Into the Void (Legend of the Five Rings)

Third Person or Second Person

  • Second Person

    Votes: 26 34.7%
  • Third Person

    Votes: 49 65.3%

  • Total voters
    75
[X] Togashi
[X] Togashi Tattooed Order

Well I would rather play a kickass Shugenja, but that doesn't seem to be in the cards, so let's become a kickass Monk instead.
 
[X] Togashi
[X] The Hoshi Tsurui Zumi Order

I'd quite like to play as a little old man who sweeps the streets clad in saffron robes.

...actually, in real life, if I had been born an east asian man I'd would have learnt martial arts and become a garbage man entirely in preparation for my auspicious retirement to a city temple monastery. :oops:
 
[x] Togashi
Because becoming one of the first generation of Togashi's followers? Yes please! DB may be a filthy servant of Jigoku, but he knows his Elements!

As far as the school though, I'm somewhat torn. Sword Enlightenment is fun, and it'd mean upon that Kenjutsu would be our Jam, but MAGIC KAMI BLOODED TATTOOS! In the end, breathing fire decides it.
[x] Togashi Tattooed Order
 
After this is going to be another build vote and then some questions. I don't want the full 20 questions stuff but for their gempukku all Dragon are asked to do something surrounding the famous line from Shinsei "Neither will I". Whether it be a haiku, a work of art, or to reveal some kind of insight through another medium the perspective samurai is expected to show an understanding of the event and the inner meanings revealed there. So just a thought to keep going in the back of your mind as you go through these two votes.

As it came up on rolz, I will allow a Togashi Order Monk to buy an extra tattoo (4XP). So if you take that advantage you will start out with 3 tattoos.
 
[X] Togashi
[X] Togashi Tattooed Order

This is the history of the Empire, here. We should pick one of the famed schools from out of history if we're going to do anything. Anything other than Agasha, Mirumoto, or Ise Zumi feels... disrespectful to the source material to me. Maybe Taoist swordsman, since it isn't clear when that tradition started - but Kitsuki, Tamori, Hoshi Zumi, and Tsurui Zumi are right out.
 
[X] Togashi
[X] Togashi Tattooed Order

This is the history of the Empire, here. We should pick one of the famed schools from out of history if we're going to do anything. Anything other than Agasha, Mirumoto, or Ise Zumi feels... disrespectful to the source material to me. Maybe Taoist swordsman, since it isn't clear when that tradition started - but Kitsuki, Tamori, Hoshi Zumi, and Tsurui Zumi are right out.

Taoists showed up immediately following Togashi's acceptance of Shinsei's teachings. I would put them down as the people who view sword arts as one of the ways to enlightenment the same way the the followers of Togashi Kaze thought jiujutsu was a way of meditation.

Just as a heads up to everyone choosing the Togashi family. You will be expected to try for enlightenment and occasionally get cryptic advice from the Kami. Which you will have to figure out or doom some people.
 
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Maybe Taoist swordsman, since it isn't clear when that tradition started - but Kitsuki, Tamori, Hoshi Zumi, and Tsurui Zumi are right out.
Hello has said on rolz that the original Taoists would have fought in the war against Fu Leng. We will have learned from one of them and will probably be the first to embrace the "wandering warrior" path.
 
Hello has said on rolz that the original Taoists would have fought in the war against Fu Leng. We will have learned from one of them and will probably be the first to embrace the "wandering warrior" path.

I could be down. I'd prefer the tattooed order over the taoist - SV is short on Monk quests, and working as the direct emissary of Togashi could get interesting. The Taoists are reclusive members of a reclusive Clan; the Togashi monks simultaneouslyhave the rank of samurai and the license to act as monks and be inscrutable at people until they give you what you want. And, the Togashi are explicitly the historians of the Empire, which gives us carte blanche to interfere with history when we like...
 
My honest long term hope is, in addition to mucking around with the start of the Empire, to somehow alter the remit of the Badger Clan. They'er not going to be around for a while since we're starting in the year 50, but it never hurts to start planning. There's a vast fertile plain to the north of Rokugan according to the Continental Maps I've seen from Legend of the Burning Sands, and the Badger (and possibly the Dragon) are in an excellent position to exploit it if they go about it right.
 
Fertile is probably overselling it. Think more 'Northern Plains' than anything. Fertile enough with infrastructure but not as much without it.

