Honestly I'm more inclined to believe that Lukas, as per his Trickster title, chases everything with a skirt the lulz rather than because he is actually a shameless manwhore.

It makes more sense than the Wolf Wolves of Wolfworld randomly being extra super special wolf snowflakes and somehow retaining their sex drive for no reason.


Although I guess it might just be because someone at GW wanted to make a 'horndog' pun. Which would be acceptable.
i think it was the pun. AAAND that they wanted to go whole hog on the "space viking" sthick.
 






I watched these two videos and I couldn't help but feel the state of the galaxy in Warhammer 40k could provide reasons of sorts in-story for the God Emperor of Mankind to finally summon the ship-girls from their slumber. It's not just the supernatural processes needed to gather them and do so, and using the warships themselves as conduits to gather the souls of the sons and daughters of the Imperium and giving them physical forms to exist and interact in the real world........ It's also when they are most needed let them loose at full power in both strength and numbers to make a difference.

Plus, the first video about reason #9 Technology Is Maintained, Not Understood (along with the other remaining reasons) sounds like another reason for the ship-girls, tank-dogs, etc. to be summoned as they have the collective knowledge and memories of their past crews, engineers and shipwrights who both built and maintained them. So hopefully, the lost/forgotten knowledge could finally be regained from them and their fairy crews.

Plus, from what little hints we've got from the Apocrypha chapters, it look like the ship-girls, tank-dogs, etc. could safely travel through FTL Warp Space as they are protected from the effects of the Warp due to the collective Imperium souls that gave them life and direction to serve the Imperium and God Emperor of Man. That might mean something for all human travelers they accompany when the humans have to use Warp Space FTL...... both for protection and navigation.

Finally, there is this part about Roboute Guilliman's Return and the Living Saint who helped him in the end of the paragraph. It sounds like it could fit with the increasing presence/summoning of the ship-girls and others due to the Emperor's summonings.
Return

Shortly after Abaddon the Despoiler's Thirteenth Black Crusade and the destruction of Cadia, the Tech-Priest Belisarius Cawl and Saint Celestine led a group of Imperial survivors into the Webway with the aid of their new Eldar allies. The group arrived at Macragge, where Cawl revealed that he had in fact lived for the last ten thousand years and was ordered by Guilliman himself to complete two tasks in the event of his downfall. One of these was to revive Guilliman, a feat that Cawl could now accomplish thanks to Eldar aid. Using a suit of Power Armour that regenerated the wounds inflicted by Fulgrim, Guilliman was restored just as Black Legion forces invaded Macragge. Reborn, Guilliman swiftly drove off the Chaos invaders before taking in the truths of the Imperium after his ten thousand year absence. Guilliman displayed several "miracles" after his rebirth, his mere presence was able to cure any afflicted with a Nurgle-created blindness-inducing illness.[17]

Disgusted by the decay, superstition, and ignorance that surrounds the modern Imperium, Guilliman convened a war council of his Ultramarines as to what to do next. After several days he declared his intent to travel to Terra and see his father upon the Golden Throne. However Guilliman's revival had attracted the gaze of the Gods of Chaos and Daemon Primarch's, throwing the Warp into an uproar. The journey to Terra, known as the Terran Crusade, became an arduous affair that saw his fleet trapped in the Maelstrom after an ambush by Magnus and his Thousand Sons. Inside the Maelstrom the Imperial expedition was defeated by Kairos Fateweaver and the Red Corsairs, with the Primarch himself trapped in crystal chains made from his own doubts. Held by Kairos inside a Blackstone Fortress, the Imperial expedition seemed doomed. However thanks to the efforts of the Harlequin Sylandri Veilwalker and the Fallen Angel Cypher Guilliman and the rest of the surviving expedition were freed and escaped towards a Webway Portal. Guilliman held the portal long enough for his men to escape, defeating the Bloodthirster Skarbrand after witnessing the sacrifice of Marshal Amalrich.[17]

The Imperial expedition eventually arrived through another portal on Luna, but this time were followed by Magnus and his Thousand Sons. On the surface of Luna, Magnus and Guilliman dueled as battle raged around them. Guilliman was overcome by Magnus' psychic abilities until the arrival of reinforcements from Terra that included Sisters of Silence. With Magnus' psychic abilities weakened, Guilliman was able to impale his daemonic brother and force him back into the Webway as the gate was sealed.[17]

