But the executives insist animation is a dying format. Please ignore the knives they keep sticking in animation's back and anime constantly growing in popularity as they support it less and less.
Harry Potter…Again…From the Beginning…on HBO
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I've always wondered about that view. Disney made itself huge off animated cartoons, after all, and there's certainly a fair bit of demand around for them nowadays. Whether eastern or western produced/styles.
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People in charge grew up when animation was a mix of no-budget Hanna-Barbera schlock and literal toy commercials.
The idea that animation can be more, has become more, does not occur to them, and as they are too wealthy and egotistical to learn anything, they insist nobody but idiot children can possibly care about it and think turning animated works and things best suited to animation into live action makes them more Real and Superior and Evolved because they're no longer in the Idiotic Small Children medium.
Maybe if we told them that an animated show could be made cheaper than a live-action one, that would do the trick? Considering how insanely bloated a lot of tv show budgets have been lately, I'm sure at least one greedy muddy-grubbing capitalist could be convinced that animation is the more practical option for their pockets if nothing else.
You assume that these are reasonable individuals who will make logical decisions based on actual data.
Unfortunately a lot of the stupid ones making these decisions are so up their own asses that reality need not apply when their biases are seemingly confirmed by the results of their own actions motivated by that bias and spite for anyone who disagrees. For example, movies would be cheaper and sell better if they kept the writers on hand the entire production to make sure it works throughout, but they would rather hire them at the start, drop them when they have a script, and then film and edit three movies worth of scenes then complain when no one wants to see it because the scenes aren't stitched together well enough to make a good movie, leading to a massive loss in budget, and when the writers tried to protest this on these and more points they wanted to replace them with AI since you don't need to pay a program, even if the result is shit.
The people running a lot of "struggling" industries like that have little to no experience in those fields and are managing them as investments to cut up and sell off for tax write offs whenever they want to give themselves a raise while trying to avoid paying most of the employees enough for them to actually consume what they produce to make the bottom line look good for the next quarter.
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there's still a prevailing attitude that animation is too niche. you can have animated side projects to round out your selection of content but it can't be the flagship of a major franchise
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Sky Sues Warner Bros. Over Refusal to Partner on ‘Harry Potter’ TV Series
Sky accuses Warner Bros. of backing out of its partnership agreement as it seeks to roll out its Max streaming service in Europe.
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I can live in hope that WB gets enough of a headache that they scrap this thing.
A fool's hope obviously
A fool's hope obviously
I'm wondering if they will wait until they have ruined the lives of the kids who are supposed to be the main characters then cut it off for a tax break, then make a reality show out of their suffering for cheap drama in the name of easy money.
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HBO Says ‘Harry Potter’ Series Will ‘Benefit’ From J.K. Rowling’s Involvement: She ‘Has the Right to Express Her Personal Views’
HBO supports J.K. Rowling's involvement with the new "Harry Potter" show as the core fanbase grapples with Rowling’s controversial views on trans identity.
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Well... the time when big media companies pandered the progressive audience was nice while it lasted.HBO Says ‘Harry Potter’ Series Will ‘Benefit’ From J.K. Rowling’s Involvement: She ‘Has the Right to Express Her Personal Views’
HBO supports J.K. Rowling's involvement with the new "Harry Potter" show as the core fanbase grapples with Rowling’s controversial views on trans identity.
I forsee a lot of this in the wake of another Trump term. Companies slowly backing away from commitments to diversity or equality in favour of letting people do what they want.
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So as we knew already basically. Rowling's historically controlling attention on her creative rights remains as is, to no great surprise.HBO Says ‘Harry Potter’ Series Will ‘Benefit’ From J.K. Rowling’s Involvement: She ‘Has the Right to Express Her Personal Views’
HBO supports J.K. Rowling's involvement with the new "Harry Potter" show as the core fanbase grapples with Rowling’s controversial views on trans identity.
The weird fantasising by her about expecting people to be asking her for apologies is also remaining rather cringe.
I think they're trying to have their cake and eat it, much like with the Hogwarts game. rainbow diversity capitalism full steam ahead... just possibly without specifically trans diversity on this occasion. They were very exact in their wording about her "being entitled to her own views", so it seems clear they want to neither publicly approve of, nor publicly argue with the rights-owning walking problem. So of course they're going to please nobody in trying to appease everybody.
We are entering unprecedented levels of radical centrism.
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As I understand, aside from being run by a Trump Donor, WBD is especially eager among the media conglomerates to kiss up to Trump in order to secure the merger/buyout that will dig them out of 40 billion in debt.
I have great sympathy for the child actors that are going to have their lives destroyed by this no matter what, because I'm going to guess that at least Hermione is going to be where the studio starts performative laundering; but any adults who should no better deserve nothing but scorn if they sign on to this
I have great sympathy for the child actors that are going to have their lives destroyed by this no matter what, because I'm going to guess that at least Hermione is going to be where the studio starts performative laundering; but any adults who should no better deserve nothing but scorn if they sign on to this
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WB has been like that for a while, and it's been very two-faced in that regard - you see it all the time with DC who they own which is much more progressive-aimed. I expect them to largely continue talking out of both sides of their face, especially since Rowling, who holds the juicy HP financial keys, hates Trump.
Grab your popcorn.
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Eh, I dont want to doom post but I think this is part of a larger picture. In the last few weeks:
-Numerous liberal celebrities have back peddled on what they said during the election.
-Disney removed a episode of a cartoon from Disney plus because it had a prominent trans character
-ridley Scott deleted scenes from gladiator 2 that had a Palestinian actor in them
-Sebastian Stan has left on read by various media groups after he portrayed Donald Trump in the apprentice.
It really feels like there is a effort by media companies to play it safe and "uncontoversial" regarding the new administration which kinda inevitably means throwing minorities under the bus.
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I guess we'll see if that extends to stuff like Superman suddenly siding with the klan. The tricky thing for WB is they've got multiple IPs which have built their brand on some form of trying to appeal to various progressive interests (which of course made the Rowling TERF unmasking super awkward for them already). So I'd expect the exact borders of which forms of rainbow capitalism are in vogue to change, as we're seeing, but they're still likely to try and vy for the forms that they feel are okay... while simultaneously trying to pacify the general rightward shift.
I don't expect they'll be terribly adept at it.
On the broad scale I'd say you're right so far as the wider media landsape, but when it comes to specifics where various IPs have tied their wagon to stuff, the results are likely to be... interesting.
There's a number of differing calculus for the media conglomerates than in 2016, but i'd say the fact that he's outright threatened fucking with broadcast rights as retaliation for negative coverage (Comcast is apparently sprinting to put a measure of distance between themselves and MSNBC) is arguably as much an immediate cause as more consolidation or more allied/cowed billionaire owners.
I'm sure Rowling's due a "wait a minute... these leopards are eating faces, myfasces face!" moment from the crowd she jumped into feet first and eyes open sooner or later; but the amount of lives that will be destroyed by that point in no small part due to her contribution to toxicity that's pickled the young people's brains removes even the slightest iota of schadenfreude that might be enjoyed when it occurs.
I'm sure Rowling's due a "wait a minute... these leopards are eating faces, my
He won't need to side with the klan, though you might get him side with the IDF, who are worse than the klan these days.
He'll just never acknowledge lgbt people again. Jimmy will be white again. Et cetera et cetera
Even if it was hollow and condescending how they expected applause for their "first gay character" every year or so.
Which does explain part of why things in it have been getting cut before release.
Damnit, which one?
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Mentioned in a different thread.