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Infinite Horizons - The Futuristic Nationgame

I don't really feel like putting in the work needed for a redo and I'm stretched thin as is already.

If you ever restart world in chaos let me know though.
 
Mental Omega said:
I don't really feel like putting in the work needed for a redo and I'm stretched thin as is already.

If you ever restart world in chaos let me know though.
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That won't be till I get my comp back but yeah, after I am through several of my other RP obligations we can try resuming World of Chaos or even rebooting it. Whichever is more appropriate.

MS-21H 'Hawke' said:
@willyvereb
Can I go back to vague numbers on my military, and how do I do that?
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Yeah, nothing wrong with that IMO.
You can just explain your military in a brief prose, just like we did with the other categories.
Though some note on the size of your space force may be preferable since the numbers there are limited.
Maybe you can also write brief unit profiles if you want.
Anyways, I'll give you examples once I got behind an actual keyboard.
 
FPSlover said:
I am still doing actual numbers. Its better for warplans.
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That they are.
Though the more stats you write the more you clench yourself into a corner in terms of plotting. I don't mind (may even prefer) a skeleton of an army list but making it any more detailed can be at times counterproductive.

comped said:
Willy, did you decide who's co-modding yet?
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Of course not.
I will do that perhaps by the weekend.
I don't need tech or military mods since I can do that function myself. On the other hand I would need help with NPCs and possible events.

Oh, and by the way since Germany freed up then I perhaps make my Reform Communist nation I wanted to make prior (not first, that was the Hungarian Neo-Kingdom).
With @Altzek 's permission I may even keep the Italian communists to form an axis of revolution.
:lol
 
Hm, would the 2040's or 2050's be a good time period for the first mining colony on or near Ceres being set up? Or would the 2060's be better?
 
willyvereb said:
That they are.
Though the more stats you write the more you clench yourself into a corner in terms of plotting. I don't mind (may even prefer) a skeleton of an army list but making it any more detailed can be at times counterproductive.

Of course not.
I will do that perhaps by the weekend.
I don't need tech or military mods since I can do that function myself. On the other hand I would need help with NPCs and possible events.

Oh, and by the way since Germany freed up then I perhaps make my Reform Communist nation I wanted to make prior (not first, that was the Hungarian Neo-Kingdom).
With @Altzek 's permission I may even keep the Italian communists to form an axis of revolution.
:lol
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I'm really afraid that noone here really understands the RPR, considering that the odds that people are acquainted with the small (even fringe) Italian phenomenon of rossobrunismo and left-wing fascism are slim at best. To hell with this, I'm rejoining the game (with willy's permission), and while I'm at it, I apologize for the obstructions I caused in this thread.
 
Altzek said:
I'm really afraid that noone here really understands the RPR, considering that the odds that people are acquainted with the small (even fringe) Italian phenomenon of rossobrunismo and left-wing fascism are slim at best. To hell with this, I'm rejoining the game (with willy's permission), and while I'm at it, I apologize for the obstructions I caused in this thread.
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Granted.
Don't feel obliged by something you said in the heat of moment.
 
So Commie Italy, normal UK and Canada, techie USA, Poland got big, Scandies, Mars... Am I missing anyone?
 
There's also my nation out in the Asteroid belt around where a Ceres is. Which I'm currently trying to figure out the history of.
 
Bacon_commando said:
@MS-21H 'Hawke' , I think I should point out that the US also has an Air Force base in Greenland, as per agreement with Denmark and a part of a NATO Cold War defense strategy.
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The question is if that base will remain post WW3. I can easily see niether side wanting to set up a presence in Desolate Greenland post-war when resources are needed to rebuild at home. By the time the US gets around to even looking at greenland, it is likely that Scandinavia will have already established control there. There's also no real reason for Scandinavia to invite Technocrats into Greenland. Especially given Technocracy's Historical Links to Fascism. . .
 
KnightofTempest said:
The question is if that base will remain post WW3. I can easily see niether side wanting to set up a presence in Desolate Greenland post-war when resources are needed to rebuild at home. By the time the US gets around to even looking at greenland, it is likely that Scandinavia will have already established control there. There's also no real reason for Scandinavia to invite Technocrats into Greenland. Especially given Technocracy's Historical Links to Fascism. . .
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Well, there are the several billion barrels worth of oil in Greenlandish territory, along with the fact the US keeps trying to build nuclear weapon bases (Without the Danish knowing) there so they can launch nukes at Russia.