Afterwards Guilliman landed on Terra and gained access to the Emperor's Throneroom inside the Imperial Palace. Standing completely alone before the Golden Throne for the next day, Guilliman emerged with a new determination. He gathered the High Lords of Terra and declared that the Imperium would be reorganized and rearmed under his leadership in order to confront the coming threat of Chaos. With that, Guilliman declared himself Lord Commander of the Imperium once more.[17] He later declared himself Imperial Regent, the living hand of the Emperor. One of his first major acts as Lord Commander was to defend Terra itself against the forces of Khorne in the Second Battle of Terra.

Guilliman subsequently declared the Indomitus Crusade to reclaim the devastated worlds isolated from Terra by the Great Rift. The campaign was waged for the next century, as Guilliman acted as supreme commander and chief administrator of the Imperium. He simultaneously oversaw vast campaigns spearheaded by Belisarius Cawl's new Primaris Space Marines and sweeping civic reforms which culminated in the Codex Imperialis. As the Indomitus Crusade wound down, he rushed back to Ultramar to protect his sons from the Onslaught of Nurgle.[18] During the Plague Wars, Guilliman battled his former brother Mortarion on Iax saved and survived an assassination attempt by Mortarion, Typhus and Ku'Gath on Parmenio. Guilliman was nearly cornered in the trap but was saved by the efforts of a mysterious young girl that seemed to be a powerful Living Saint.[22a]
 
Depends on where they are in the timeline; the Cadian Guard are actually the default Imperial Guard regiment in the 41st millennium

Well, no, Cadian-type equipment is the default, not Cadian regiments proper. As much as Cadian has a 200% recruitment rate and posses a disproportionally huge amount of regiments considering their population, there's no way they represent even just 1% of the Imperium's total forces. The Imperium is big.

But still, 1000 men is way too small for a 41st millennium Cadian regiment.

fifth edition codex via lexicanum said:
The size and composition of Imperial Guard regiments is not standardised across the Imperium; the number of individual Guardsmen alone can vary enormously between regiments, with some only a few hundred strong at founding-strength, whilst others possess tens of thousands of fighting troops.

Are Cadian regiments usually larger when founded? Probably, unless they're Kasrkin or something. But the size of an Imperial Guard regiment is pretty much 'enough men to accomplish its objectives' and this can vary widely depending on the quality of the troops and on the mission.

Heck, even Cain's Valhallan 597th was one-thousand strong when it was formed by welding together the remnants of two regiments, which suggests 1000 troops is considered enough for at least some duties.
 
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Well, no, Cadian-type equipment is the default, not Cadian regiments proper. As much as Cadian has a 200% recruitment rate and posses a disproportionally huge amount of regiments considering their population, there's no way they represent even just 1% of the Imperium's total forces. The Imperium is big.
You'd think so, wouldn't you?

And yet, Cadian regiments just keep showing up, like, everywhere.

It is actually canon that "Because of the sheer quantity of Cadian regiments produced, thousands of them are sent to warzones across the galaxy at any one time", something that Cadia can only achieve because their entire population is militarized. As in the recruitment rate of the Cadian Guard is equal to their birth rate. The planet Cadia alone had a population of ~850 million, every single one a Guardsman. The Cadian system had at least 2 other Fortress Worlds with similar populations, 2 Industrial Worlds with potential populations up to ~10 billion, 1 Fortified Hive World with a potential population of over 2 trillion and a Space Marine Chapter Homeworld in the form of a Fortress Monastery\Orbital Shipyard with a population of who the hell even knows.

And that is just the Cadian star-system, the Cadian Sector contained multiple sub-systems, each containing multiple star-systems, exact quantity unclear.


So yeah, the Cadian Sector could in fact be responsible for a statistically significant number of Imperial Guard Regiments throughout the galaxy, because I poked around a bit in the Lexicanum and other places, and it actually turns out that a 1000 man Cadian regiment is in fact a lot less strange than it sounds:

The 8th Cadian, CREEEEEED!'s personal regiment, was comprised of approximately 8000 Guardsmen divided into roughly 24 companies, of which 2 companies were always training and 2 others were always garrisoning the two Fortress Worlds in the Cadian system. (Obviously none of this applies post Fall of Cadia.)

