UK to 1603. I'm not counting name changes, regime changes, or minority territorial changes because that gets even more complicated, and I know I'm still glossing over some of the nuances. (I'm still keeping Japan as c. 400 CE, for example.) My criteria are:
  • A UN member or observer in its current borders (exceptions: Western Sahara, possibly Taiwan and Kosovo).
  • Has been more or less united (one dominant government in the territory) since the ISOT, excluding wartime.
  • Has been self-governed since the ISOT, also excluding wartime (so, not including Yuan China). I'm fudging the definition of "self-governed" a bit. At the moment, I'm counting vassals of the HRE as "self-governed", so Austria is ISOT from 976.
 
I just had an idea of Roy Mustang, Hawkeye and Maes Hughes from FMA get sent to the past to a revolution or a country, I a leaning to the early US revolution or perhaps the argentinian or Mexican revolution or that time Miranda tried to do a revolution with 200 people.

It could be curious how his alchemy would change those wars and how the world would react to a man being a literal nuke in the 1800s.
 
Hong Kong ISOT into the three kingdoms era, post massacre of the eunichs
 
Based on that insane plan from 1983 to move the population of Hong Kong to Northern Ireland, I've always wanted to see...well, Hong Kong ISOTed to Northern Ireland.

Surely it can only make the situation better!
 
TheUnicorn said:
I don't know enough about that to tell if it would be interesting, details?
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It is a period of time in which china fell into mass warlordism for around near a century with all sorts of assassination, romance, war, peacemaking, brotherhood, betrayal and so much more.
 
One I've always played with is the United States from November of 1941 from the Drakaverse, as well as Nazi Germany from the same, are ISOTed to our own 1941.
 
here is one of my idea at least. 21st-century japan got ISOT to planet Reach (Halo) or other planets within the UEG space. what would things goes on right there anyways how would the UNSC react?
 
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notbirdofprey said:
And Haiti! Which is a slave revolt, after all.

What about the French Revolution? That would conflict with the Paris Commune...but it would be fun to see.

Although it would probably be smart to keep it as only a couple, or maybe a multi-author project where each person takes one Revolution.
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Garibaldi Redshirts would be pretty fun to follow.
 
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