Those look like pretty good reasons to keep a military presence there.
 
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Bacon_commando said:
Well, there are the several billion barrels worth of oil in Greenlandish territory, along with the fact the US keeps trying to build nuclear weapon bases (Without the Danish knowing) there so they can launch nukes at Russia.
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The problem is that the Oil might not be as useful as it is now, what with alternative energy sources under development and whatnot. Hell Fusion is supposed to be relatively prevalent ITTL, so it's entirely possible that we would see that as a replacement for fossil fuels.

As to nukes being launched at Russia, I doubt the US is interested in yet another nuclear exchange after the one in WW3. . .
 
KnightofTempest said:
The problem is that the Oil might not be as useful as it is now, what with alternative energy sources under development and whatnot. Hell Fusion is supposed to be relatively prevalent ITTL, so it's entirely possible that we would see that as a replacement for fossil fuels.

As to nukes being launched at Russia, I doubt the US is interested in yet another nuclear exchange after the one in WW3. . .
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Most of the poorer countries in Africa/South America/Asia would probably still be using older tech, so it is possible to still make a ton of cash off it.

The US would probably wish to avoid another WW3, so nuclear weapons in range of quite a few major cities would be a great deterrent.
 
Bacon_commando said:
Most of the poorer countries in Africa/South America/Asia would probably still be using older tech, so it is possible to still make a ton of cash off it.

The US would probably wish to avoid another WW3, so nuclear weapons in range of quite a few major cities would be a great deterrent.
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It wasn't much of a deterrent last time. Also there are other nations in range of said warheads that have fusion ICBM Stockpiles of their own who probably wouldn't enjoy the US pointing missiles at them. If there's one thing that might get the New Russian State and the Intermarium to work together, it would be the US pointing missiles at both of them.
 
Oil is still a cheap source of carbons and other essentials for Earth. Methane fuel cells also require it, even if in less quantities than internal combustion engines.
 
Bacon_commando said:
Most of the poorer countries in Africa/South America/Asia would probably still be using older tech, so it is possible to still make a ton of cash off it.

The US would probably wish to avoid another WW3, so nuclear weapons in range of quite a few major cities would be a great deterrent.
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America still has plenty of supply in the Continental US and Alaska, and the foreign bases were sold to the home countries over the decade after the military take over to start working on settling the American Debt. Part of this was also a diplomatic move, to say that this America was not going to interfere so much in world affairs...some say that may be a factor in WW3...

and @KnightofTempest

I welcome the comparisons in game between America's Technocracy and Facism, conflict born out of misunderstanding is fun for games, As long as you understand Out of Character that this government was built as Benevolent and has Constitutional protections for Citizens and restrictions on Leadership... The system cannot create a Hitler or Nazi Germany as it stands now.

And something to consider, the US has strategic Weaponry and delivery systems(Strategic Bombers and Subs), AND ships in the inner system.
 
MS-21H 'Hawke' said:
America still has plenty of supply in the Continental US and Alaska, and the foreign bases were sold to the home countries over the decade after the military take over to start working on settling the American Debt. Part of this was also a diplomatic move, to say that this America was not going to interfere so much in world affairs...some say that may be a factor in WW3...

and @KnightofTempest

I welcome the comparisons in game between America's Technocracy and Facism, conflict born out of misunderstanding is fun for games, As long as you understand Out of Character that this government was built as Benevolent and has Constitutional protections for Citizens and restrictions on Leadership... The system cannot create a Hitler or Nazi Germany as it stands now.

And something to consider, the US has strategic Weaponry and delivery systems(Strategic Bombers and Subs), AND ships in the inner system.
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So does the Intermarium, probably so does the Neo-Russian State. The US isn't the world's sole superpower anymore. For that matter the Intermarium has invested in Surface to Orbit Railguns as a form of Anti-WMD defense, although I don't know if the Neo-Russians have too.

As to the Comparisons between Fascism and Technocracy the point I was attempting to make is that Technocracy as a concept was born from the minds of fascists like Albert Speer. It is very much in the same ideological spectrum and has often been described as "Fascism for Nerds." If yours is benevolent, then it can no longer be called Technocracy as such.
 
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