The reason for this is because there isn't actually any such thing as a 'normal' Cadian Guardsman; every Cadian Guardsman is a Cadian Shock Trooper, considered elite soldiers of the Imperial Guard that form the cores around which an infantry regiment is built. Outside of Cadia, there aren't actually any pure Cadian regiments, and this is why the Cadian regiments manage to show up all over the Imperium despite their low numbers; a 'Cadian' regiment is not comprised entirely of Cadians, it is a regiment that has one or more significant companies of Cadian Shock Troopers as its infantry core.


In light of this, an honor guard of 1000 Cadian Shock Troopers is in fact actually pretty srs bsns, and a very significant show of force, even for a battleship: Cadian Shock Troopers are basically the Imperial equivalent of the USMC.
(Kasrkin, incidentally, are the Cadian Shock Trooper version of Storm Troopers, who are the normal Imperial Guardsmen elites. Cadian Shock Troopers are generally considered to be interchangeable with Storm Troopers, because they're just that good.)
 
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And yet, Cadian regiments just keep showing up, like, everywhere.

It is actually canon that "Because of the sheer quantity of Cadian regiments produced, thousands of them are sent to warzones across the galaxy at any one time"

The Cadian system had at least 2 other Fortress Worlds with similar populations, 2 Industrial Worlds with potential populations up to ~10 billion, 1 Fortified Hive World with a potential population of over 2 trillion and a Space Marine Chapter Homeworld in the form of a Fortress Monastery\Orbital Shipyard with a population of who the hell even knows.

Yes, Cadians are all over the galaxy. The fact that they keep showing up in the fluff instead of nameless regiment #3857, however, is mostly for the writers' convenience. The Imperium canonically has more than a million worlds, and a significant percentage of those are hive worlds - even if every world besides those in the Cadia system only had an average 0.001% recruitment rate, the numbers would still add up.

Heck, the point about Cadian shocktroopers being treated as elite further proves my point. They wouldn't be elite if they were commonplace, because then the imperial guard would just be, statistically speaking, that badass.

it actually turns out that a 1000 man Cadian regiment is in fact a lot less strange than it sounds:

Glad we agree on 1000 strong Cadian regiments being a thing.

As for the situation in the 42nd millenium.... well, I'd say the rails of canon have just been thoroughly rearranged by the way of an Apocalypse battleship.

...wait, why is this thread active again, btw?

*looks*

Oh, new chapter, nice!

*goes to read*
 
Note: Lucian Ventris - despite being a Veteran Sergeant of the Ultramarines First Company - managed to father a son (Uriel Ventris)...
Wat.

Wat.

That.

I don't even.

Wat.


I know Graham McNeill's writing style leaves something to be desired RE: Showing instead of Telling, but what the actual fuck?

He has to have gotten a girl pregnant shortly before being recruited; Space Marines are capable of sex, but they both lack a sex drive and are very much absolutely not capable of impregnating a woman; the genetic modifications are far too extensive to make Space Marine genes compatible with baseline humans. That's a major reason why Space Marines have to be made, rather than born: The Emprah rushed the project and so skipped trying to make the Space Marine upgrade work for females as well as males, this made it easier to create a stable, working process at the expense of making it impossible for Space Marines to reproduce. This was seen as an acceptable trade for what was supposed to be a temporary stop-gap measure, as the Emprah intended to engage in a universal transhuman upgrade program once he finished the Human Webway and had a reliable, safe, non-demonic method of FTL to keep everything together.
(Then Magnus did a stupid and everything went to shit.)


Wait. Hang on. Lucian died in 745.M41, Uriel was born in 876.M41, over a century after Lucian's death.

Yeah, Uriel isn't Lucian's son, he's his descendant, Lucian must have had at least one child before he got recruited, and Uriel is his multiple-great grandson. Not the same thing at all; Space Marines do have families after all, as they're typically recruited in their late teens and in the Grim Dark Future teenage pregnancies are pretty normal in the kind of shitholes that most Space Marine Chapters recruit from. IIRC Salamanders even 'retire' to live with their families under certain conditions, said families being the various descendants of their relatives from before they became transhuman.
 
