I don't understand how your government was able to rebuild America to such an extent? You'd have been victims of WW3 more than most others, I'd expect your population centres and much of natural resources were struck at. The weapons mightve been 'clean' but they still were highly destructive. The coutnries that make up my Pan-Pacific group are either the 2nd world remains of former 1st world nations, Korea, Japan, and Australia or rapidly growing and developing new 1st world powers, Indonesia, Philippines and NZ (to an extent as center of the Pacific islands Diaspora)which became so since they weren't as heavily targeted or plain out ignored as they weren't true threats to the Superpowers.
Give me your reason for why this Admin counsel was able to restitch America and make it powerful again in more detail. Hope for it soon!
Now the answer is even simpler; America did not join the war...though not on some moral 'lets not kill eachother' angle, but as a less negative version of the Bi-Polarization of the government not knowing who to support. The old government would have even been assassinated by eather one of the sides or a third party terrorist organization hoping to get a pro-their side government in the whitehouse and scare the rest into cooperating....they just didn't anticipate the Military seizing power in the post attack chaos. I'm even wondering about having it be a dirty bomb in washington
Ah, I see. Well, If he really wants to keep Australia as part of his claim, I will look somewhere else. Perhaps most of Scandinavia (Sweden, Norway and Finland, not Denmark)? From what I can tell, that has not been taken.
More than likely private enterprise. I imagine the nations would focus on the "return to the moon" and going to Mars, rather than NEO or asteroid belt mining
Name: United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland Common Demonym: British Type: Constitutional Monarchy Population: 150 million Holdings:
Earth: UK + Ireland
Earth Orbit: 2 cylinders at L points (not sure which, help?), both of which have RAF stations.
Moon: A medium colony, with RAF station.
Mars: A small colony-city.
General Description
The British are pretty much the same as they always have been. A mid-sized power, certainly not the powerhouse of Europe, or the world. It maintains a respectable position both at home and in space, and is very much wanting to compete in this new age.
History
The UK is basically the same as it always has been. It voted to stay out of the EU in 2016, and actually did rather well for itself after that. They muddled on until WW III, where London was nuked for almost no reason. The UK was not part of the war, as it has no real interests in the Pacific. That devastated the country, forcing a serious reevaluation of the UK's political and economic systems. After the war, with most of the country intact, rebuilding began. Ireland was annexed after the war, mainly since it owed far more then it could repay to the British banks.
Around 2070, the government began funding the UKSA at a much higher level then it had for the previous century. It established 2 stations in earth's orbit by 2080, and a small lunar colony by 2090. In 2100, the UK started a small colony-city on Mars. Not the biggest space power, or earth power, but then again, the British Empire took hundreds of years to build.
Culture/Society
The British are, well British. London was rebuilt after the war, and it is still the important governmental and financial centre that it always has been. Although not as much of a population centre, as much of the former residents spread out across the country. The West End theatres are still running, with Les Mis celebrating over 100 years of continuous run, minus the time it took to rebuild London, and the theatre. The BBC still is state run, but mostly shows on google-glass like eyewear that seemingly is all the rage.
King William VII took over from his father, William VI (George) in 2100, at the age of 22. After the nuclear disaster, King William VI is noted for temporarily using royal prerogative to take control of the country's armed forces, and almost launching a nuclear strike on China, before is wife talked him out of it. Both of them were very adored by the public, however, not as much as his great-grandmother, Elizabeth II, who ruled until 2030. Her Grandson, William V ruled until 2070.
There are Regional Assemblies for Scotland, Wales, England, London, and Ireland. Each has devolved powers for its region, mainly over infrastructure, education, local taxes, and a few other things. Most power is kept in Parliament though.
People get their news, and the internet, through google-glass like devices. These became popular once the technology started to work. Many, however, also use really fancy tablets, with power and specifications beyond our current desktops, which they use for most work and play. Robotic servants have yet to really catch on, however, the rich like them. And the humor is still as unfunny as always.
Economy/Industry
London, rebuilt, is still one of the financial centres of Europe. Sure, other places may be just as big, or bigger, like in the US, the Middle East, and Asia. But London is still King of the European market. The UK has, as a country, a good set of finances. Technology powers the economy, as many different technological companies are based in London. Agriculture is also a large part of the economy, however it is not enough to be self-sufficient. Energy is also important- mostly nuclear, but also some wind farms in Scotland. But the tech sector, along with some manufacturing, is what drives the UK's economy.
The UK has a few space ports, from which it supplies its holdings in space. One is part of the new Heathrow airport, constructed after the nuclear incident. The others are: Llanbedr (Wales), Dublin, Manchester, and Glasgow. The Royal Space Force's HQ is RSF Braze Norton, although it also uses RSF Lossiemouth and RSF Belfast.
