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Heroes, Great and Mighty (Exalted x World of Darkness)

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I know what the Compact she's talking about is, however, I'm very much unfamiliar with every nuance of WoD.

Here's a prototype/tentative vote. It's not complete, so advice would be welcome.

[] "Ok, then. I'll help you."
[] "Two caveats. First, My sister doesn't get involved. EVER. If anything happens to her, I'm going Scorched Earth. On everyone. If something happens to me, she gets out of the city and given a better life. And I mean BETTER. Second, no experiments. I don't want to wake up on a lab table, completely naked, with half my organs out because they want to see what makes me tick."
[] "In return, I'll help out your 'Agents' when I can."
 
Soooo that's a thing. Just so everybody knows, a Warlock/Mastigos Mage has the powers of Mind and Space. While Task Force: VALKYRIE is a US government operation dedicated to hunting down and eliminating the inexplicable with very big guns. So Naomi can read (possibly control) peoples' thoughts and find (possibly go) anywhere. And she does this in service of destroying the weird for national security.

What I'm saying is she is likely not the most trustworthy person around.

[X] Write in: "Managing the supernatural"? Is that what you're doing here? Managing me? Convince me that I can trust you and your Task Force.
 
LinkOnScepter said:
Guessing our answer?

I'm working on something, but I'm unsure of it.
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Fair enough.

Personally, I'm disinclined to join up with Task Force VALKYRIE... IIRC, they're dedicated to eradicating all the supernatural factions. They're government spooks, and tend to be the sort that go "kill 'em all to protect the general public" from the couple games I've played that ran into 'em.

Because that's what they are - the US Government's idea of how to deal with supernatural stuff. All the issues of having a secret goverment-backed paramilitary organization with virtually no serious oversight, and a bunch of propoganda about how they're the best shot of normal people being safe against all the supernatural shit in the world. And they do that with lots of weaponry designed to kill every variety of supernatural they come across...

Yeah, it'd be nice to have them be friendly with us, but no way in hell do we want to work for them if we don't want to turn into a government operative devoted to the monitoring and destruction of every supernatural faction in the area...
 
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kenmadragon said:
Fair enough.

Personally, I'm disinclined to join up with Task Force VALKYRIE... IIRC, they're dedicated to eradicating all the supernatural factions. They're government spooks, and tend to be the sort that go "kill 'em all to protect the general public" from the couple games I've played that ran into 'em.
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I've only ever read about them in the Hunter: The Vigil. From what I gather, they're essentially the "Good Guys who do Bad Things for Sorta Good Reasons" group.

They want to help humans, but do so by being exceedingly horrible towards supernaturals in general.

Edit: Then again, I suppose it's up to the ST on whether they're one or the other.
 
LinkOnScepter said:
I've only ever read about them in the Hunter: The Vigil. From what I gather, they're essentially the "Good Guys who do Bad Things for Sorta Good Reasons" group.

They want to help humans, but do so by being exceedingly horrible towards supernaturals in general.

Edit: Then again, I suppose it's up to the ST on whether they're one or the other.
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Basically, yeah.

Honestly, they're great to have as allies... but if you're an "Extra-Normal" (which Malcolm totally is), then it's not a fun place to work. Especially because they're basically the Men In Black, only their policy on dealing with Extra-Normals is to kill them with vicious impunity using specialized weaponry. They also have a nasty habit of killing anyone that threatens to reveal the truth about the supernatural to mundane folks...

Oh, and they're basically operated by the government, but without any real oversight. And yet... they're still run using a nightmarish bureacracy and tons of red tape. *shudders*.

Honestly, they're still one of the better Conspiracies to work for... if you're a vanilla human. Not for a Zenith Caste Solar like us, whose power is to spread righteousness to all, not just safe-guard the mundane populace.
 
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kenmadragon said:
Basically, yeah.

Honestly, they're great to have as allies... but if you're an "Extra-Normal" (which Malcolm totally is), then it's not a fun place to work. Especially because they're basically the Men In Black, only their policy on dealing with Extra-Normals is to kill them with vicious impunity using specialized weaponry. They also have a nasty habit of killing anyone that threatens to reveal the truth about the supernatural to mundane folks...