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It is actually canon that "Because of the sheer quantity of Cadian regiments produced, thousands of them are sent to warzones across the galaxy at any one time", something that Cadia can only achieve because their entire population is militarized. As in the recruitment rate of the Cadian Guard is equal to their birth rate.
*Sad Krieger Noise
The quality of Cadian troopers is well known across the galaxy. It leads to most IG taking after Cadians themselves in both unifiorm and tactics. Or at least that what it says in this here IG rule book I picked up.

It should also be noted that most of these Cadian regiments are typically able to retire to a nice and secluded planet somewhere. A planet where they can train even more Cadian-like regiments.
 
*Sad Krieger Noise
The quality of Cadian troopers is well known across the galaxy. It leads to most IG taking after Cadians themselves in both unifiorm and tactics. Or at least that what it says in this here IG rule book I picked up.

It should also be noted that most of these Cadian regiments are typically able to retire to a nice and secluded planet somewhere. A planet where they can train even more Cadian-like regiments.
Pretty much, like I said; a 'Cadian' regiment isn't actually comprised of Cadians, it's just a regiment that is built around a core of Cadians. Most 'Cadian' regiments probably only have a few thousand actual Cadians in them, the rest are normal Guardsmen, though probably above average performance-wise thanks to the Cadian influence in training and the like.

And yeah, the Death Korps of Krieg do the 100% militarized population thing too, but their numbers don't even come close to the Cadian numbers due to their habit of dying honorably in battle. Plus Krieg, unlike Cadia, is only a single world rather than an entire sector, so they have a much lower population to draw on in the first place.

Still, the Death Korps have one thing over the Cadians; they do not break. Ever. Cadians are extremely difficult to break, but it can be done. The Death Korps though? Not a chance. The Death Korps do not break. They die, but they do not break.

(To give you an idea of just how ridiculous the Death Korps are, Commissars in the Death Korps do not maintain order, their job is to ease interaction between Krieg and non-Krieg regiments and reign in the Krieg self-sacrificing mentality. That's right, in Krieg, Commissar orders you not to die.)
 
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Lucian must have had at least one child before he got recruited
Aren't would-be Astartes recruited at their childhood?

Anyway, my reply was based on nebulous memory of a book which I read some years ago, and hectic search for the info about the name of Uriel's ancestor. So, when I got the first result, I don't even cared to read the article in detail...
 
Aren't would-be Astartes recruited at their childhood?
Typical conversion age is 16 - 18, though anywhere up to early 30s is not unheard of. Recruits are often tapped as young as ~10 - 12, but they only get basic hormonal treatments and organ transplants before then and don't undergo the full genetic conversion process until late teens, though said hormonal treatments mean that by the time they are 16 - 18 they are physically mid 20s growth-wise.

It also varies a lot from chapter to chapter; the Wolf Wolves for instance have an especially Wolfy gene-seed that makes it particularly difficult for older recruits to adapt to, so they almost never recruit anyone older than the late teens and they generally try to recruit at around age 12 to avoid complications. The Ultramarines on the other hand have been known to recruit middle-aged men under the right circumstances.
 
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(To give you an idea of just how ridiculous the Death Korps are, Commissars in the Death Korps do not maintain order, their job is to ease interaction between Krieg and non-Krieg regiments and reign in the Krieg self-sacrificing mentality. That's right, in Krieg, Commissar orders you not to die.)
I heard those crazy gas-mask wearing motherfuckers once managed to beat Khorne Berzerkers. In melee. With only their shovels.
 
Considering that depending on the regiment individual companies can be in the range of ten thousand men? Yeah, it's a bit small for a 41k regiment.
Not sure if this helps but here is an OOB I have found Depicting a Cadian Armored and Infantry Regiment.

Either The Imperial Guard is a lot smaller than previously thought, or whoever made this Mistook Battalion for Regiment.
 
Early teens. Typically no later than 14 due to the need to begin implantation by then.
I edited the post, recruitment is usually early teens, but the actual conversion doesn't take place until late teens, with only a few organ transplants and basic hormonal treatments prior.

And even then it varies a lot from Chapter to Chapter, some Chapters have much more finicky gene-seed than others, but generally speaking even the most finicky Chapters like the Wolf Wolves don't get the full genetic augmentation until late teens. (And it is heavily implied that the Fenrisian population that the Wolf Wolves draw on for recruits are themselves already substantially geneered for rapid growth, reaching physical adulthood equivalent to a ~20 year old baseline human by ~13 or earlier.)