Military
Active Duty Personnel
Royal Army:
460,000 x Regulars
5,000 x SAS (Air assault- with power armor)
5,000 x SBS (boat assault - with power armor)
5,000 x SRR (reconnaissance)
25,000 x Parachute Division (obvious)
Total: 500,000 troops
Royal Navy:
100,000 Marines
150,000 Pilots/ship crew
Total: 250,000
Royal Aerospace Force:
50,000 Space Marines
290,000 Pilots/ship crew
Total: 250,000
Total: 1 million troops
Equipment:
The UK nationalized its defense industry in 2021, following a series of increasingly costly contracts from BAE, as well as the country's reliance on it. Since then, after taking over the UK's other defense companies, it has become part of the Ministry of Defense itself. BAE manufactures all of the UK's defense equipment, which is fairly good as far as quality goes.
Each soldier has a rifle, the BAE 2101, chambered in 7.62×51, with a multi-function laser, and video sight.
Their helmet includes a HUD, secure jam-resistant wireless communications (through a earpiece/microphone that works via a bone conduction transducer that is seperate from the helmet), microelectronic/optics combat sensor suite that provides 360° situational awareness, GPS/compass locating system, and is bulletproof, and resists wind, rain, dust, and UV rays via the visor/HUD platform.
The armored jacket has much of the power for the system inside of it, as well as much of the computer system. Sensors provide medical information to commanders, as well as GPS positioning when on Earth. Earplugs, as well as a anti-NBC mask are provided, along with fire-proof knee, elbow pads & globes gloves, non-skid shoes, and ballistic/laser eye protection goggles. There is discussion on a exoskeleton being added to the uniform. Some troops have power armor.
Vehicles:
Royal Army:
2,000 x Challenger IV (with railgun)
4,000 x Warrior III IFV
1,000 Skywarrior Railgun Artillery
Royal Aerospace Force
When the UK went into space, the RAF militarized it, along with all the other militaries. The orbital and moon colonies have RAF stations, and there is talk of having a fully military station put up in the next few years.
Ground based forces:
300 x Eurofighter II fighter
300 x Cheetah transport/gunship VTOL
Space based forces:
Planes:
500x Hawk Aerospace Fighter
100 x Lion Strategic/Heavy Bomber
70 x Puma Transports/Gunships
10 x Lynx Strategic Transport
200x Falcon Fighter/Bomber
500x Ark Royal Non-Antimatter SSTO fighters (armed Skylons)
Ships:
1 x Queen Elizabeth II-class Super Carrier (100 plane capacity)
6 x Prince of Wales-class Destroyers
6 x Princess Royal-class Frigates
2 x Prime Minister-class Assault Carrier (50 plane capacity)
Royal Navy
The Royal Navy maintains 3 carrier groups, of which 1 is usually able to be deployed at a time, as well as an air wing for the carriers. (It it essentially a this-tech version of the IRL navy, scaled up a bit)
3 x King-class aircraft carrier
24 x Defiance-class railgun destroyer
12 x Knight-class SSN
4 x Country-class SSBN
150 x Eurofighter II fighter
100 x Cheetah VTOL
Person of Importance
Prime Minister Winston Churchill III
King William VII
Jed Francis Bartlet, Minister of Defense and CEO of BAE Systems
thanks, the 'America not in the war' thing makes the Technocratic government rebuilding the country a lot easier.
Now the answer is even simpler; America did not join the war...though not on some moral 'lets not kill eachother' angle, but as a less negative version of the Bi-Polarization of the government not knowing who to support. The old government would have even been assassinated by eather one of the sides or a third party terrorist organization hoping to get a pro-their side government in the whitehouse and scare the rest into cooperating....they just didn't anticipate the Military seizing power in the post attack chaos. I'm even wondering about having it be a dirty bomb in washington
I don't think you have a choice in whether or not you were in ww3. Ask Willy, but the intent was to level the playing field, which isn't possible if you didn't join.
Ah, I see. Well, If he really wants to keep Australia as part of his claim, I will look somewhere else. Perhaps most of Scandinavia (Sweden, Norway and Finland, not Denmark)? From what I can tell, that has not been taken.
PM him and ask. The worst he can do is say no. Who knows, he may even say yes. As for Scandinavia, perhaps they united post WW3 over concerns for another war in a decade or two ala WW2? Maybe they have a few colonies on the moon, on asteroids and on Mars, as well as a few space stations?
I took the UK not being involved in the war as an idea from Hawk, but I can change if possible. And yes, that entire soldier equipment section is all IRL stuff. I need help on some bits, mostly the space stuff, but also my population. I can cut down my non-space military as well, if you'd like, although it's only slightly bigger then IRL. Plese help me Willy.
I took the UK not being involved in the war as an idea from Hawk, but I can change if possible. And yes, that entire soldier equipment section is all IRL stuff. I need help on some bits, mostly the space stuff, but also my population. I can cut down my non-space military as well, if you'd like, although it's only slightly bigger then IRL. Plese help me Willy.