Oh, and they're basically operated by the government, but without any real oversight. And yet... they're still run using a nightmarish bureacracy and tons of red tape. *shudders*.
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Understood.

We've got two days.

[X] "What specifically did you and your organization have in mind by 'help'? I'm not an assassin."

[X] "Everything that you have told me sounds peachy. Is there anyway I could verify what you told me?"

[X] "I am not going to pretend that dressing up like the MiB and protecting the people of boston from supernatural predators doesnt appeal to me..."
-[X] "But I have regular life concerns as well. Keeping maggie safe, holding down a job, ect... What are you planning on giving me for helping you?"

I'll stick with this unless someone makes something better.
 
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[X] Write in: "Managing the supernatural"? Is that what you're doing here? Managing me? Convince me that I can trust you and your Task Force.
-[X] I appreciate the heads up about all the weirdness out there, but I'm not so sure allying with some government group no one knows about is what's best for me. I'm not a civil servant.



1d4chan described Task Force: VALKYIRE fairly well, IMO.
Task Force: VALKYRIE: MIBs, conspiracy creators, and America's last line of paranormal defense. Great story, but the execution isn't quite as neat as it sounds. They're composed of various government entities (i.e. military, law enforcement, and so on) and designed to prevent supernatural subversion, but in practice it's a bureaucratic clusterfuck that can barely keep track of which monsters they're supposed to be killing - this naturally draws ire since performing their duties entails watching literally everyone, themselves included. But at least they get to carry around a laser cannon and ghost-killing bullets when they need to. Oh, and only some of the top brass know that most of their budget secretly comes from vampires using the organization to deal with their rivals.
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[X] Write in: "Managing the supernatural"? Is that what you're doing here? Managing me? Convince me that I can trust you and your Task Force.
-[X] I appreciate the heads up about all the weirdness out there, but I'm not so sure allying with some government group no one knows about is what's best for me. I'm not a civil servant.
--[X] Just because your human or government run doesn't mean your the good guy here I mean just look at MK Ultra. I also need some time to think I mean this is a big deal
---[X] I'm willing to be friendly though anything more than not trying to make things worse will have to wait for me to sort through this
 
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kenmadragon said:
I'm confused.

Write Ins for what?

Naomi just gave an introduction, and then you're asking for Write Ins, but not clarifying what to Write In for...
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Malcom's reactions, his immediate answer (yes, no, give me more information, etc) and any questions or concerns he might have. Sorry if I was unclear.

GAZman said:
Soooo that's a thing. Just so everybody knows, a Warlock/Mastigos Mage has the powers of Mind and Space. While Task Force: VALKYRIE is a US government operation dedicated to hunting down and eliminating the inexplicable with very big guns. So Naomi can read (possibly control) peoples' thoughts and find (possibly go) anywhere. And she does this in service of destroying the weird for national security.

What I'm saying is she is likely not the most trustworthy person around.
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There is a reason for this, and a lot of it relates to her character arc (assuming you go down that path). For now I'll just say that while the gameline of the Chronicles of Darkness assumes that each splat exists in a vacuum, Heroes: Great and Might does not and assumes that the splats are interacting with each other all the time.

With this consideration in mind, I refuse to believe that at one point some higher up at TFV never thought to themselves "Say, why don't we get a few of the good-ish supernaturals types on our side and throw them at the bad supernaturals?"
 
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LinkOnScepter said:
I know what the Compact she's talking about is, however, I'm very much unfamiliar with every nuance of WoD.

Here's a prototype/tentative vote. It's not complete, so advice would be welcome.

[] "Ok, then. I'll help you."
[] "Two caveats. First, My sister doesn't get involved. EVER. If anything happens to her, I'm going Scorched Earth. On everyone. If something happens to me, she gets out of the city and given a better life. And I mean BETTER. Second, no experiments. I don't want to wake up on a lab table, completely naked, with half my organs out because they want to see what makes me tick."
[] "In return, I'll help out your 'Agents' when I can."
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i like this

[X] "Ok, then. I'll help you."
[X] "Two caveats. First, My sister doesn't get involved. EVER. If anything happens to her, I'm going Scorched Earth. On everyone. If something happens to me, she gets out of the city and given a better life. And I mean BETTER. Second, no experiments. I don't want to wake up on a lab table, completely naked, with half my organs out because they want to see what makes me tick."
[X] "In return, I'll help out your 'Agents' when I can."
 