Plus it's explicitly inhabited by the people who say the kami and went 'Yeah no fuck that noise' and were forced out of Rokugan proper.
 
I could be down. I'd prefer the tattooed order over the taoist - SV is short on Monk quests, and working as the direct emissary of Togashi could get interesting. The Taoists are reclusive members of a reclusive Clan; the Togashi monks simultaneouslyhave the rank of samurai and the license to act as monks and be inscrutable at people until they give you what you want. And, the Togashi are explicitly the historians of the Empire, which gives us carte blanche to interfere with history when we like...
Well it looks like we're going to be a member of the Togashi regardless of what vote wins, that sweet sweet Void is just too good to miss it seems. It seems that the main difference here is between going full on sword saint (with a few tattoos) and going full throttle down the Tattooed Monk route. Either way we're liable to be acting on Togashi's will.
 
Fertile is probably overselling it. Think more 'Northern Plains' than anything. Fertile enough with infrastructure but not as much without it.

Plus it's explicitly inhabited by the people who say the kami and went 'Yeah no fuck that noise' and were forced out of Rokugan proper.
Considering how much of the rest of the continent is blasted wasteland or impenetrable mountain or jungle, a large arable plain that's about a third to half the size of Rokugan inhabited by primitive screwheads is a pretty attractive target. It's even surrounded by distant mountains populated by MORE of them.

The Yobanjin are an issue yes, but if you set up a group with a mandate to conquer them over an extended period of time then it'll probably be fine. I say this because without the Kami their technology and magic falls drastically behind over the years. At the Dawn of the Empire, where we are now, they're somewhat of a threat, but they're also not in any way entrenched. Later on their weaponsmithing is vastly inferior, but they know the terrain fairly well. It evens out.

Basically, it's an area that could be exploited and has little in the way of natural defenses, rendering things down to a people vs people fight, and the Rokugani have a massive edge over the Yobanjin in that arena.
 
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Considering how much of the rest of the continent is blasted wasteland or impenetrable mountain or jungle, a large arable plain that's about a third to half the size of Rokugan inhabited by primitive screwheads is a pretty attractive target. It's even surrounded by distant mountains populated by MORE of them.

The Yobanjin are an issue yes, but if you set up a group with a mandate to conquer them over an extended period of time then it'll probably be fine. I say this because without the Kami their technology and magic falls drastically behind over the years. At the Dawn of the Empire, where we are now, they're somewhat of a threat, but they're also not in any way entrenched. Later on their weaponsmithing is vastly inferior, but they know the terrain fairly well. It evens out.

Basically, it's an area that could be exploited and has little in the way of natural defenses, rendering things down to a people vs people fight, and the Rokugani have a massive edge over the Yobanjin in that arena.
While it might be a good idea to conquer the Yobanjin in the long run try to keep in mind the political realities of the time.

1.Massive tracks of Rokugan are currently unsettled by humans.
2.The armies and peoples of Rokugan are depleted by the war against Fu Leng, and are currently engaged in tearing each other apart over feuds.
3.What parts of Rokugan that are settled by humans are often lawless and filled with ronin and Bandit Lords, the Lion won't finish "digesting" their territories for centuries.

External expansion isn't that attractive when the homefront is either wartorn, empty or lawless.
 
Considering how much of the rest of the continent is blasted wasteland or impenetrable mountain or jungle, a large arable plain that's about a third to half the size of Rokugan inhabited by primitive screwheads is a pretty attractive target. It's even surrounded by distant mountains populated by MORE of them.

The Yobanjin are an issue yes, but if you set up a group with a mandate to conquer them over an extended period of time then it'll probably be fine. I say this because without the Kami their technology and magic falls drastically behind over the years. At the Dawn of the Empire, where we are now, they're somewhat of a threat, but they're also not in any way entrenched. Later on their weaponsmithing is vastly inferior, but they know the terrain fairly well. It evens out.

Basically, it's an area that could be exploited and has little in the way of natural defenses, rendering things down to a people vs people fight, and the Rokugani have a massive edge over the Yobanjin in that arena.
Ignoring that they learn to summon Wyrms and shit, I don't think their tech is that inferior it's just perceived to be by the Rokugani. Keep in mind that the Rokugani hire these guys out for fighting, and the Moto will end up marrying them in often to get around the 7 generation rule.
 
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