PM him and ask. The worst he can do is say no. Who knows, he may even say yes. As for Scandinavia, perhaps they united post WW3 over concerns for another war in a decade or two ala WW2? Maybe they have a few colonies on the moon, on asteroids and on Mars, as well as a few space stations?
Well narratively it seems that the whole point of WW3 is to allow for a sort of geopolitical reset. Even during World War 1 there were neutral parties, and based on military spending the only way a WW3 could take longer a year, would be if the United States wasn't involved in it, or everyone ramped up their military budget BUT the USA. Given that the USA is going through a lot of rebuilding I don't think @willyvereb would have issue
Also at some point WW3 will need to be discussed.
In the very vaguest of terms I think the most likely thing is either of the following
1. Russian v. China war
or 2.
India, Russia, China war
The second one would start with likely a fight over the Middle East falling apart. Rising Power India and ExpansionistRussia (acting through proxies in Central Asia) increasingly butt heads over regional matters. A breakdown or Civil War in Iran would force both to act, while Europe and the USA sit it out. The war starts firing nukes, but after a month or so China gets involved. Either uneasiness about the economy going south and needing a war to unify their populace, they act. Europe gets dragged into it because of China and/or India trying to box Russia in and collapse it. USA sits out, and the war prolongs because no one really has the material to win it. World War III just ends when the governments of those nations no longer exists and the soldiers quit the field.
Haven't read the nation profiles in a while, but everyone's stayed clear or going into too much detail on WW3, and it makes sense... generally it's a disaster, and no clear cut winner.
I hate the idea of major powers "not being involved" in WW3. That sounds like a huge "get out of jail free card", if you ask me.
On the other hand don't be so queazy about WW3's effects. It happened 50-60+ years ago depending on which country's point of view we take.
That's plenty of time to recover. Seriously, instead of looking at how terrible WW3 was to your faction try to distance yourself a bit and see it's a giant opportunity to develop your nation any way you like due to the aftermath.
WW3 wasn't the apocalypse. It was a big ugly war and by far the bloodiest but recovery happened relatively quick for most nations. I like if you write about how you rebuilt the nation but the distance of time means your population or industry are long past its effects.
Other issues like mentality or social taboos associated with WW3 may be more difficult to get over with, though.
But I repeat, dodging WW3 is usually the cheapest trick you can do and while I don't mind if some nations on Earth did it but don't treat this as a cheap way to avoid consequences. That annoys me to no end.
Well narratively it seems that the whole point of WW3 is to allow for a sort of geopolitical reset. Even during World War 1 there were neutral parties, and based on military spending the only way a WW3 could take longer a year, would be if the United States wasn't involved in it, or everyone ramped up their military budget BUT the USA. Given that the USA is going through a lot of rebuilding I don't think @willyvereb would have issue
Also at some point WW3 will need to be discussed.
In the very vaguest of terms I think the most likely thing is either of the following
1. Russian v. China war
or 2.
India, Russia, China war
The second one would start with likely a fight over the Middle East falling apart. Rising Power India and ExpansionistRussia (acting through proxies in Central Asia) increasingly butt heads over regional matters. A breakdown or Civil War in Iran would force both to act, while Europe and the USA sit it out. The war starts firing nukes, but after a month or so China gets involved. Either uneasiness about the economy going south and needing a war to unify their populace, they act. Europe gets dragged into it because of China and/or India trying to box Russia in and collapse it. USA sits out, and the war prolongs because no one really has the material to win it. World War III just ends when the governments of those nations no longer exists and the soldiers quit the field.
Haven't read the nation profiles in a while, but everyone's stayed clear or going into too much detail on WW3, and it makes sense... generally it's a disaster, and no clear cut winner.
which likely included London getting nuked as well. The EU could have been dragged into it quite easily. The USA staying out because of internal chaos, near civil war, and deliberate sabotage fits.
@Firebringer2077
I have no problems with nations staying neutral during WW3. Heck, that could be an explanation for minor powers how they built up more influence. It's a bit more difficult for major nations and generally I prefer if somebody doesn't just cheaps it out and pretend despite being a major force in the world they remained neutral in the worst war of all times. It'd be an easy and annoying way to overpower your nation and it wouldn't even make sense.
I have no problem with your version of the USA's history, though.
As for WW3, I imagined it as a series of smaller conflicts which had a synergistic effect of raising tensions until things got really messy. Basically it's less of major nations lining up between two blocks and fighting it out and more like minor nations have their own local conflicts with various involvement of the major nations and then it gets repeated for 10 years with constantly climbing intensity.
Also I don't think the USA actually has a good track record for making short wars. I can give you plenty examples for the opposite, actually.