Not sure if this helps but here is an OOB I have found Depicting a Cadian Armored and Infantry Regiment.

Either The Imperial Guard is a lot smaller than previously thought, or whoever made this Mistook Battalion for Regiment.
I think you're right about the 'mistook Battalion for Regiment' aspect, because after poking around the lore a bunch the vast majority of the numbers given for Regiments are at least an order of magnitude too small and make a lot more sense as Battalions instead.

Not sure if this is a 'future people use the terms differently' deliberate thing, or a case of 'authors have no sense of scale' stupidity. I'd judge even odds either way.
 
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Not sure if this is a 'future people use the terms differently' deliberate thing, or a case of 'authors have no sense of scale' stupidity. I'd judge even odds either way.
This is Geedubs we're talking about here, I'm willing to bet it's the latter rather than the former (these are the same dimwits who thought that two Tiger 2 engines would be able to propel a 319 ton vehicle, the same engine that I'm fairly certain was barely able to propel the Tiger 2 itself, never mind a vehicle that's at least 3-4 times it's weight)
 
Lukas the Trickster?
The one and only.

I'm still trying to figure out how Lukas the Trickster managed to be such a manwhore as a Space Marine.

Space Marines don't have a sex drive! :jackiechan:
its the fenrisian ale. thats how. *and some of the space wolves are the exception to that rule.*
The Wolves are the exceptions to the rule apparently in regards to a lot of things.
 
An interesting thing about Kreigers: They don't reproduce normally. They use Vita-Womb technology (essentially growing kids in uterine replicators) to do entire new generations wholesale. This results in A LOT of new Kreigers all at once, and the vast majority of them are boys, with enough girls made to replace losses in the factories.

The girls run the factories, mines, etc on Krieg. It's a War World: they don't just provide manpower for the regiments they muster, they make the tanks, armor, guns, and everything else that a new regiment needs at the same time. They are -constantly- churning out new regiments on an industrial scale, and -every single one- of them is indoctrinated since they were decanted from their metalic mothers into the Cult of Sacrifice.

What's that, you say? Well, lemme tell you. Every Krieger believes, to the bottom of their soul, that due to the Sins their forefathers committed, there is literally no sacrifice great enough to expunge their Sins.

Krieg done fucked up. Krieg fucked up bigtime. There's actually a hotly-fought debate raging on Krieg whether or not what BLOODY HORUS did was as bad as what Krieg spawned. The reason the planet is a radioactive hell-hole? Because Krieg's leadership tried to succeed from the Imperium, and the local guard regiments banded together to stop them, by any means necessary.

Did I mention that Krieg was a stockpile of Dark Age of Technology weapons? Some of those included Rad-Weapon ICBMs.

The Adeptus Ministratum was -quite surprised- to get a message from Krieg 500 years after they nuked themselves back to the stone age, saying that they were still loyal to the Imperium, and requesting to send their regiments to the worst possible hell-holes in the Imperium, to fight and bleed and die to do their part to cleanse their Sin.

The Munitorum asked for a regiment, to see what they could do. Krieg gave them TWENTY. Needless to say, the Munitorum was HIGHLY PLEASED with these guys, and turned the entire damn planet into a factory producing entire goddamn ARMIES.

To even become an Officer in a Krieger regiment, you need to first serve in the Grenadiers. And they only take the big ones, so if you're even just average-sized, you're SOL for that shiny officer's hat. After you survive being a Grenadier for a while (not easy, if 80% of kriegers die in their first engagement, it was a -good- one), you hafta then serve as a Watchman (Sergeant). After that, you get tapped for Quartermaster duty, where you have to wander around the battlefield and figure out who'd be more use to the war effort alive, and who would just be a waste of resources. Oh, and be sure to get the boots, always need more boots. After you survive running around No Man's Land getting your ass shot at by -both- sides, then and only then do you get the shiny officer's hat.

Yeah, to say that Kriegers are hardcore isn't saying much. To say that Kriegers put to shame every other regiment in the galaxy when it comes to bloody-minded persistence and willingness to sacrifice to achieve the goal? Not an exageration.