Ave Anathema said:
i like this

[X] "Ok, then. I'll help you."
[X] "Two caveats. First, My sister doesn't get involved. EVER. If anything happens to her, I'm going Scorched Earth. On everyone. If something happens to me, she gets out of the city and given a better life. And I mean BETTER. Second, no experiments. I don't want to wake up on a lab table, completely naked, with half my organs out because they want to see what makes me tick."
[X] "In return, I'll help out your 'Agents' when I can."
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Thats... way too much?
 
JayTee said:
There is a reason for this, and a lot of it relates to her character arc (assuming you go down that path). For now I'll just say that while the gameline of the Chronicles of Darkness assumes that each splat exists in a vacuum, Heroes: Great and Might does not and assumes that the splats are interacting with each other all the time.

With this consideration in mind, I refuse to believe that at one point some higher up at TFV never thought to themselves "Say, why don't we get a few of the good-ish supernaturals types on our side and throw them at the bad supernaturals?"
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I gotcha. I wasn't complaining about a Mage working for TF: V. That makes total sense. I was just warning against trusting a Mage who works for TF: V. Especially a Warlock.
 
[X] "What specifically did you and your organization have in mind by 'help'? I'm not an assassin."
[X] "Everything that you have told me sounds peachy. Is there anyway I could verify what you told me?"
[X] "I am not going to pretend that dressing up like the MiB and protecting the people of boston from supernatural predators doesnt appeal to me..."
-[X] "But I have regular life concerns as well. Keeping maggie safe, holding down a job, ect... What are you planning on giving me for helping you?"
 
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[X] "What specifically did you and your organization have in mind by 'help'? I'm not an assassin."
[X] "Everything that you have told me sounds peachy. Is there anyway I could verify what you told me?"
[X] "I am not going to pretend that dressing up like the MiB and protecting the people of boston from supernatural predators doesnt appeal to me..."
-[X] "But I have regular life concerns as well. Keeping maggie safe, holding down a job, ect... What are you planning on giving me for helping you?"
 
[X] "What specifically did you and your organization have in mind by 'help'? I'm not an assassin."
[X] "Everything that you have told me sounds peachy. Is there anyway I could verify what you told me?"
[X] "I am not going to pretend that dressing up like the MiB and protecting the people of boston from supernatural predators doesnt appeal to me..."
-[X] "But I have regular life concerns as well. Keeping maggie safe, holding down a job, ect... What are you planning on giving me for helping you?"
 
[X] "What specifically did you and your organization have in mind by 'help'? I'm not an assassin."
[X] "Everything that you have told me sounds peachy. Is there anyway I could verify what you told me?"
[X] "I am not going to pretend that dressing up like the MiB and protecting the people of boston from supernatural predators doesnt appeal to me..."
-[X] "But I have regular life concerns as well. Keeping maggie safe, holding down a job, ect... What are you planning on giving me for helping you?"

Something else for you who think joining up is a bad idea; we are ZENITH CASTE SOLAR.

Getting us to join an organisation that suffers from bureaucratic fusterclucks?

Oh, that is adorable. They think they're running the show? Well, as long as they stay true to the mission of taking control of the supernatural scene and protecting the mundanes, they'll have nothing to complain about.
 
[X] "What specifically did you and your organization have in mind by 'help'? I'm not an assassin."
[X] "Everything that you have told me sounds peachy. Is there anyway I could verify what you told me?"
[X] "I am not going to pretend that dressing up like the MiB and protecting the people of boston from supernatural predators doesnt appeal to me..."
-[X] "But I have regular life concerns as well. Keeping maggie safe, holding down a job, ect... What are you planning on giving me for helping you?"
 
[X] Write in: "Managing the supernatural"? Is that what you're doing here? Managing me? Convince me that I can trust you and your Task Force.
-[X] I appreciate the heads up about all the weirdness out there, but I'm not so sure allying with some government group no one knows about is what's best for me. I'm not a civil servant.
--[X] Just because your human or government run doesn't mean your the good guy here I mean just look at MK Ultra. I also need some time to think I mean this is a big deal
---[X] I'm willing to be friendly though anything more than not trying to make things worse will have to wait for me to sort through this
 
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