Well narratively it seems that the whole point of WW3 is to allow for a sort of geopolitical reset. Even during World War 1 there were neutral parties, and based on military spending the only way a WW3 could take longer a year, would be if the United States wasn't involved in it, or everyone ramped up their military budget BUT the USA. Given that the USA is going through a lot of rebuilding I don't think @willyvereb would have issue
Also at some point WW3 will need to be discussed.
In the very vaguest of terms I think the most likely thing is either of the following
1. Russian v. China war
or 2.
India, Russia, China war
The second one would start with likely a fight over the Middle East falling apart. Rising Power India and ExpansionistRussia (acting through proxies in Central Asia) increasingly butt heads over regional matters. A breakdown or Civil War in Iran would force both to act, while Europe and the USA sit it out. The war starts firing nukes, but after a month or so China gets involved. Either uneasiness about the economy going south and needing a war to unify their populace, they act. Europe gets dragged into it because of China and/or India trying to box Russia in and collapse it. USA sits out, and the war prolongs because no one really has the material to win it. World War III just ends when the governments of those nations no longer exists and the soldiers quit the field.
Haven't read the nation profiles in a while, but everyone's stayed clear or going into too much detail on WW3, and it makes sense... generally it's a disaster, and no clear cut winner.
Few issues in regards to these scenarios... China and Russia, Russia and India. Allies. China and India is a thing though but neither side can effectively leverage their strengths strategically on account of geography.
Most likely India and China are the most depopulated countries as their nuclear arsenals focused on each other.
Quick Scenario when they became hostile CHina dragged in Pakistan, India protested to the UN and China blocked it, then NATO independently acted, perhaps sending a Relief force, a hospital ship protected by US destroyers. They were attacked by a Pakistani submarine. When talks were opened about this the Pakistani and Chinese delegation were attacked by Indian expat suicide bombers enrout to the meeting. The attack occured on American soil in New York.
Pakistan goes insane and declares war, China is implicitly recognized as being a part of said war. Then they begin clashing. And the world is dragged in, first Russia then the EU, then the BRICS and finally the ASEAN nations.
As for Scandinavia, perhaps they united post WW3 over concerns for another war in a decade or two ala WW2? Maybe they have a few colonies on the moon, on asteroids and on Mars, as well as a few space stations?
Yes, they all have troops committed to EU Battlegroups. Finland also would have been a battleground. Sweden definately would have at least been hit by airstrikes, although Norway probably could have opted out and withdrawn their troops, since they technically aren't an actual EU member. . .
Yes, they all have troops committed to EU Battlegroups. Finland also would have been a battleground. Sweden definately would have at least been hit by airstrikes, although Norway probably could have opted out and withdrawn their troops, since they technically aren't an actual EU member. . .
You are welcome. Glad to hear that my half baked idea interested you. As for SNF, they all have commitments to EU Battlegroups. Finland would also be a battleground with EU troops defending against Russian incursions. There is a high possibility of nukes being used on Finnish soil as well as many air raids over Swedish and Norwegian (as well as Finish) cities. Do not worry, the physical damage will be gone by the time the game starts. Mental damage may take a while though.
All this stuff about WW3 is getting me thinking about my version of the US' history.
I'm actually wondering about the US' downfall be a protracted conflict with ISIS and other terrorist powers in the 2020s, and have the Technocracy take over that much earlier...with the United States ignoring the war in favor of their own troubles. I will be drasticly decreasing the population in any case...
All this stuff about WW3 is getting me thinking about my version of the US' history.
I'm actually wondering about the US' downfall be a protracted conflict with ISIS and other terrorist powers in the 2020s, and have the Technocracy take over that much earlier...with the United States ignoring the war in favor of their own troubles. I will be drasticly decreasing the population in any case...
He said he didn't mind a few players sitting out, but my US' place in WW3 is still an open question...It probably will have taken part...
I just need to find a place for it in the war...I'm thinking about it being brought into a European conflict(maybe a Russian Invasion of Nato/Former-NATO nations?)
He said he didn't mind a few players sitting out, but my US' place in WW3 is still an open question...It probably will have taken part...
I just need to find a place for it in the war...I'm thinking about it being brought into a European conflict(maybe a Russian Invasion of Nato/Former-NATO nations?)
Looking at the post in question he only mentioned minor powers when talking about people sitting out, he said he would prefer major powers to not do so.
As to a war in Europe, there was a war between Russia and the EU, but it stalemated in Poland and Finland, mostly because Russia thought it could push to the German Border Conventionally and wound up destroying it's army in a series of running battles with the EU Forces, who were much better prepared than Russia thought they would be. By the time the Fusion Missiles Launched, China had somehow got dragged into the War as a third side and the nuclear exchange was 3 way. I would Imagine since the Russian Forces were stalemated at that point in Europe, the US would go after China, probably over something that happened between China and either Japan or South Korea.
Hope for it soon!