These are the crazy fuckers who -like- tunnel-fighting! They actually -thank you-, when you tell them that they'll be digging down a kilometer or two, working in absolutely filthy, sweaty, dark, cramped places with barely-breathable air for days and weeks and months on end, digging a tunnel into the enemy lines and hopefully getting close enough to break -into- the enemy fortress, all the while under constant physical strain and with the knowledge that at any moment, the entire damn tunnel could collapse due to enemy action, or even just bad luck, burying the Kriegers alive!

Sorry for the long rant. Can you tell that I like Kriegers? ^^
 
Hey MadmanAndre? Are you okay? You mentioned having hurricane troubles, but didn't mention much beyond that. You are in a safe spot, right?
 
An interesting thing about Kreigers: They don't reproduce normally. They use Vita-Womb technology (essentially growing kids in uterine replicators) to do entire new generations wholesale. This results in A LOT of new Kreigers all at once, and the vast majority of them are boys, with enough girls made to replace losses in the factories.

The girls run the factories, mines, etc on Krieg. It's a War World: they don't just provide manpower for the regiments they muster, they make the tanks, armor, guns, and everything else that a new regiment needs at the same time. They are -constantly- churning out new regiments on an industrial scale, and -every single one- of them is indoctrinated since they were decanted from their metalic mothers into the Cult of Sacrifice.

What's that, you say? Well, lemme tell you. Every Krieger believes, to the bottom of their soul, that due to the Sins their forefathers committed, there is literally no sacrifice great enough to expunge their Sins.

Krieg done fucked up. Krieg fucked up bigtime. There's actually a hotly-fought debate raging on Krieg whether or not what BLOODY HORUS did was as bad as what Krieg spawned. The reason the planet is a radioactive hell-hole? Because Krieg's leadership tried to succeed from the Imperium, and the local guard regiments banded together to stop them, by any means necessary.

Did I mention that Krieg was a stockpile of Dark Age of Technology weapons? Some of those included Rad-Weapon ICBMs.

The Adeptus Ministratum was -quite surprised- to get a message from Krieg 500 years after they nuked themselves back to the stone age, saying that they were still loyal to the Imperium, and requesting to send their regiments to the worst possible hell-holes in the Imperium, to fight and bleed and die to do their part to cleanse their Sin.

The Munitorum asked for a regiment, to see what they could do. Krieg gave them TWENTY. Needless to say, the Munitorum was HIGHLY PLEASED with these guys, and turned the entire damn planet into a factory producing entire goddamn ARMIES.

To even become an Officer in a Krieger regiment, you need to first serve in the Grenadiers. And they only take the big ones, so if you're even just average-sized, you're SOL for that shiny officer's hat. After you survive being a Grenadier for a while (not easy, if 80% of kriegers die in their first engagement, it was a -good- one), you hafta then serve as a Watchman (Sergeant). After that, you get tapped for Quartermaster duty, where you have to wander around the battlefield and figure out who'd be more use to the war effort alive, and who would just be a waste of resources. Oh, and be sure to get the boots, always need more boots. After you survive running around No Man's Land getting your ass shot at by -both- sides, then and only then do you get the shiny officer's hat.

Yeah, to say that Kriegers are hardcore isn't saying much. To say that Kriegers put to shame every other regiment in the galaxy when it comes to bloody-minded persistence and willingness to sacrifice to achieve the goal? Not an exageration.

These are the crazy fuckers who -like- tunnel-fighting! They actually -thank you-, when you tell them that they'll be digging down a kilometer or two, working in absolutely filthy, sweaty, dark, cramped places with barely-breathable air for days and weeks and months on end, digging a tunnel into the enemy lines and hopefully getting close enough to break -into- the enemy fortress, all the while under constant physical strain and with the knowledge that at any moment, the entire damn tunnel could collapse due to enemy action, or even just bad luck, burying the Kriegers alive!

Sorry for the long rant. Can you tell that I like Kriegers? ^^
*shakes head in disappointment*
If you liked the Death Corps, you would have mentioned Vrax
 
*shakes head in disappointment*
If you liked the Death Corps, you would have mentioned Vrax

Where do you think I got all that intel, HMMMMM? ^^

And while I loved the first half of that series, once the Inquisitor took over, things became more about the Chaos, and less about the Kriegers. No fault of the YouTuber, just the reality of Vraks.
 
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